drifting / grip racing techniques

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Swift
I have to go with Ryen on this one. Don't try to just jump into something you see in the games. LFB is VERY difficult! I I know it doesn't seem that way. But it is. Your left foot isn't used to that type of motion going down. Only coming up(releasing the clutch) So as Ryen said, it will really scare most people.

Just be careful not to try to emulate arcades IRL. It can be very dangerous. :scared:

I don't want to sound like someone jumping on the bandwaggon but both Ryen and Swift are right about that most definetly. I'm not too certain about a Pontantic Gran Prix, even if it is FF, I doubt it's comparable in some sense to an EG-6 or EK-6 besides many differences, one of them is that as far as I know, the Grand Prix has an automatic only, cars like the Civic or Integra, PT cruser etc have manual, and other things I feel I need not mention much like weight, suspenion settings, the engine in question, etc.

Maybe its me, but even for a vidoegame, to use LFB the RIGHT way is difficult, least how I drive in GT (a reason for why I'm probally at a skill level I am, drifting or racing is I often drive like it's REAL LIFE with NO RESET button...so I don't always go off and try something like that off the bat unless I know just what I'm doing...), least in the right sense if you're pushing your car as hard as possible and you want to stay on the ideal line without going acorss grass or into a wall.

It's used for critical and sensitive control at the limit, emphais on critical and sensitive, LFB is to aid cornering, but just by a bare margin, you still have to take the ideal corner for a line usually and you can't rely on something like LFB to do it, and I would not be suprised if someone would be scared.

Well, I wish I could say more but it's been said, sorry if I didn't make the most sense...
untill later...
 
Swift
I have to go with Ryen on this one. Don't try to just jump into something you see in the games. LFB is VERY difficult! I I know it doesn't seem that way. But it is. Your left foot isn't used to that type of motion going down. Only coming up(releasing the clutch) So as Ryen said, it will really scare most people.

Just be careful not to try to emulate arcades IRL. It can be very dangerous. :scared:

he E-brake drifts his moms camary on the public streets.... so ryden no im not being a idiot u moron, before youc all anyone names get the full facts on the matter if you got a problem with me ryden dont try and make it liek your soo smart and call me names aight? if you don't like what i gotta say don't post...or read for a matter fact...thank you, ummm swift i dunno how well he is but he wants to try it but we try it on simulators
 
R_Riders
I don't want to sound like someone jumping on the bandwaggon but both Ryen and Swift are right about that most definetly. I'm not too certain about a Pontantic Gran Prix, even if it is FF, I doubt it's comparable in some sense to an EG-6 or EK-6 besides many differences, one of them is that as far as I know, the Grand Prix has an automatic only, cars like the Civic or Integra, PT cruser etc have manual, and other things I feel I need not mention much like weight, suspenion settings, the engine in question, etc.

Maybe its me, but even for a vidoegame, to use LFB the RIGHT way is difficult, least how I drive in GT (a reason for why I'm probally at a skill level I am, drifting or racing is I often drive like it's REAL LIFE with NO RESET button...so I don't always go off and try something like that off the bat unless I know just what I'm doing...), least in the right sense if you're pushing your car as hard as possible and you want to stay on the ideal line without going acorss grass or into a wall.

It's used for critical and sensitive control at the limit, emphais on critical and sensitive, LFB is to aid cornering, but just by a bare margin, you still have to take the ideal corner for a line usually and you can't rely on something like LFB to do it, and I would not be suprised if someone would be scared.

Well, I wish I could say more but it's been said, sorry if I didn't make the most sense...
untill later...

the guy is a grip driver...does brake drifts at likr 50-68 mph on public streets...with me and my bro in the car lol actually pretty fun...
 
Long-Drifter
the guy is a grip driver...does brake drifts...

Either he does grip or he does drift. Which is it?

Long-Drifter
at likr 50-68 mph on public streets...with me and my bro in the car...he E-brake drifts his moms camary on the public streets....

Think about those parts in bold for a second. If your friend had a shred of common sense, he wouldn't be doing that. Especially with you and your brother in the car. I hope you guys don't live in my area. I'll have to keep an eye on all the Camrys I run into from now on. I don't want to get hit by one doing a handbrake drift. :scared:

Seriously, at a car meet in my area a couple months ago, there was some idiot in a 240SX hatch doing doughnuts in the parking lot. :dunce: He was holding his hand out the window like he was in an Option video or something. Sounds fun, right?(stupid, imho) No. Next thing you know, he loses control and smacks a parked car. Apparently the kid got scared and ran, but someone got his plate on a digicam first. I bet he learned his lesson by now.
 
Long-Drifter
he E-brake drifts his moms camary on the public streets.... so ryden no im not being a idiot u moron, before youc all anyone names get the full facts on the matter if you got a problem with me ryden dont try and make it liek your soo smart and call me names aight? if you don't like what i gotta say don't post...or read for a matter fact...thank you, ummm swift i dunno how well he is but he wants to try it but we try it on simulators

Well FF cars don't drift they slide. And Vquick is right. Why would you do that in a camry. Especially when it's not even his. It's his mom's. If something happens, well that wouldn't be good.

I don't know bud. It just sounds to me that you and your friends do a lot of stuff that is extremely dangerous on public streets. God invented the track and driving schools for a reason! :)
 
Swift
Well FF cars don't drift they slide. And Vquick is right. Why would you do that in a camry. Especially when it's not even his. It's his mom's. If something happens, well that wouldn't be good.

I don't know bud. It just sounds to me that you and your friends do a lot of stuff that is extremely dangerous on public streets. God invented the track and driving schools for a reason! :)

Oh yes, yes he did.

Swift is right, some things are best meant for the track, I would not try half of what I would want to try once i get a handle on driving on the street but on a track, or at the least a wide empty parking lot (the kind that lacks any lamp posts...least for a certain distance anyway)...

V quick also has a point, don't pratice something like that unless you're in a controlled enviroment with as much reduced chance of accidental damange as humanly possible. Games or reality, it takes a damn long time to get used to certian things before one with sense would even THINK about trying them on the street or any place with a variable factor of accidental damage on any scale.

Even in an Anime like Initial D, it seams on one end cool nearly all if not all the races take place at night, but also common sense becuase it's so late at night (10pm if not earlier or later) theres a far less chance of traffic. Also, most of those races in there, they made certain there were no oncomming cars or any accidental chance of anyone getting run down similar to how they plan WRC races.

But regarldess if it's profesional or street based, it still can't completey elimate the chances of an oncomming car, prime examples were epiosodes 14 and 19 of stage 1, in 14, Shingo and Takumi BARELY got by a 180 that could have gotten either of them out of the race by any degree of damage, and it's a freaking mirracle Mako and Takumi squeezed by that 13, only barely besides how both coenred well themsleves, that S13 driver nudged just enough to get by (of cosure I also know that it's an anime/manga thus those very close calls could have also been made so just to add suspense and to drive a point home too...but you can also look at it in another way too) barely.

I've seen close calls of a similar nature in RL but there have been incidents where there have been wrecks, trust me, if it happens in video games, it will happen in RL and vice versa. I consider you and your friends lucky so far, I'd suggest stoping now or at least going to a nearby track, even an oval or an figure 8 and try some pratice there, but don't go Shingo Souji on there, just take it slow and try to always keep in mind the limits of your car (should I mention also how you would probally be better off with an EK-9 or even an EG-6, an Integra maybe, or just find a cheap 240...I mean... a Camary...?...that was not meant for the kind of driving you may have in mind but I think you already know that but chose to regard it a bit...)...

So the point is, stay OFF the street and try to go for a track, I'm very certain if not absolutey it's worth it.

Besides that, well... the other thing I may need to get you at about is presentation with how you say some things. M I mean... how can you say "the guy is a grip driver...does brake drifts..."... grip and drift are differnt, not so different but for me it's common sense. A proper dirft is usually when a driver tries to break traction right at or just before the start of a turn and tries to get his car as sideways as possible in that same instance and try to decrease thatn angle on the exit unless you want to keep the skiding going for another turn.

Grip driving is when you try to avoid any skiding as much as possible, usually with the rule, which applies to higher up cars such as GT, Prototypes and F1 that any oversteering, espcially on the exit leads to a spinout, you basilcy want your car to avoid any excessive wheel spin, regardless of it's drivetrain at all times when driving hard.

That's all I have to say to that for now...till later...
 
R_Riders
That's all I have to say to that for now...till later...

Are you sure it was enough! :) Just messin man.

I agree with what you said. 👍
 
Ryen49
you gonna try something in a real car that you learned from a arcade game?
OMG. Just so you know LFB scares the crap out of alot of drivers who end up never trying it again. But you are just being an idiot. Something you learned from the arcade. OMG. 👎
i agree with ryen
 
R_Ryder, You are the coolest newb i have ever known... (no sarcasm either) You have provided facts that thoroughly back your point. Long-Drifter you should act more like R_Ryders... And Ryen49 I think Long was talking about R_ryders?
 
MdnIte
R_Ryder, You are the coolest newb i have ever known... (no sarcasm either) You have provided facts that thoroughly back your point. Long-Drifter you should act more like R_Ryders... And Ryen49 I think Long was talking about R_ryders?

Yep, I agree with my Australian friend here. R Ryders is cool and mature...a rare find in most newbs!
 
MdnIte
R_Ryder, You are the coolest newb i have ever known... (no sarcasm either) You have provided facts that thoroughly back your point. Long-Drifter you should act more like R_Ryders... And Ryen49 I think Long was talking about R_ryders?


yead, R_Ryder does have the facts to back up his every comment which does help me out actually.... ummm still got a question tho, lol cause im alittle confused, ya'll sayin he should do it on a clsoed coruse right? no public streets...and a Grand prix is not the best to try LFB in?
 
A closed course as in " A controlled environment, where, in the case of an accident, it can be anticipated and the damage minimized..."
 
Long-Drifter
yead, R_Ryder does have the facts to back up his every comment which does help me out actually.... ummm still got a question tho, lol cause im alittle confused, ya'll sayin he should do it on a clsoed coruse right? no public streets...and a Grand prix is not the best to try LFB in?


The Grand Prix is fine to LFB with. But you have to understand how to apply the technique. I know a driving instructor that uses LFB in his wife's minivan. So the car is not the issue, but how the technique is applied(just like drifting in GT3 :sly: )
 
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Swift
The Grand Prix is fine to LFB with. But you have to understand how to apply the technique. I know a driving instructor that uses LFB in his wife's minivan. So the car is not the issue, but how the technique is applied(just like drifting in GT3 :sly: )

o0o ok, thats true, guess on the way a person does it...
 
We finally reached an agreement! (sorry I didn't read all the in between posts...)
 
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