F.I.T.T WSR/Senna F3 Challenge

Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by Pete05, Aug 31, 2015.

  1. coryclifford

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    Pretty fast there, Petey. Nice lap.
     
  2. shaunm80

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    Thanks for the review. Sounds like there is a lot of speed in this tune if a perfect lap was achieved. Glad you enjoyed the ride so much and could push through the quick corners as much as you could. You did an amazing time in my tune too so well done :)
     
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  3. Pete05

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    Thanks guys :cheers: Great cars on a great track = a whole lot of fun.
     
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  4. DolHaus

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    Thank you for testing and for the review, I'm glad you enjoyed the car :cheers: Bit of a dark horse Pete, never realised you were of the extraterrestrial variety :lol:
     
  5. Motor City Hami

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    You did that time with a DS3 using x and square? I was going to ask you to do some online racing after this competition was over. Maybe second thinking that decision.

    Hey, if we do another race series where we pair up, I call @Pete05 as teammate!

    And thanks for the test drive and awesome time.
     
  6. Otaliema

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    Great reviews. :wow: to the times.
    1:22 :boggled: do you have tires left?
    Thank you for all the work you have put into this event. You're doing a great job your first time out :tup:
     
  7. Motor City Hami

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    Just for fun:

    This is the average tune, combining all of the knowledge from all eleven FITT tuners.
    Google sheet comparisons: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E6f1NKEzsb9pbqC2TSzKZLA9y2QA-1PXPAbwJdV6AFA/edit?usp=sharing

    SUSPENSION:
    RIDE HEIGHT - 40/40
    SPRINGS - 16.51/21.68
    COMP - 4/4
    EXT - 5/5
    ARB - 4/4
    CAMBER - 0.7/0.9
    TOE - -0.17/0.20
    BRAKES - 5/5
    LSD: Full Custom
    INITIAL - 9
    ACCEL - 19
    DECEL - 13
    DOWNFORCE - 708/875


    And this is an average of the current top five in the competition (@Bowtie-muscle @DolHaus @Motor City Hami @Otaliema and @Pete05). This tune should handle best of all by taking the best from the best. Anyone want to test it?

    SUSPENSION:
    RIDE HEIGHT - 40/40
    SPRINGS - 16.32/21.98
    COMP - 3/4
    EXT - 6/5
    ARB - 4/4
    CAMBER - 0.2/0.2
    TOE - -0.08/0.16
    BRAKES - 5/6
    LSD: Full Custom
    INITIAL - 9
    ACCEL - 18
    DECEL - 15
    DOWNFORCE - 744/911

    I should also work up an averaged transmission, but the only way to do it would be to convert each gearbox to individual gear times the final drive, then reverse engineer it in the game.

    Thoughts?
     
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  8. coryclifford

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    I will!
     
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  9. Bowtie-muscle

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    Thanks for the review, and for hosting this great event. Feedback always appreciated.
     
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  10. OdeFinn

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    Exactly.
    Gear:final to all gears on same line and average of then outer gear and all finals.. What would that look after counting back to average final those individual gears :)
     
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  11. Otaliema

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    Sounds like a challenge. I accept.
     
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  12. OdeFinn

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    Slowly copy pasting with tablet.. :)

    1.358641378
    0.91910881
    0.703410516
    0.558162386
    0.460422376

    2.83

    First five.. Now reversing..

    3.8449551
    2.601077932
    1.990651761
    1.579599551
    1.302995324

    Final 2.83
     
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  13. coryclifford

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    This car is not good in my hands. Didn't take me but a few laps to do a 1:23.791 but when I push harder it just falls apart. Won't turn in and then pushes a bit, grabs, then spins. No matter the corner. I've spun on all of them. I used a stock transmission. No thanks.

    Edit: Second lap back in my car for an easy 23.501
     
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  14. Otaliema

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    My numbers vary slightly.

    Average Gear box
    Initial Final Gear 3.504
    Top Speed 127.8(127 mph)
    1st 3.845
    2nd 2.601
    3rd 1.991
    4th 1.580
    5th 1.303
    Final 2.830

    Google Sheet

    *please note I've never done this so I don' know if the Initial final and top speed will allow for the gears displayed below you may need to adjust the top speed to reach the numbers listed*
     
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  15. OdeFinn

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    Bout rounding, nothing else.
     
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  16. Otaliema

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    good point. :odd: I must be hungry I didn't read your numbers right.
    or there is blood in my caffeine and nicotine sream
     
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    I'm kinda purist and would try same ratios on different final, identical box on 2.172 Final, just for fun..
    2.950969073
    1.996304335
    1.527807641
    1.212328701
    1.000037401
    F2.172
     
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  18. xande1959

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    Thank you so much . the transmission was a problem, I could have spent more time on it and LSD, now I have no time. .
     
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  19. DolHaus

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    Maybe if you took the suspension from one, diff from another, different trans etc. you might be able to build a good car but averages isn't going to provide the solution.
     
  20. xande1959

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    as I told (HAMI) without current time, but transmission left to be desired. Thank you so much
     
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  21. Otaliema

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    Normally it works fairly well. @shaunm80 and I use it when building our combo cars. He builds one way I build another we combine them via average and then make final tweaks but a lot of times the average numbers are pretty close to the final product if not final for most items.
     
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  22. DolHaus

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    Too many sources and a stock car throwing off things like the alignment, if you took the cars that did the best individual sectors and then averaged it then it could perhaps work.
     
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  23. Otaliema

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    I think you would still have @Pete05 car in the mix even with that.
    Based on what @coryclifford said the back is too stiff, drop the rear compression damper by 2 and that would prolly solve the issue.
     
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  24. DolHaus

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    I see all sorts of conflicting settings that are causing the issues, the settings are sliders to a degree but they are all connected and need to be manipulated together in order to compliment each other. A problem at the back of the car is partially caused by a problem with the front of the car, a problem with turn in can be caused by a problem with the diff that is as a result of a problem with the transmission* and so on, everything is connected. Its like throwing all your favourite foods in a blender and expecting the outcome to be better

    *hypothetical situations, not the car itself
     
  25. coryclifford

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    Back is too stiff, indeed. Tad too much differential also.

    Makes me want to blend a steak, chicken and shrimp with a bunch of beer for a nice drink. :crazy:
     
  26. Otaliema

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    I don't think that would work too well...
     
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  27. coryclifford

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    Do I use A-1 or cocktail sauce?

    I laughed.
     
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  28. Pete05

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    Not a problem :) Now, take me to your leader :p
    Yes, X and square & my thumbs hate me for it :( Thanks for the offer of online racing & teaming up. I'd chew my toes off for the chance but my PS3 isn't online :grumpy:

    I've got some very compromising pics of the local tyre dealer so tyre wear isn't an issue :p It's been an eye-opener & I couldn't have done it without you sharing your wisdom & experience. You're work on the google sheets & walking me through posting correctly has been invaluable :bowdown: :cheers:

    It's been a pleasure & really well supported by you all :) :tup:

    When you get the chance, try your settings with my gear ratios. I'm sure you'll go faster :) :tup:
     
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  29. Otaliema

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    Must be handy :lol:
    Not a problem sir.

    A-1
     
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  30. Otaliema

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    Updated rankings with @Pete05 times loaded in.
    BrandsHatch 80's GP Lap Time
    1 Motor City Hami 1:24.209 +00.000
    2 DolHaus 1:24.556 +0.347
    3 Pete05 1:24.614 +0.405
    4 Otaliema 1:24.639 +0.430
    5 Bowtie-muscle 1:24.877 +0.667

    BrandsHatch 80's GP DC Score
    1 DolHaus 9.46
    2 shaunm80 9.38
    3 Bowtie-muscle 9.34
    4 Otaliema 9.28
    5 MrGrado 9.26

    WSR BrandsHatch 80's GP
    1:22.882; Motor City Hami's tune Driven By Pete05
    Most Consistent OdeFinn 1.217
    Fastest Average Pete05 84.107

    @Bowtie-muscle @DolHaus @fordracer @Motor City Hami @MrGrado @Otaliema @Pete05 @Ridox2JZGTE @shaunm80
    @sinof1337 @xande1959