Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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Funny thing I messaged Thomas about another reviewer attaining a wheel from him.

He did say that he hadn't sent one out but will do so shortly.

Wouldn't be Christmas without a bit of Drama eh.

Silly airing your troubles over the net but if one responds the other has too.

Just wish they'd sort it.
 
amf7
Hi all... Take a deep breath and keep this civil...

Thomas's side of the story for everyone to read

http://911wheel.de/?q=node/7506

Group hugs?
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Darin should have just said, "I am no longer working for Fanatec any more. Regardless of this or my previous employment at Fanatec we will still review their products with impartiality. I am glad to be back at ISR and I thank Thomas for the opportunity work for his company" Boom! Its that simple. Instead, he opened a can of worms...
 
You know what would be nice, if some other guy who's never touched a wheel would review it. There is nothing more honest then a newbie racer with a wheel to test. ;)
 
LogiForce
You know what would be nice, if some other guy who's never touched a wheel would review it. There is nothing more honest then a newbie racer with a wheel to test. ;)
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The real trick as a writer (because in the end that is what you really are) is to take yourself out of your own shoes and imagine all the types of people that will read you review. Imagine who they are, how they think, what they like, etc and then write to them. This is what separates a NY times columnist from your local paper.

I think a newbie will not be able to discern the nuances of a CSRE vs a T500RS. It will just be awesome to them. And that is fine, if they are writing to newbies, because that is all they need to hear. But that is not enough for "the hardcore". The trick, is writing for both.
 
paskowitz
The real trick as a writer (because in the end that is what you really are) is to take yourself out of your own shoes and imagine all the types of people that will read you review. Imagine who they are, how they think, what they like, etc and then write to them. This is what separates a NY times columnist from your local paper.

I think a newbie will not be able to discern the nuances of a CSRE vs a T500RS. It will just be awesome to them. And that is fine, if they are writing to newbies, because that is all they need to hear. But that is not enough for "the hardcore". The trick, is writing for both.
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Ehm, you are forgetting something I think. There are lots of people in the world who have driven a car for years in real life but never used a racing wheel in a computer game. So it's not like it will be awesome at first sight. They might think it's not real enough compared to their experience as a normal everyday driver.

I agree that a reviewer needs to keep in mind many different people with many different interests. The other things is that a reviewer always needs to be able think in and out of the box and look at it from different angles in an instant, which shouldn't always be people related but also technical related.

Also please don't start about the news, cause my local paper does more background checking then any of the national sources here, let alone international sources. So the bigger the agency or company doesn't always equal better output. ;)
 
LogiForce
Ehm, you are forgetting something I think. There are lots of people in the world who have driven a car for years in real life but never used a racing wheel in a computer game. So it's not like it will be awesome at first sight. They might think it's not real enough compared to their experience as a normal everyday driver.

I agree that a reviewer needs to keep in mind many different people with many different interests. The other things is that a reviewer always needs to be able think in and out of the box and look at it from different angles in an instant, which shouldn't always be people related but also technical related.

Also please don't start about the news, cause my local paper does more background checking then any of the national sources here, let alone international sources. So the bigger the agency or company doesn't always equal better output. ;)
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Well my local paper is trash.... So I made a generalization.
 
paskowitz
Well my local paper is trash.... So I made a generalization.
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I'd rather call it a waste of paper then. lol

To get back on topic though.

I wonder when that call gets through to Shaun? Will they get their issues sorted, will it end with a bang since it's almost new years anyway... or do they indeed agree to review a wheel?
That and more on the next episode of As The Sim World Turns. :dopey:
 
LogiForce
I'd rather call it a waste of paper then. lol

To get back on topic though.

I wonder when that call gets through to Shaun? Will they get their issues sorted, will it end with a bang since it's almost new years anyway... or do they indeed agree to review a wheel?
That and more on the next episode of As The Sim World Turns. :dopey:
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Lol! I laughed, hard. I am sure it is serious to them but thats just funny.
 
porsche 9146
I think you should wait on the CSS before deciding on either shifter. the TH8 RS may be better, but it'd be better to wait on the details for both, that way you don't jump into the TH8 RS only to find out that the CSS is 10 times better 2 weeks later.
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I know pricing is still speculation, but I thought I saw the CSS was going to shoot for around $100, is that correct? Because even if it the TH8 was only a little bit better than the CSS, I would find it hard to justify twice the price, also have to throw in the price of the Fanatec/TH8 adapter in the mix too. I wonder how much the CSS will actually retail for when it comes out?
 
I always had a bad feeling bout Darrin joining up with Fanatec in regards to the show. Just couldn't see how that could help ISR as we've complained bout a few months back when all this was announced in this very same thread. I stopped watching the show when I saw poor Shaun trying to review wheels solo :crazy:

And I shared my thoughts with them at their forums so it's not like I'm talking smack behind their backs*
 
sandboxgod
I always had a bad feeling bout Darrin joining up with Fanatec in regards to the show. Just couldn't see how that could help ISR as we've complained bout a few months back when all this was announced in this very same thread. I stopped watching the show when I saw poor Shaun trying to review wheels solo :crazy:

And I shared my thoughts with them at their forums so it's not like I'm talking smack behind their backs*
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I told Darrin when he joined Fanatec that it was a bad idea, a conflict of interest. Darrin thought it would not interfere with ISR. I believe that with Tommy leaving the show and Jessica only coming in on a part time basis and Darrin working his show and for Fanatec it had a great strain on both him and ISR.

Now that Darrin is back full time with his show and with the separation of Fanatec there were some obvious disappointments on both sides. Whatever went down went down badly. My prediction is they both need each other and after the new year ISR will review the Elite wheel and the time rift will be mended once more.
 
left888
My prediction is they both need each other and after the new year ISR will review the Elite wheel and the time rift will be mended once more.
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I was thinking the same. Doing hardware reviews and not having Fanatec represented... it kind of doesn't make sense.

On Fanatec's side it is also important exposure. "Serious" sim-racers say the show has lost relevance but they already know about Fanatec. It is clueless people like myself who got to find out there was an alternative. Otherwise I would have a G25/27 right now instead of a GT3rs.
 
I find it somewhat disrespectful to all the reviewers in communities like this one who made reviews and put their thoughts out there about all pro's and con's. I mean to say ISR is your only influence on what you buy makes their efforts seem completely useless.
Also the news is often faster via communities like this that you and I are part of then via ISR. I have seen it on multiple occasions in the short time I was here.
 
Sure it's a challenge to get people to notice your reviews and make it a deciding factor in their decision to make a purchase, but I was more getting at the fact that every opinion of anyone in a community someone is part of will have some (no matter how little) influence in any decision making.

I could turn it around as well by stating that making a decision purely on the input of one person is not smart at all to say the least. I mean this in the direction of letting anyone influence you up to this extend being not good as you let them have complete control over you in terms of purchases.
I personally like to stay in control and be smart about it and read myself into every aspect of a product via multiple ways and people. Reviews, specs, support, known issues, user opinions... etc.
 
Getting back the the Elite, has anyone noticed any cogging while playing F1 2011 on the 360?

I'm sure I didn't notice it the first time I played F1 (PRE-Firmware), but I don't know whether I'm now noticing it after being spoiled by the Forza and GT5 feedback that I happened to play POST-firmware.

Is it quite normal to feel cogging on one game, but not another?

Also, I'm only just learning the effect of setting adjustments - is there a way to reduce or disguise any game-specific cogging with these?
 
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Just another crazy suggestion for the CSS. We have changeable rims, how about changeable gear sticks? I would love for a retro type gear stick.
 
mika haka
Just another crazy suggestion for the CSS. We have changeable rims, how about changeable gear sticks? I would love for a retro type gear stick.
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I believe that will be a feature.

My suggestion. Release the dang thing! Lol
 
I suggest that we wait until Fanatec has worked out all the small issues with any product they will release in the future. Fast releases and buggy equipment aren't a good marketing point, even though the customers would love a product asap then won't be satisfied with a non-working one.
 
Honestly, I'd rather have a slightly buggy CSW right now than wait another 6 months for an absolutely flawless one. But I'm also severely impatient.
 
superbike81
Honestly, I'd rather have a slightly buggy CSW right now than wait another 6 months for an absolutely flawless one.
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I can't agree with you mate.

Edit don't agree with Caz either.
 
Spagetti69
I can't agree with you mate.

Edit don't agree with Caz either.
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My statement about releasing the shifter? Or me being an ass? Lol.

I can wait.
1 im broke.
2 my tv is being a DB and developing stuck pixls ( 27 now. Started after halloween )
3. This morning the tv developed a lamp fault
4. Honestly, my modded porsche shifter set is good enough for now.
 
Caz
I agree logi just being an ass ;)
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I found the right picture for you Caz. :dopey:

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I thought you were, was just trying to bring up a discussion. Which worked. ;)

superbike81
Honestly, I'd rather have a slightly buggy CSW right now than wait another 6 months for an absolutely flawless one. But I'm also severely impatient.
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I totally disagree with releasing a buggy CSW. That thing is way too expensive to release with bugs. People are even complaining about the CSR Elite's bugs in combination with the price tag already. So releasing a buggy CSW is definately going to damage Fanatec.
 
Don't cross the streams..............

Wait til it's right Thomas. This will ensure pure bliss to us PC sim racers. I for one am waiting for it, but will wait until it is right. I learned my lesson with the GT2 and Nascar The Game 2011. Never again!

These statements can't be any more true: Good things come to those who wait....... & Patience is a virtue. (I need to tell these to myself quite often)
 
Lol logi!

And I agree fully with holding off releasing any product until it is tested as well as it can be. You will never catch everything in limited beta/community testing that would pop up once the product gets into the hands of consumers and used under many conditions. But as thorough testing thats possible should be done.
The community testing is a great idea and i hope fanatec continues to do so with upcoming releases along side beta testing.




Agp: what happens when you cross the streams ? ;)
 

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