Ethical car tuning

[rocko100]

Me and my friend constantly argue about tuning cars and recently he fully tuned his jaguar xj13 to the max. He claims he's tuning it to the best of it's ability but I believe he's ruining it what do you think

 

[Paul2448]

For premium, I never like to upgrade rare cars to something that can't be undone.

Turbos, tires, and tuning chips are OK, but not weight reduction and engine tuning that can't be done.

However, for standard cars, I think tuning them to the max is OK, mainly because most people don't but them to enjoy the drive, but to win races, and only to win races.

 

[Skitch2310]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=211997&page=4

 

[rocko100]

For the most part

 

[heinz57]

Personally, I do think he's ruining it since it's a 20 mil car. But to each their own. I wouldn't call it "unethical" though.

 

[BryCivicSi]

If he gets better lap times with the tune, why not? This is racing. In racing, your motive is always to achieve the best lap time.
Maybe you are more of a purist and like the cars the way they are IRL which is fine. But my opinion, this isn't real life and I really doubt I could handle a car IRL like I do in GT5. It is a video game after all.

 

[HaylRayzor]

Yeah, not "unethical" but that car deserves to be appreciated as it was made.

 

[dice1998]

One tunes a car to get the ultimate performance out of it.

You can just bolt on upgrades (this includes real life also) but to get the maximum potential out of each part (for example, a turbo, ecu and fuel injectors), you're going to have to tune it.

As for suspension and whatnot, you'd have to tune to adapt to each track (in real life, at least) to get the best performance out of your car.

Many, if not all racing subsections do it (Formula 1, NASCAR, Continental GT, BTCC, WRC, etc.)



As far as GT5 goes, I tune SOME of my cars if needed (for example, the TVR Cerbera Speed 12).

If I feel the car handles perfectly, then i won't tune it.

 

[BryCivicSi]

My solution is own two. I have one that is 0/0 collecting dust and other fully modded and tuned and painted a metallic pink.

 

[HippieGiraffe]

My solution is own two. I have one that is 0/0 collecting dust and other fully modded and tuned and painted a metallic pink.

I've pretty much relegated myself to this way of thinking too. I have quite a few doubles, some having miles the others not.

Considering how easy it has been over the last month or so to grab some 0/0 rides, both by trade and buying through the OCD, its getting quite fun (addicting). Eventually I'll probably only have only the dozen or two cars I really admire to tune/upgrade/race... the rest will be sent to a "collection" and/or traded about.

 

[dylansan]

I don't think it's ever necessary to tune a slow car to make it faster. If you want a faster car, buy, win, or trade for a faster car, rather than modifying one that's fine the way it is. I find that the point of playing GT is to be able to drive cars you wish you could in real life. If you modify them all to the point that they're all just generic fully tuned Blah Blahs, you're missing out on some of the gems.

 

[rocko100]

I understand the two thing but this is a twenty million car

 

[BryCivicSi]

I understand the two thing but this is a twenty million car

I have a pair of 2Js and 330 P3s too. Plenty of other multiples of high priced cars. I honestly have so much $, I don't know what to do. If I could give it away I would. Already own every car so I just buy more and more duplicates. It is so easy to make money now. I could barely get by when GT5 came out.

 

[Corpsey]

The way I see it, if you earn it you can do whatever you want to it. I am only saying better because of that, and the fact that I don't trust PD's setups most of the time. Mine is unchanged if you care, but I do plan on getting another one eventually.

 

[1241Penguin]

I generally keep race cars stock.

 

[vk56dehan]

i have every high dollar premium...my rule for myself is to not change the exterior appearance at all (even though you cant on most). as far as performace...i tune the crap out of it, and i rack the miles up. if it were in my real garage, thats a different story. the is a racing game, and im making " it " a better race car. i dont just throw parts at it and call it a day. i spend hours (depending on the car) tuning it to the best of its ability. the p4 was tuned w/n regulation of the le mans/ daytona series. my is tuned w/n regulation of gt5

speaking of not changing the exteriors...for example ferrari. i dont mess with them too much. but i do like the black on black look and would love to have a black on black ferrari. but, i wouldnt dare change the factory ferrari rims out for some no name black rims. they should have some stock replacement options for high dollar cars. or be able to paint stock rims and keep the emblems. as ferrari does have rim options upon new purchase.

 

[NjLowrider]

I spend most of my time either modifying my 4 real life cars or my 1300 gt5 cars..

Cars are meant to be modified and personalized.

Any car..

 

[AlphaAndius]

My dearest ladies and gentlemen, it is the context that dictates wether the act of tuning a car is an aberration or a legitimate permissibility;

- If a race demands cars in true stock form (no modified parts, no tuned parts) then the act of tuning is an abomination and impurity! At best, I would tolerate the tuning of the gear ratios in the case of cars that have their stock speed limits set abysmally low (As is the case for the Dodge Challanger R/T '70, 180km for a 433hp for general purpose racing??? Pleeasee). Anyone who presents a tuned car in a true stock car race, is a cheating scumbag that deserves to be neckpunched.

- If a race allows allows for a total freedom of tuning, then by all means it cannot be condemnable in that context.

- If a race allows for limited amount of tuning, then one cannot condemn the person that stays within the parameters of the tuning regulations.


Why argue the inarguable in the matters of wether to tune a racing car or not? The ethic of when to tune a car or not tune a car, has to be in function to the higher racing ethic of good old fashion "follow the freakin rules!".

 

[Sohvakettu]

Most cars allow atleast adjustable alignment stock out of factory in real life (camber/toe) and sometimes limited height adjutsment too. GT5 is the one in the wrong here

 

[vk56dehan]

My dearest ladies and gentlemen, it is the context that dictates wether the act of tuning a car is an aberration or a legitimate permissibility;

- If a race demands cars in true stock form (no modified parts, no tuned parts) then the act of tuning is an abomination and impurity! At best, I would tolerate the tuning of the gear ratios in the case of cars that have their stock speed limits set abysmally low (As is the case for the Dodge Challanger R/T '70, 180km for a 433hp for general purpose racing??? Pleeasee). Anyone who presents a tuned car in a true stock car race, is a cheating scumbag that deserves to be neckpunched.

- If a race allows allows for a total freedom of tuning, then by all means it cannot be condemnable in that context.

- If a race allows for limited amount of tuning, then one cannot condemn the person that stays within the parameters of the tuning regulations.


Why argue the inarguable in the matters of wether to tune a racing car or not? The ethic of when to tune a car or not tune a car, has to be in function to the higher racing ethic of good old fashion "follow the freakin rules!".

i like this. in shorter version, dont cheat yourself out of good gameplay right?
but it is ok in your opinion to tune according to the race...

 

[deadcat777]

For premium, I never like to upgrade rare cars to something that can't be undone.

Turbos, tires, and tuning chips are OK, but not weight reduction and engine tuning that can't be done.

However, for standard cars, I think tuning them to the max is OK, mainly because most people don't but them to enjoy the drive, but to win races, and only to win races.

You can buy a couple of them.

 

[deadcat777]

I have a pair of 2Js and 330 P3s too. Plenty of other multiples of high priced cars. I honestly have so much $, I don't know what to do. If I could give it away I would. Already own every car so I just buy more and more duplicates. It is so easy to make money now. I could barely get by when GT5 came out.

Can i have one of the 330 P3?

 

[XPLOSV]

Its obviously a question of weather your a purist or not, and where your interests are.

I personally never tune any race cars (as I like to drive them true to their form). I also dont tune any cars I consider to be significant (F40, MacF1, GT40-original etc).

I guess I also mimic cars in real life. For instance, my Caterham fireblade has added weight, and power to mimic the R500.

So I dont conform to a single rule of tune or not tune. Just where my interests are. I've grown up with modified japanese cars that are highly tuned, so will dune a GTR to max power. But also love a sweet chassis, so only have mildly tuned my nsx (which is incredibly nice to drive).

But yes, your friend is a douche for tuning a classic like the XJR13.

 

[AlphaAndius]

Most cars allow atleast adjustable alignment stock out of factory in real life (camber/toe) and sometimes limited height adjutsment too. GT5 is the one in the wrong here

Mmhhh, that is true, such tunings would still be stock by my reckoning, unless a strict, no touchee the tuny, rules was instituted.

i like this. in shorter version, dont cheat yourself out of good gameplay right?
but it is ok in your opinion to tune according to the race...

Of course! When those of us who wish a good and competitive race, no honor is to be gained in cheating.

Mmmhh, by my reckoning, it is perfectly legit to tune according to the race, if the rules permit it so. However, I have raced in my fair share of races where we just race with "factory settings" cars. Tis a lot of fun to test out the versatility of a tuned settings.

 

[KingSakery]

Drive the Car bone Stock
=> you will see/feel where it can improve
=> buy some non-power/weight-changing parts (Suspension etc)
=> drive it again and feel the difference

Well tuning a Race-Car is a bit strange. But mostly you just add a Turbo and that´s it (which is removeable).

I didn´t vote because I think both is acceptable. If someone admires Cars he will clearly not tune a Race-Car or Road-Car.
But if your a "Gamer" than you´ll maxx out the Cars potential.

 

[OK8]

There are cars you can tune and it's perfectly alright and then there are supercars which you'd think were already as good as they can be so I don't like tuning them.

 

[Exorcet]

Your poll is incomplete. There is no way to ruin a car in GT5, but tuning doesn't make a car a "better".

supercars which you'd think were already as good as they can be

Not even close. They aren't even race cars.

If someone admires Cars he will clearly not tune a Race-Car or Road-Car.

Why not? I admire the Viper and I have bucket loads of tuned versions.

 

[iamjajo]

To each his own.

One of the best things about GT5 is the option to do what you want, and if he is happy with the result then that's all that matters.

I take another route and I'm happy too. There's no reason why either approach to tuning and setup should be judged good or bad.

As for the value of the car...well, its just credits and they aren't that hard to get.

 

[STI9]

I haven't tuned any of the 20 mil cars or the muira. I dont care about some other cars and I tune the hell out of them, especially standard cars because they have no soul.

 

[Stevisiov]

I like to have 3 of every car, 1 completely stock, 1 lightly tuned and 1 fully tuned.

Some cars are better left stock, some cars come alive after a bit of tweaking, and some cars are a blast after they have reached their full potential. There is no definite answer as to what degree of tuning is best.