FITT Heart and Seoul Challenge

Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by sinof1337, Sep 9, 2016.

  1. pretend racer

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    No I didn't use your ghost. How could I upload your ghost? I would like to try that!



    Unfortunately I can't open the zip file on my phone to watch @OdeFinn laps. Is there some way I can watch them?
     
  2. Ridox2JZGTE

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    I should have removed the wing on my car :p
     
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  3. Ridox2JZGTE

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    The zip file is replay folder that you have to copy onto the PS3, you can use USB disk, create a PS3 Save folder, for instance X:\PS3\SaveData, unzip the file into the SaveData directory, the name of the folder should resemble something like X:\PS3\SAVEDATA\BCJS37016-RPLYxxx. Now put the USB disk into the PS3 and copy the replay folder, it should be saved under save data. Go to GT6 game, open gallery, then look to the right side tab, upload/import the replay, then you can view it or when on track, upload best lap replay for ghost. Hope this is clear enough and you can enjoy the lap I have driven :)
     
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  4. OdeFinn

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    My zip is including /PS3/SAVEDATA path on all replays, case sensitive thing for PlayStation, all have to be uppercase lettres.
    Just extract it and drop to USB stick /-root. <- for @pretend racer
     
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  5. RMan72

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    @Ridox2JZGTE I performed the @OdeFinn tweak to your setup and managed to drop a good few tenths off my time, unfortunately not as many as @OdeFinn did so I couldn't quite make it into the 1:20 club :(
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  6. Ridox2JZGTE

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    Still amazes me that 1mm drop in height could shave a few tenths :tup:
     
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  7. RMan72

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    For me the car isn't as stable with the drop, it puts her more on the edge but it does produce quicker times. I only run a few laps will do a more in depth run tomorrow. Still a great tune :bowdown:
     
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  8. shaunm80

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    Awesome, Thanks for putting me in 1st. I am honoured.
    Thanks for the review. Very quick times indeed!! 1.20s. That is most impressive. Thanks for being part of FITT and showing what you can do behind the wheel!
     
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  9. RMan72

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    I'm enjoying being part of FITT but I'm behind a DS3 not a wheel unfortunately
     
  10. sinof1337

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    Results after @RMan72 review:

    Time:
    (-) 1. @sinof1337 - 1.22.1023 (-0.5887)
    (-) 2. @787bcgr - 1.22.496 (-0.4625)
    (-) 3. @Ridox2JZGTE - 1.22.852 (-0.5315)
    (-) 4. @OdeFinn - 1.22.983 (-0.52)
    (-) 5. @Lionheart2113 - 1.23.2097 (-0.4733)
    (+1) 6. @fordlaser777 - 1.23.4297 (-0.6258)
    (-1) 7. @xande1959 - 1.23.5517 (-0.2793)
    (-) 8. @Jeje6410 - 1.23.7517 (-0.5203)
    (-) 9. @shaunm80 - 1.23.8457 (-0.5078)
    (-) 10. @squander - 1.24.1493 (-0.6852)

    DC:
    (+2) 1. @Ridox2JZGTE - 57 (+24)
    (-1) 2. @Lionheart2113 -53 (+18)
    (+1) 3. @sinof1337 - 50 (+20)
    (-2) 4. @fordlaser777 - 49 (+15)
    (-) 5. @xande1959 - 36 (+9)
    (+1) 5. @shaunm80 - 36 (+10)
    (-1) 7. @OdeFinn - 33 (+7)
    (-) 8. @Jeje6410 - 31 (+12)
    (-) 9. @squander - 24 (+8)
    (-) 10. @787bcgr - 21 (+6)


    Results after @pretend racer review:

    Time:
    (-) 1. @sinof1337 - 1.21.921 (-0.1813)
    (-) 2. @787bcgr - 1.22.2858 (-0.2102)
    (-) 3. @Ridox2JZGTE - 1.22.6598 (-0.3232)
    (-) 4. @OdeFinn - 1.22.7563 (-0.2267)
    (-) 5. @Lionheart2113 - 1.23.0753 (-0.1344)
    (-) 6. @fordlaser777 - 1.23.27 (-0.1597)
    (-) 7. @xande1959 - 1.23.404 (-0.1477)
    (+1) 8. @shaunm80 - 1.23.552 (-0.2937)
    (-1) 9. @Jeje6410 - 1.23.5605 (-0.1912)
    (-) 10. @squander - 1.23.9165 (-0.2328)

    DC:
    (+1) 1. @Lionheart2113 - 71 (+18)
    (+1) 2. @sinof1337 - 70 (+20)
    (-2) 3. @Ridox2JZGTE - 64 (+7)
    (+1) 4. @shaunm80 - 61 (+25)
    (-1) 5. @fordlaser777 - 59 (+10)
    (-1) 6. @xande1959 - 51 (+15)
    (-) 7. @OdeFinn - 45 (+12)
    (-) 8. @Jeje6410 - 37 (+6)
    (-) 9. @squander - 32 (+8)
    (-) 10. @787bcgr - 30 (+9)

    @pretend racer I have a question. For @Jeje6410 time, It looked like Ridox's time got copied over, so I used the fastest time in the image you provided 1.22.987. Which is the correct time?
     
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  11. pretend racer

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    @sinof1337 yiur right I didn't enter the right laptime for Jeje6410. Your also right in that I did a 1:22.987 in his car.

    It does look like you got a few of the other laptimes wrong though. I can't really blame you because of the way I spammed this thread with my reviews scattered about. Rookie mistakes that I should be able to fix for the next round, now that I have a better idea of how this event is supposed to go.

    Next time I'll put all the important info in one post and then spam with media afterwards!

    Anyways, here's a list of my best laptimes;
    Squander: 1:23.218
    Jeje6410: 1:22.987
    Xande1957: 1:22.961
    Fordlase777: 1:22.791
    Lionheart2113: 1:22.672
    Shaunm80: 1:22.671
    Ridox2JZGTE: 1:22.083
    OdeFinn: 1:22.076
    787bcgr: 1:21.655
    Sinoff1337: 1:21.377

    Thanks for compiling all this data, I'm looking forward to see how this all pans out.
     
  12. sinof1337

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    @pretend racer Thank you, I've updated my previous post with the couple of times I had mistyped. Fortunately, the typos didn't effect the rankings at all.
     
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  13. pretend racer

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    Ok could you explain how to read your chart properly? What do the numbers in brackets mean? I must admit I'm a little confused because I only had 1 laptime that was in the 1:23 second range and yet you have listed 6 cars as 1:23's. Why is that?
     
  14. OdeFinn

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    @pretend racer average lap time after done testers, inside brackets how much change was.
     
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  15. Ridox2JZGTE

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    If you are curious, lightened the car with stage 3 reduction, no ballast, use limiter to hit 500PP, see if the car can be quicker or drive better :)
     
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  16. RMan72

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    Car is quicker and for me slightly better to drive. With the reduced weight the car has more flickabilty and was consistently quicker than before.
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  17. OdeFinn

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    @RMan72 is that with original height?
    Gonna try out that too.
     
  18. RMan72

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    No that's with your height mod on as well
     
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  19. Ridox2JZGTE

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    1:20s :cheers:, should have tried the weight reduction :mad:
     
  20. sinof1337

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    FITT Heart and Seoul Challenge
    Genesis Coupe vs. Spirra Prototype

    All tunes tested with ABS1, all other aids off, steering sensitivity +2. My testing was a bit complicated for this one:
    1. 10 laps with stock Spirra
    2. 5 laps with each tuned Spirra, in the order on the testing sheet.
    3. 3 more laps with each Spirra
    4-6. Repeat previous steps with the Genesis Coupes

    @sinof1337
    Lap Time: 1:22.655 DC: 6th
    Impressions of Tune: The rear has a habit of stepping out while braking, but it’s a lot more stable than the stock car.

    @squander
    Lap Time: 1:24.644 DC: 9th
    Impressions of Tune: A lot of understeer, and while I could spin up the rear wheels and force it where I wanted to go, it would lose a lot of speed in the process.

    @fordlaser777
    Lap Time: 1:23.762 DC: 5th
    Impressions of Tune: A little understeer, and a fair bit of oversteer on some turns, but it was mostly controllable.

    @Jeje6410
    Lap Time: 1:24.197 DC: 7th
    Impressions of Tune: The rear was very planted, almost to a fault; you really have to break and turn hard to get the rear end around sometimes. Additionally, the inside rear tire would spin up a LOT on slower turns, wasting a lot of power on turn exit.

    @Ridox2JZGTE
    Lap Time: 1:22.851 DC: 4th
    Impressions of Tune: Stable enough to let me feel confident in pushing it hard, not quite stable enough to let me actually do so. I found it just a bit harder to drive than the other Spirras.

    @OdeFinn
    Lap Time: 1:23.238 DC: 1st
    Impressions of Tune: Super stable, but it will still step out a bit when you are pushing it hard. Fortunately, I like just a bit of rear slip, especially on chicanes and esses.

    @xande1959
    Lap Time: 1:24.455 DC: 8th
    Impressions of Tune: If it weren’t for a little understeer when off the throttle, I would have thought this was a stock Spirra. Lots and lots of fishtailing.

    @Lionheart2113
    Lap Time: 1:23.685 DC: 2nd
    Impressions of Tune: Almost the least understeer out of all the Genesis Coupes. It did oversteer a fair amount, but it was more stable and consistent about it than the other tunes.

    @shaunm80
    Lap Time: 1:24.932 DC: 10th
    Impressions of Tune: Pros: No Understeer. Cons: Breathing on the gas will cause the rear tires to spin, and I had a lot of trouble getting the rear back behind me once it slipped out. That said, the rear usually didn't get TOO far out, so I may have to try this one on a Drift Seasonal.

    @787bcgr
    Lap Time: 1:22.630 DC: 3rd
    Impressions of Tune: I can see why other testers disliked this tune, but it just kinda clicked for me. The rear was a little finicky like the other Spirras, and more so than @OdeFinn ‘s, but I still enjoyed it, and it put up the fastest time of my testing.

    I'll have the current standings updated in a little bit. Anyone who would still like to test will have until the end of Thursday to let me know.
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2016
  21. OdeFinn

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    :eek: Öööö
    ..Thanks, rereading this few times, got dyslexia probably.
     
  22. sinof1337

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    Results after @sinof1337 review:

    Time:
    (-) 1. @sinof1337 - 1.22.0678 (+0.1468)
    (-) 2. @787bcgr - 1.22.3546 (+0.0688)
    (-) 3. @Ridox2JZGTE - 1.22.698 (+0.0382)
    (-) 4. @OdeFinn - 1.22.8526 (+0.0963)
    (-) 5. @Lionheart2113 - 1.23.1972 (+0.1219)
    (-) 6. @fordlaser777 - 1.23.3684 (+0.0984)
    (-) 7. @xande1959 - 1.23.6142 (+0.2102)
    (+1) 8. @Jeje6410 - 1.23.6878 (+0.1273)
    (-1) 9. @shaunm80 - 1.23.828 (+0.276)
    (-) 10. @squander - 1.24.062 (+0.1455)

    DC:
    (-) 1. @Lionheart2113 - 91 (+20)
    (-) 2. @sinof1337 - 80 (+10)
    (-) 3. @Ridox2JZGTE - 79 (+15)
    (+1) 4. @fordlaser777 -71 (+12)
    (+2) 5. @OdeFinn - 70 (+15)
    (-2) 6. @shaunm80 - 67 (+6)
    (-1) 7. @xande1959 - 59 (+8)
    (+2) 8. @787bcgr - 48 (+18)
    (-1) 9. @Jeje6410 - 46 (+9)
    (-1) 10. @squander - 39 (+7)

    I'm attaching the Excel file I used to calculate this, let me know if there are any errors.
     

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  23. OdeFinn

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    Congratulations to winners on all class @sinof1337 and @Lionheart2113.
    Special thanks to all participants and testers.

    I'm pleased, more than pleased on own results. :)
     
  24. Ridox2JZGTE

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    4th, not bad :) Do you feel the car gets harder to turn or the rear slipping as you near the limit ? That ride height change to 109mm as @OdeFinn suggested may change the car for you, though it won't affect the result here :) Overall, I'm happy with the results, some surprises of #1 DC which I never had, usually it's the last for DC :p
     
  25. Lionheart2113

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    Thanks for the review, like @OdeFinn I am surprised, but more than happy. I thought for sure it was going to be a Marmite tune.
    I knew the speed of the Spirras would be hard to overcome, but :bowdown: to those who tuned them. I'm at 1:20.6 on a base tune, but it seems everything I do trying to help it... hurts it! Definitely a tougher car to fine tune.:tup:
     
  26. Jeje6410

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    Thanks a lot my friend @sinof1337 for your comments and your tests. :cheers:
     
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  27. shaunm80

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    Congratulations to the winners and well done to all the testers. Thanks @sinof1337 for the test. Sorry my tune didn't suit your style but I hope it works well on a drift event for you.
     
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    Testers, what would you guys change to my tune to make more friendly, while not sacrificing speed? (G27 user)
     
  29. OdeFinn

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    Car felt like it's riding on rear tires only and front wheels just barely touch ground and when they were touching you had to be sure at they're pointing precisely on desired direction or rear starts to swing sledgehammer.
    Positive to say at it was possible to save on.99% of cases, but skills required for that saving was draining every bit of my available skills there. (This could be opposite way, rear-front, don't remember exactly where it started swing, will check)

    To do, plant front more and reduce its oversteer ability. On rear end there might be minimal things to do for supporting that front stabilizing.
    I'll try to find time tomorrow for looking it more, gonna anyway use my time on GT6, having new era to conquer, I'm doing replica style drifter, following all real-world rules on tuning, halftime sparring could be with your Spirra. :)
     
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