If there's one behavior in the handling that puzzles me and makes it unnecessarily tricky it's how any car on tarmac, if you go barely wide and some of the outer tires go off on the dirt,
And you barely turn in the steering to bring it back on the road,
Whether you throttle it slightly, let it just coast, no throttle, or lift, or brake slightly,
The car will snap overteer back on tarmac,
Even if you managed to get it back fully on tarmac, without starting to oversteer,
if you keep the steering slightly turned in, and are going at a minimum speed, like let's say 30mph or more maybe,
It will automatically do it.
Even with any set-up, i think.
Toe-in, camber out, diff more open, closed, arb softer, softer suspension, etc..
4wd, rwd, any car old or newer.
Seems a game physics rotation matter.
I can understand that the bumps on dirt can destabilize, and maybe dirty tires, not sure if the game accounts for dirt on tires though when on tarmac,
But even then, it seems exaggerated at least, idk, seems the car should mostly tend to go wide more when you have the 2 outer tires off wide a little.. unless you lift off throttle or brake slightly, making the rear lighter.
I like the challenge of tarmac in it, and i can enjoy any car on it, just find this exaggerated when you don't lift off, isn't it?
And i could understand if it's a relatively high g corner, with weight put more on the outer wheels, but when it's almost straight, and at not so high speed, or a slight correction only, idk.
Better hug the inside of the middle inner apex of a curve for sure instead, and if go out , just slow down and keep it straight, until at very low speed i guess, and then try turn in back to the road.
Unless you manage to counter steer in time, it's feasible,,just it catches you off-guard often.
Anyhow, idk, in cockpit pov, it can more easily happen to touch the outside.
Easier in any other pov.
I even tested it now at low 30kph, just going off tarmac on purpose, then turn back onto the road, even just giving low throttle to not affect the balance, if you keep the wheel turned in, the car will snap oversteer.
Really not normal at 20mph, or even if was higher speed. I don't see any reason except a problem with the handling.
You could say don't keep turning but this affects it as much when you just go a bit wide and you turn it back on the road, as soon as it goes back on tarmac, it will spin around.
Apart from that im liking the tarmac, I've tried some 2017-21 r1,r2,r3, having fun, especially on wet, fun to slide them.
Just a shame this spin, occurs whatever car or setup, and input you do on throttle, brake.
Also, i noticed the new clio r3 has better sound for off throttle, it's more distinctive, and you hear the revs go up more dynamically, and feel the engine braking more a little, good sound inside too. Fun car too.
One thing i can maybe get how it happens is, the front going back on tarmac 1st, maybe grips more than the back for a second, and makes it spin the back to the front.
Idk, happens it seems even when all 4 tires are back on tarmac too.
