F.I.T.T WSR/Senna F3 Challenge

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  1. xande1959

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    [​IMG] finishing the last adjustments fastest lap 1: 25.353
    I hope to correspond with testers:cheers::tup:
     
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  3. shaunm80

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    How is everyones tuning going for this car? I have just managed to improve my tune by over a second and it is in my preferred style of driving too. This car is great fun to drive but I must say that tuning this car is tricky. You think you can improve it but it often makes it harder to drive and keep pointing in the right direction. Going to be interesting seeing the other tunes for this when tuning ends.
     
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  4. xande1959

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    I agree with you .
     
  5. DolHaus

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    Most of the car is done, just need to put a transmission on it and see what that adds. I found the car was always all or nothing, it doesn't care for mistakes or half heartedness and I like it :mischievous:
     
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    Well done Shaun. To find over a second & be happy with the change means you've unlocked some decent speed there.
    At this stage, I feel if I can gain a tenth or two without wrecking it that'll be a huge bonus.
    Sounds like my car in a way. It doesn't care for mistakes either. Put half a wheel in the wrong place & pay the penalty. I can run over 10 laps within two to three tenths but if I push for a bit more....:scared:
     
  7. Otaliema

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    I will finally get a chance to tune again tomorrow:banghead: 6 days with out any chances hurts.
     
  8. shaunm80

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    I am sure that you will be fine.. It won't be the first time your perfected a tune in 4 or 5 days for a FITT competition.

    On another note. I just made a small change to my tune from last night and took another half second out of my lap time. I think that in the right hands, my tune should break into 1.26s easily, as I messed up the end of the lap by running onto the grass and achieved a mid 1.27 lap time. Not sure I will tinker with this car much more now as I am pretty happy but as always, I will sit on my tune for a day or two and make sure I am 100% happy before posting.
     
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  9. Motor City Hami

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    My tune isn't improving much over that very first hour with the car, which is a bit frustrating and concerning. I think it is pretty quick with the wheel. I just tested with the DS3 and automatic transmission since we have some testers who prefer that driving input. Wow. I like it. Amazing how little steering input this car needs at initial turn in.

    I may call the tune done now because it just isn't getting any faster. So no more tuning, but want to race it. Maybe it's time for an online room?
     
  10. Pete05

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    Looks like we're sort of in the same boat as I've had a bit of tinker but not seeing much of a result yet. I'm going to persist a little longer & then put it under the cover until the testing begins. I've even tried the auto version to see that's ok too. I'm really looking forward to testing the 12 prospective tunes & seeing just how much time separates 1st to last.
     
  11. DaBomm4

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    Too many other things going on in my life right now, I will not be able to get a tune built. :(
     
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  12. shaunm80

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    Unlike button required. Thats too bad. Sorry your not going to be involved. Would have been good to see what you could have done with this car. Hope your life calms down soon. :)
     
  13. Pete05

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    That's a shame my friend but totally understandable in this current world we live in.
    Thankyou for showing enthusiasm & interest in the contest anyway :bowdown: :) :tup:
     
  14. DaBomm4

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    Thanks guys, a problem developed Friday and now I need to spend time and money, which are both at a premium right now, to fix it.
     
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    Well here's hoping you get that sorted quickly & with the minimum of fuss.
     
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  16. Ridox2JZGTE

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    My entry, made long time ago when I first got access to Senna events ( when I updated )

    RALT RT3 Formula 3
    West Surrey Racing Formula 3 Toyota 2T-G Novamotor
    British F3 Championship

    Tuned to replicate RALT F3 RT3
    Sports Hard to Racing Hard


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    CAR : WSR 1983 Ayrton Senna
    Tire : Sports Hard to Racing Hard


    Specs
    Horsepower: 172 HP at 6000 RPM
    Torque : 167.0 ft-lb at 5000 RPM
    Power Limiter at : 100%
    Weight: 455 kg
    Ballast : 0 kg
    Ballast Position : 0
    Weight Distribution : 46 / 54
    Performance Points: 559


    GT AUTO
    Oil change
    Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD )
    Wheels : Stock
    Car Paint : White/Stock


    Tuning Parts Installed :
    Racing Exhaust
    Adjustable LSD
    Fully Customizable Suspension


    Suspension - Adapted Baseline Rate Eibach Springs + Koni/Bilstein Damper
    Base Low Camber Alignment

    Front, Rear

    Ride Height: 40 40
    Spring Rate: 14.28 21.43
    Dampers (Compression): 3 1
    Dampers (Extension): 2 2
    Anti-Roll Bars: 5 3
    Camber Angle: 0.5 0.0
    Toe Angle: -0.54 0.27


    DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - HEWLAND MK9
    Set Default
    Use Default Final
    Set Auto Max Speed to 240kmh / 149mph
    Adjust each gear :
    1st 2.750
    2nd 1.857
    3rd 1.389
    4th 1.105
    5th 0.889
    Set Final Gear : 3.444

    LSD - Hewland Powerflow 10-15 preload, 80/80 Ramp
    Initial Torque : 6
    Acceleration Sensitivity: 11
    Braking Sensitivity: 11

    AERO - Minimum Setup

    Front = 555
    Rear = 700

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    Brake Balance:
    3/4 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 3/4, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance, 3/5 ABS 1 recommended.

    Recommended setting for DS3 user :

    Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 3/5 brake balance as starting point.

    Notes :

    Base replica setup for RALT RT3 F3 car, used real life data for suspension, gear ratio and LSD. Spring rate of real F3 RT3 are pretty low ( half of what I used ), so in GT6, used lowest possible while maintain the ratio. Gear ratio taken from Hewland Mk9 catalog, with final options included.

    Tested at Brands Hatch GP 80's on RH/Medium Camber, capable of low 1:25s on 1st lap with lots of room of improvement. Should be 1:24s with no lock ups and slow entry on some corners. Originally posted in my garage with optional medium camber. Only need a split second lift or dab on the brakes for high speed curve. Take 1st turn from the middle line right after the pit exit line, dab the brakes, turn the car into the apex and flat out.


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  17. DolHaus

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    West Surrey Racing 1983 Ayrton Senna


    PP: 559
    HP: 172
    WEIGHT: 455kg
    WEIGHT DIST: 46:54
    TIRE(S): RH

    GT Auto:
    Oil Change - Yes
    Rigidity Improvement - Not Allowed
    Front Aero - Not Allowed
    Wing - Not Allowed
    Flat Floor - Not Allowed

    SUSPENSION:
    RIDE HEIGHT: 40 / 40
    SPRINGS: 17.85 / 24.00
    COMP: 4 / 7
    EXT: 6 / 6
    ARB: 6 / 6
    CAMBER: 0.1 / 0.1
    TOE: 0.02 / 0.00

    BRAKES: (TYPE) Racing
    BRAKES - 6 / 8

    TRANS:Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
    TOP SPEED TO
    - 137mph

    1ST - 2.603
    2ND - 1.805
    3RD - 1.430
    4TH - 1.123
    5TH - 0.914

    FINAL - 3.250

    LSD:Full Custom
    INITIAL - 15
    ACCEL - 17
    DECEL - 17

    CLUTCH TYPE: Standard
    CARBON SHAFT: Standard
    TORQUE CENTERING DIFF: N/A

    POWER PARTS:
    ENGINE TUNING - Standard
    COMPUTER - Standard
    EXHAUST - Racing
    MANIFOLD - Standard
    CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Standard
    INTAKE TUNING - Standard
    SUPERCHARGER/TURBO -
    POWER LIMITER - 100 %

    WEIGHT REDUCTION -
    CARBON HOOD - Standard
    WINDOW WEIGHT - Standard

    BALLAST - 0 @ 0
    DOWNFORCE - 800 / 992

    Notes: I am a leaf on the wind, watch me as I soar
     
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  18. xande1959

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    WSR/Senna F3 Challenge
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    PP: 559
    HP: 172
    TORQUE: 167 ft-lb
    WEIGHT: 455 Kg
    WEIGHT DIST: 46 : 54
    TIRE(S): Racing Hard

    SUSPENSION: Full Custom // Brakes:
    RIDE HEIGHT - 40 (F) / (R) 40
    SPRINGS - 16,40 (F) / (R) 19,73
    COMP - 3 (F) / (R) 3
    EXT - 6 (F) / (R) 5
    ARB - 5 (F) / (R) 7

    CAMBER - 0,0 (F) / (R) 1,8

    TOE - -0,22 (F) / (R) 0,36

    BRAKES - 5 (F) / (R) 5
    TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
    FINAL TO - 3,560
    TOP SPEED TO - 240 Km/h
    1ST - 2,818
    2ND - 1,855
    3RD - 1,335
    4TH - 1,000
    5TH - 0,770
    6TH -
    7TH -
    FINAL - 3,560
    LSD: Full Custom
    INITIAL - 08
    ACCEL - 11
    DECEL - 09

    DOWNFORCE
    560 (F) / (R) 725

    ENJOY
     
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  19. shaunm80

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    Here is my entry for the Senna Challenge.

    Ayrton Senna WSR, 1983 Ayrton Senna

    559PP
    172 BHP
    455kgs
    Weight Distribution 46:54

    Racing Hard Tyres

    Oil Change

    FC Suspension

    F/R
    40/40
    18.50/24.20
    5/5
    4/7
    2/4
    0.8/1.2
    -0.06/0.03

    Racing Brake Kit
    5/6

    FC Transmission
    (Reset to default)
    Set final gear to 5.000
    Set max speed to 124mph
    1st 1.986
    2nd 1.601
    3rd 1.193
    4th 0.941
    5th 0.782
    Set final gear to 3.760

    FC LSD
    18/25/8

    Set power limiter to 100.0%

    Downforce
    F/R
    800/1000

    Tuned with ABS 1 only.

    Original Link here

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  20. Pete05

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    This is proving to be very interesting. Four tunes posted so far, and as a result, what appear to be four very different ways to skin the same cat :D

    Apologies to all the cat lovers out there :p
     
  21. Otaliema

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    Done right T5 can be taken flat out at 200 km/h :tup: but T6 can not...
     
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    If you get T5 spot on, T6 is most definitely not a flat out corner :ouch:
     
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    I think T6 is only flat out if you really botch up T5, it's got *for me at least* a max entry speed of 175160 km/h to clear it cleanly.
     
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    I don't think it's saying too much to admit T3 & T5 are the only corners that can be taken absolutely flat, even on the best lap possible with my setup.
    I'll also admit after having GT6 from day 1, I've only just discovered the live timing screen when watching a replay :dunce:
    All this time I've been grabbing pen & paper to madly scribble down the sectors as they appear on screen :dopey: :O
     
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  25. Otaliema

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    Yeah I'm in the same boat now. I've made the car faster outt of T4 and down the straight and I can't take T5 flat out have to lift a tad and am actaully slower at exit of T5 because of it. -_- :ouch:
     
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  26. DolHaus

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    T5 is definitely flat out, just follow the rubber on the road and it will show you where to turn in, its a little later than you might expect. Little dab on the brakes and throw it across the curb at T6 and the same at T7, T8 is faster than you think, if you use the camber correctly you can slingshot yourself out the other side.

    (I was running consistent low 25s with a few mid/high 24s)
     
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    Just to let you all know, I've edited my last post. I meant to say T3 & T5 are the flat out corners, not T3 & T6 as I posted.
    Anyone that's able to take T6 flat & make it out the other side in one piece needs to be scanned for a CPU :odd:
     
  28. DolHaus

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    1:24.967

    Could have been a bit cleaner in a lot of places but you get the idea :tup:
     
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  29. Otaliema

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    Great lap. I see I need to speed up my car a tad...only one mph faster then you :lol:
     
  30. DolHaus

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    I didn't have the best run through turn 4, could have squeezed another couple mph out of the end of the back straight. I would expect yours to be fast as you're better with transmissions, I fear that may be a defining feature on the cars
     
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