FITT Heart and Seoul Challenge

Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by sinof1337, Sep 9, 2016.

  1. Ridox2JZGTE

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    Got into 1:25s with Genesis on SH, still far from Spirra in terms of balance and ease of driving :(
     
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  2. Lionheart2113

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    Low 1:22's on Sports:Med with a decent pace, but when the tires warm up and the planets align, I'm in the high 1:21's.:tup:



    I still have a little more work to do on corner exit when launching in 2nd. Seems to be a little hit and miss on the grip.:banghead:
     
  3. Ridox2JZGTE

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    Just tried SM, 1:23s flat, still with 56/44 weight distribution, standard brakes, general tendency to push with sluggish 2nd and 3rd gear :(

    The Spirra already beaten the Genesis from the up hill section ( first few corners ), at least on my cars. The spirra has less HP, but also lighter and more torque.
     
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  4. Lionheart2113

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    Watching @OdeFinn video, it does look like that car would be fun to drive...especially with a wheel! Might give it a go tomorrow, but I'm pretty happy with the Genesis...and it took me less than 8 hours to tune!:dopey:
     
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  5. Ridox2JZGTE

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    8 hours :eek: Does that mean 7+ hours :p I spent about 30 minutes tweaking already setup Genesis, trying stiffer springs/damper and see how the car react. The gear ratio taken from the Spirra do not work well on Genesis, and the heavy nose :lol: I do not use turbo, so NA approach. It's a curiosity that lead me to try the Genesis, and the front toe in from the replica works here.

    My Spirra did 1:21s on SM in 1st lap :p and it's still quirky when treated badly
     
  6. OdeFinn

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    Indeed fun to drive, after you have sorted out rear traction on/off problem with swinging rear mass. I got it pretty quickly on balanced state what allows smooth slides without sledgehammer swing on rear. Like said it's now driven half hour, ~15 laps and it needs finishing to get 90% controllable rear to 100% control, missing 10% is 5/5% polishing turnability and slide control edges, maybe doing gearbox..

    Pita on hot corner entry's if balance fail, luckily I'm with my tune on point where it won't bite on hot entry's. Underrated car, maybe tweaking it to comparable 500pp online car.
     
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  7. RMan72

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    Run the Spirra stock with only change to SM's tyres. Car turns in well but backend loves to come round. Looking forward to seeing how you tuners dial this out.

    Once I settled into a rhythm got her into the mid 1:25's with a best of 1:25.309

    Edit:

    Took the Genesis out stock with the only change being to put SM's tyres on. She's alot more stable than the Spirra with a slight hint of understeer, the back will step out but only if the loud pedal is pushed to hard out of the slow corners. Run constant low 1:28's high 1:27's with a best of 1:27.600
     
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  8. fordlaser

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    Is track conditions set to Real for this event ?.
     
  9. sinof1337

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    All added.

    Yes, I'll add that to the rules,
     
  10. 787bcgr

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    I want to be a Spirra tuner
     
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  11. Ridox2JZGTE

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    I did another couple of laps with the Genesis, looking for more grip from damper and ARB, still running same stiff springs, same gear ratio from Spirra (except final drive ), essentially same car that did 1:23s flat on SM with revised damper and rear ARB ( running a few slow pace laps ). Using slower Spirra ghost at mid 1:22s, managed to beat it on 1st lap by 2 tenths with a slow exit on the long circular right going up hill and some wheelspin on last turn getting too excited not to be passed by Spirra ghost :p

    EDIT : Posted the car with replay of the lap on my garage, it's not an entry for this event, but feel free to use it as ghost.
     
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  12. Lionheart2113

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    Oh :censored:

    After a half hour of throwing wrenches at it... It is a handful, but great fun.
    image.jpeg
     
  13. Ridox2JZGTE

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    You are faster than me on the Spirra :dunce: I knew it can do 1:20s :mischievous:
     
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    This is my Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track '13 tune, enjoy testers.


    Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track '13


    510PP
    417BHP
    1,246
    Weight Distribution
    56 : 44

    Sports: Medium Hard Tyres

    FC Suspension

    F/R
    100/105
    5.15/4.45
    4/3
    2/4
    3/6
    0.0/0.0
    -0.10/0.04

    Racing Brake Kit
    6/5

    FC Transmission
    Set final gear to 5.100
    Set max speed to 200kmh
    1st 2.913
    2nd 2.235
    3rd 1.795
    4th 1.495
    5th 1.255
    6th 1.065
    Set final gear to 4.090

    FC LSD
    18/6/12
    Triple Plate Clutch
    Carbon Prop Shaft


    Set power limiter to 90.8%
    Engine Tuning Stage 1


    Sports Computer

    Racing Exhaust

    Isometric Exhaust Manifold

    Catalytic Converter:Sports



    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    Carbon Bonnet
    Window Weight Reduction
     
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  15. Ridox2JZGTE

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    OULLIM MOTORS Spirra Prototype '04 500PP
    FITT Heart and Seoul

    Special Build Spirra Proto at 500PP
    Sports Medium


    Autumn Ring_34.jpg


    CAR : Oullim Motors Spirra Prototype '04
    Tire : Sports Medium


    Specs
    Horsepower: 358HP at 6000 RPM
    Torque : 353.3 ft-lb at 4200 RPM
    Power Limiter at : 96.9%
    Weight: 1205 kg
    Ballast : 0 kg
    Ballast Position : 0
    Weight Distribution : 44 / 56
    Performance Points: 500


    GT AUTO
    NO Oil change
    Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD )
    Custom Rear Wing :
    Wing Mount Standard Type D
    Wing Large Type E
    Winglets Large Type C
    Height -7 and Width +16
    Wheels : Standard Size PDI P525 in Black
    Car Paint : Gun Gray Metallic or Azzuro
    Brake Caliper Paint : Red



    Tuning Parts Installed :
    Semi Racing Exhaust
    Isometric Exhaust Manifold
    Intake Tuning
    Twin Plate Clutch
    Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
    Adjustable LSD
    Fully Customizable Suspension
    Racing Brakes Kit



    Suspension - Custom Coilover Damper Kit
    Front, Rear

    Ride Height: 110 110
    Spring Rate: 12.00 9.00
    Dampers (Compression): 7 8
    Dampers (Extension): 8 6
    Anti-Roll Bars: 5 5
    Camber Angle: 0.8 0.8
    Toe Angle: -0.08 0.08



    LSD - 2 Way LSD Medium Preload Low Locking Rate
    Initial Torque : 26
    Acceleration Sensitivity: 20
    Braking Sensitivity: 20


    DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - Custom Close Ratio
    Install all power parts
    Set Default
    Set Final to 3.900
    Set Auto Max Speed at 220kmh / 137mph
    Adjust each gear :
    1st 3.259
    2nd 2.364
    3rd 1.811
    4th 1.474
    5th 1.238
    6th 1.037
    Set Final : 3.300


    AERO:
    REAR : 20 ( MAX )


    Brake Balance:
    4/3 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 4/3, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance. I recommend to run 5/4 for ABS1.

    Recommended setting for DS3 user :

    Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 4/3 brake balance as starting point.



    Notes :
    The 500PP based on the old tune from Difficult Car Spotlight, I made little changes for Autumn Ring Reverse and SM tire.

    Tested at Autumn Ring Reverse, grip real, time 14:00, no assists, SM, managed 1:21s on 1st lap, with some some places that can be improved as I didn't really aggressive on some of the curbs and some slow section :p

    Replay included
     

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  16. sinof1337

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    The Genesis is allowed up to 510PP for the event. Do you want to change your tune?

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  17. fordlaser

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    It should have been 510PP, I will change it thanks.
     
  18. Otaliema

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    :boggled: Looks like a fun challenge sir.
    Wish I could join. Sadly these two cars escaped me when I was tuning so don't have anything to pull from the garage.
     
  19. Lionheart2113

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    Wait till you run your 10 test laps in mine, you'll beat my time by hitting those apexes I missed.:mischievous:
     
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  20. squander

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  21. OdeFinn

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    Long story short.. Make notes, do backups, remember what you're doing..

    Soon posting final tune for Spirra, not what it was but close, destroyed excellent wingless setup accidentally, got frustrated and did one with wing. All I can say, it had perfect gearbox until.. Grin..
    It was quick and kinda easy to drive, well now it's easy and kinda quick, same thing?

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    Oullim Motors Spirra Prototype '04 - FITT compo tune
    500pp​


    Tuned for version 1.2x
    NO Oil change
    Suspension (Full Custom) - Sports Medium
    Ride Height (mm): 130 /130
    Spring Rate (kgf/mm): 12.01 / 8.55
    Dampers (Compression): 4 / 5
    Dampers (Extension): 7 / 8
    Anti-Roll Bars: 5 / 3
    Camber Angle (-): 1.9 / 2.1
    Toe Angle: -0.18 / +0.05

    Brake Balance Controller
    Standard Brakes
    Brake Balance: 7 / 6


    Drivetrain
    Initial Torque: 7
    Acceleration Sensitivity: 31
    Braking Sensitivity: 15
    Twin-Plate Clutch


    Power for 348BHP/448Nm/500pp
    Limiter - 98.4%
    Semi-Racing Exhaust
    Catalytic Converter Sports


    Gearbox (Full Custom)
    Set Transmission to default
    Set Max Speed to 340 km/h
    1st gear: 3.142
    2nd gear: 2.079
    3rd gear: 1.502
    4th gear: 1.139
    5th gear: 0.908
    6th gear: 0.759
    Set Final Drive Ratio to 3.771


    Body weight 1115kg (48:52) - NO Body Rigidity!
    Downforce - Rear 10
    Special Wing - Type C
    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    Ballast 91kg @-50

    Wheels standard size RAYS Volk Trinity V - grey (2nd) painted with black


    2nd "version" of tune, positive thing for AT drivers, using transmission what suits them too..
    ..If they just remember on 2nd gear turns be ready or brake gently or on straight line. :)

    Easy, fun, "hybrid" from original what I was making. Now I'll start get miles on odometer at Nordschleife, good luck to testers and others who might try out this.

    Edit: fixed typo on Brake Bias, 6/6 => 7/6.
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2016
  22. Jeje6410

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  23. Lionheart2113

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    All sorts of tunes flying out of garages today... might as well add mine to the fray.

    FITT Heart & Seoul Challenge
    Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track '13
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    Although the Genesis is a knife in this gun fight, there's always DC scores.:banghead: That and going toe to toe with other Hyundai's. I'm looking over at you @fordlaser777 :mischievous:
    Testers have fun and enjoy!:tup:
    :cheers:
     
  24. shaunm80

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    All I have is a base tune so far. Feeling behind the times here. I too will be tuning the Genesis though and lionheart is right, slower than the Spirra but I am hoping DC will save me.
     
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  25. sinof1337

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    All of today's tunes are added, thank you everyone. At this rate, we might be able to start testing early :lol:

    I knew the Genesis was a bit of an underdog(hence the PP bump), but I didn't realize that gap was so big. If the results are as night and day as it seems they are going to be, I'll split the time podium and have each model ranked separately.
     
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  26. OdeFinn

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    @sinof1337 don't know are testers using brake bias as is, but anyhow there is typo on my tune, there reads 6/6 bias and it should read 7/6. If it's used as is then can't do a thing, but if it's suggestion to testers then may I change it to correct value?

    Hunting sub 9min at Nurb V, noABS, wear fast, all real, friend got his Camaro under after several races (8:58.9xx), I just got stuck on flat 9 min.. :(
     
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  27. xande1959

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    someone already has a media time on the circuit Autunm Ring
     
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  28. sinof1337

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    Go ahead and fix it. Its a simple typo and testing hasn't officially started yet, so your fine.
     
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  30. xande1959

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    Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track ' 13
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    Specifications
    Performance Points:
    510 PP
    Max. Power:
    417 HP
    Weight:
    1246 kg
    Weight Distribution (F/R):
    5644 / -5544
    Max. Torque:
    347 ft-lb
    Drivetrain:
    FR
    Game Version:
    1.22
    Controller Type:
    Steering Wheel
    Tires
    Tires (Front):
    Sports: Medium
    Tires (Rear):
    Sports: Medium
    Parts & Modifications
    Wheel Model:
    BBS LM-R
    Suspension Kit:
    Height-Adjustable, Fully Customizable Suspension
    Transmission:
    Fully-Customizable Transmission
    Clutch:
    Triple-Plate Clutch Kit
    Engine:
    Stage 3
    Other Parts:



      • Racing Brake Kit
      • Carbon Fiber Driveshaft
      • Window Weight Reduction
      • Carbon Hood (Body Color)
      • Weight stage 3
    Suspension
    Ride Height (F/R):
    96 / 97
    Spring Rate (F/R):
    5.74 / 5.56
    Dampers - Comp. (F/R):
    4 / 5
    Dampers - Ext. (F/R):
    3 / 4
    Anti-Roll Bars (F/R):
    5 / 6
    Camber Angle (F/R):
    0.0 / 0.0
    Toe Angle (F/R):
    0.03 / 0.26
    Brake Balance (F/R):
    7 / 3
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    Transmission
    Max. Speed:
    260 kph
    1st Gear:
    3.618
    2nd Gear:
    2.512
    3rd Gear:
    1.868
    4th Gear:
    1.454
    5th Gear:
    1.184
    6th Gear:
    1.009
    Final Gear:
    4.027
    Special Instructions:
    reset / Final Gear=4.027 / 123456 .
    Drivetrain
    Initial Torque (F/R):
    00 / 06
    Accel. Sensitivity (F/R):
    00 / 15
    Braking Sensitivity (F/R):
    00 / 07
    F/R Torque Distribution:
    5644 / -5544
    Power
    Power Limiter:
    97.5%
    Body
    Ballast Weight:
    00 kg
    Ballast Position:
    -50%
    Driving Aids
    Traction Control:
    00
    ABS Level 1
    - to say that car. Beautiful yes, time to resume speed calm down with the throttle:cheers::odd:

    best lap time 1:22.581
     
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