FITT Miata Tuning Challenge

Lionheart2113
I think MCH is right about this.....
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/fitt-miata-tuning-challenge-by-mch.303511/page-3#post-9374238

And you may have found the same car or another car that acts in the same way. There are a few examples of cars in GT5 that never seemed to behave like everyone thought they would, so I'm sure the same can be said for GT6. Don't stress out too much or you'll end up with grey hairs like I did trying to figure out transmissions setups. If the car is comfortable for you and you feel as if your lap time is competitive...then be proud of it! Happy tuning!
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That's somewhat encouraging! but I'm NOT happy with my tune. I'm just slightly less happy when I steal Hami's suspensions.

I'll keep at it and see what happens. Thanks for the encouragement!
 
Motor City Hami
You never know. PD does like the Miata. They seem to have an advantage over every European or US car at the same PP level. I noticed similar things to your findings that the big gains are coming from LSD and ballast. There are some gains to be had with dampers, springs, toe and ARBs, but they will take some trial and error to find. I also have not tuned a Miata for Willow Springs yet so you are a bit on your own there.

I would encourage to keep at it and post a tune. The driver feedback can be really insightful.
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Since I already spent valuable credits on paint and rims, I might as well continue ;)
 
Jbaffoh
That's somewhat encouraging! but I'm NOT happy with my tune. I'm just slightly less happy when I steal Hami's suspensions.

I'll keep at it and see what happens. Thanks for the encouragement!
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Try medium springs. Some of them that I tried before I settled with the cars I did, I had suspension issues with also. There was no tight or loose, there was only too loose and too tight no matter what I did. I just set both to dead center and tried to fix the issues using other areas instead. I also found, that not all of them have the same issues at all. They are all the same but different, lol, if that helps.
 
I am really super happy with my Touring Car. It handled really well in near stock form and was tons of fun to drive just like that. I spent some time with it and made some small improvements that helped the lap times a great deal. I am talking barely having to use brakes except for 2nd gear corner. That handles just like my real world Miata race car.

As for the Street Touring '07, it is pretty good, but has a little annoying problem. I spent an hour tuning it last and all I did was make it worse. So @Jbaffoh do not get too discouraged. This is a field of good cars. I think that the differences between good tunes and stand out tunes is going to be very little, subtle things and small increments of lap time.

I am really enjoying building the tunes because there is a decision point, like making an art work. Many artists do not know when to stop and call the painting complete. If taken too far, the painting loses something. I feel the same experience tuning the Miata. Do you go with "this tune is going to be pretty fast for everyone" or do you "push the limits hoping that the time trial type racers can bust a hot lap time?"

I cannot wait to see what @praiano63 cooks up. I do not think I will have time to tune this week so probably Saturday night will be it. If @praiano63 posts his tune before mine, I am not going to crack it open until mine is posted. I just want it to be pure, two artist who reveal their paintings at the same time.
 
@Motor City Hami , and we all have the privilage to watch as Da Vinci and Picasso go nuts.

As for me…uh…I'm probably going to lose all my hair by GT7 at this rate, too many decisions to make. The MB MX5 is getting somewhere, 1:34.180, but a question similar to your "let the TT specialists pull an amazing lap" or "settle for middle of the pack with good times all round" is rearing its head. Do I leave the diff as it is and hope everyone can handle the slipping (not sliding, just sort of slipping about like a bar of soap in slow-mo) or bring it down a bit and risk boring everyone? Hmm…probably play it safe for the first shootout. Or go with unlucky 13 on the diff…*touch wood*
 
This is my second official shootout here. And after the first one, it changed how I tune for these completely.
I'm not tuning like it was a tune meant for my garage. My garage is made for a few types of driving styles, where the shootout testers are a very wide range of driving styles.
This is where im differing from last time. It is also what is making it harder for me this time, lol.
easier car to tune, more difficult method of tuning lol
 
MAZDA ROADSTER RS (NC) '07//time best lap (Matterhorn Rotenboden 2.2 miles)1:44,539
.anyone can tell, in this weather I'm on the right track:cheers:

-MAZDA ROADSTER TOURING CAR //time best lap (silverstone grand prix circuit)2:09,***
 
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@Motor City Hami is right, you've got to know when to walk away from a tune. Its very easy to get too specialised with your tuning, you may end up making it fast for yourself but nearly impossible for another driver because they haven't gone through the same gradual learning process with the car, they don't know how each corner should be attacked with your particular style of setup.
I've found a useful trick is to get the car setup one day, get it where you want it to be then take a day off and retest the car to see if it still drives the way you think it should. This fresh outlook gives you a whole new view of the car and how it will appear to testers, you begin to notice where you've got things right and where you've gone too far.
Another useful hint is to not take too much notice of other peoples times, use your own times as reference because there are far too many variables when it comes to outside influence. For instance, I drive with automatic gears and driving line, I know there are better/faster ways to do things but this is how I feel comfortable. When I see other peoples fastest lap times it gives me no reference as to how much of that time was gained due to their tune, for all I know they could have been faster than me in a near stock car.
The only semi accurate way to gain an understanding of improvement is to use your own times as a reference. Once you get the car power/weight/gear tuned, take it out for as many laps as you can, keep lapping until you've found a fast and consistent line. This way you will establish your base level for average lap time and peak lap time, these figure are what you can judge the rest of the tuning process on.
 
Thank you MCH for this Great Fun Shoutout 👍👍

My SCCA Improved Touring Class
Link to my tune Clueless, over The Hill Outlaws - OP Updated 18/02/14
Add Sports Hard Tiers

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My Street Touring Class
Link to my tune Clueless, over The Hill Outlaws - OP Updated 18/02/14
Add Sports Medium Tires

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Lionheart2113
Need to add 22kg unless I read your tune wrong? Should we just add the weight to bring it up to the 925kg minimum??? Great looking car, never noticed mine riding so low, looks cool!
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Thank you 👍 I fix it and I added the 22kg @ 0%.
Now look at the tune again please if something wrong again .

ND
 
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No prob ND, I was worried that I sounded like a 🤬. I'm "unofficially" testing tunes for this group, as I don't know the exact day that the wheels go up on my flight, but maybe if I can get them all in by the time I leave... I'll ask MCH about that. Just don't want to commit and let the group down.
 
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@Otaliema definitely the illness still hanging on. I can feel it still in my head. :crazy:

Not going to tune for this one I decided. Like @Jbaffoh I'm a bit frustrated trying to improve the car(s) I've tried. Hopefully one of the suspension guides I've been reading will kick in at some point and it will all make sense with what happens when I change something in-game. Right now it all feels disconnected....maybe that's the cold too?

krenkme
COMING SOON!!!!
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!!! You stole mah number! :eek: Give it back! :D
 
Motor City Hami
Tuners

SCCA Spec Miata Tuners
backnfourth
Bowtie-muscle
Chipmonk77
DaBomm4
demonchilde
DozUK
Harsk100
HTR Tuning
JackWilson
jules283
killerjimbag
Ridox2JZGTE - https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/fitt-miata-tuning-challenge-by-mch.303511/#post-9367500

SCCA Improved Touring Miata Tuners
ACSR421
Bowtie-muscle
Chipmonk77
DaBomm4
demonchilde
DolHaus
HTR Tuning
jules283
krenkme
Lionheart2113
NEWDRIVER123
Onboy123
Ridox2JZGTE
ugabugaz
XDesperado67

Street Touring Roadster Tuners
ACSR421
donpost
JackWilson
Motor City Hamilton
NEWDRIVER123
Otaliema
Onboy123
praiano63
Ronald6
ugabugaz
XDesperado67

Roadster Touring Car Tuners
DolHaus
donpost
iainoflo85
kapnk006
krenkme
Motor City Hamilton
Otaliema
praiano63
xande1959
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- Street Touring Roadster Tuners (xande1959)be able to include in this car segment would also:tup::cheers:
 
Just looking over the tuner list, impressive turn out and lots of faces I haven't seen before. Thanks @Terronium-12 for the mention in the Rewind! :cheers:
 
@DigitalBaka ugg get well soon man, hydrate and cold meds to keep the head clear, that's what been working for me.

Everything's I think I have the cars good, I find a more stable setting that doesn't sac time, I think I'm going to be cutting close on this challenge.
 


Clicky for tune. Managed a 1:41.9…probably a one off? :lol: Hopefully I made the right choice going with the turbo, I didn't see much difference between the turbo and supercharger so I just went with the tune with better power/weight ratio.
 
I know this is a tad late into the comp but I did find the National A 500PP Clubman cup has a Rotenboden race that you can win with the Roadster '07 easy, it's only 28.400 Cr pay out on 200% but that's better than 0 in time trial. I would def not use it for speed testing i'm running 3-6 seconds slower due to the other cars.
 
Otaliema
I know this is a tad late into the comp but I did find the National A 500PP Clubman cup has a Rotenboden race that you can win with the Roadster '07 easy, it's only 28.400 Cr pay out on 200% but that's better than 0 in time trial. I would def not use it for speed testing i'm running 3-6 seconds slower due to the other cars.
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That's a great tip. To test the touring series I've been taking the new tunes to the National A GT National Championship Race #2 @ Apricot Hill for a couple of races to get over 40,000cr/race (200%). Gives me some money and a good feel for the car before taking it to the time trials for lap attacks!
 
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F.I.T.T: SCCA IMPROVED TOURING CLASS

MX-5 MIATA 1800RS(NB,J) ‘04
LAGUNA BLUE TINTCOAT
RAYS 57XTREME INCH UP 1 (PAINTED: ALPINE WHITE)
NO OIL CHANGE, 430pp, 200hp, 925kg, 50:50 weight dist.

PARTS INSTALLED:
Full Suspension, Racing Brakes
Full Trans, Full LSD
Triple clutch, Carbon Driveshaft
Semi-Racing exhaust, Sports Catalytic Converter
Intake Tuning, Supercharger
Weight Reduction 3, Carbon Hood, Window Weight Reduction

SETTINGS:
Ride Height - 90 / 95
Springs - 7.00 / 5.75
Dampers(comp) - 3 / 6
Dampers(ext) - 5 / 7
Roll Bars - 3 / 5
Camber - 0.0 / 0.0
Toe - -0.16 / 0.05
Brakes - 6 / 4

Limited Slip Diff. - 8 / 11 / 16

Trans: Set Final to 5.500(max), Top Speed to 112(min), Then
1st 2.905
2nd 2.055
3rd 1.615
4th 1.315
5th 1.095
6th 0.930
Final 4.400

Ballast - 22kg @ -10
Power limiter to 90.9%
 
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Mazda MX-5 Miata 1600 NR-A 2004 Tuned for FITT Improved Touring Class Challenge
431 pp
200 hp @ 6,900 rpm
164.2 ft-lb @ 5,800 rpm
925 kg

GT Auto
No Oil Change
1 Inch Up Wheels: PDI P525N
Paint Body: Matte Pink
Paint Wheels: Stock

Parts
Fully Customizible Suspension
Fully Customizible Transmission
Fully Customizible LSD
Triple-Plate Clutch Kit
Carbon Drive Shaft
Engine Tuning Stage 3
Sports Computer
Racing Exhaust
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
Intake Tuning
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood
Window Weight Reduction
Sports Hard

Suspension
Ride Height 90/95
Spring Rate 6.40/7.00
Dampeners Comp 4/4
Dampeners Ext 5/5
Anti-Roll Bars 4/4
Camber Angle 0.0/0.0
Toe Angle 0.00/0.00
Brake Balance 6/4

Transmission
Initial Final 5.500
Top Speed 143
First Gear 2.450
Second Gear 1.770
Third Gear 1.300
Fourth Gear 1.010
Fifth Gear 0.800
Final Gear 4.500

LSD 10/9/14

Power Limiter 92.6%
Ballast Weight 48
Ballast Position 11

Notes: If driving manually, shift between 7,500 and 8,000 RPM.
 
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Well barring any major discovery I should be posting my tunes tomorrow for my cars, just need to paint em, shot em and load em
 
I suppose I'll stay buying up cars so I'm not doing it last minute and running out of credits. In getting to the last bits of IA so I need to make some hefty purchases to continue. :crazy:
 
Bowtie-muscle
F.I.T.T: SCCA IMPROVED TOURING CLASS
MX-5 MIATA 1800RS(NB,J) ‘04
LAGUNA BLUE TINTCOAT
RAYS 57XTREME INCH UP 1 (PAINTED: ALPINE WHITE)
NO OIL CHANGE, 430pp, 200hp, 925kg, 50:50 weight dist.
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I've got a question for you Bowtie... Would you mind sharing your lap times with your tune or are you keeping them secret??:lol:
 
Motor City Hami
I am really enjoying building the tunes because there is a decision point, like making an art work. Many artists do not know when to stop and call the painting complete. If taken too far, the painting loses something. I feel the same experience tuning the Miata. Do you go with "this tune is going to be pretty fast for everyone" or do you "push the limits hoping that the time trial type racers can bust a hot lap time?"
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I like to do the first one to be the tune going to be pretty good fast for every one but not to do hot lap , just to be all tester have almost the same lap time . That's in my opinion .
 
Lionheart2113
I've got a question for you Bowtie... Would you mind sharing your lap times with your tune or are you keeping them secret??:lol:
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Shhhhhh.........don't tell anyone, ok. I could only do 1:33.847, not sure if it's fast enough or if testers will be able to get that with this tune. I use a ds3 and sometimes let my daughter play, she turned srf on which messed me up and all my Miatas for a few days. Had to start over after I wondered where I dropped 2 secs. Average lap for me was 1:34.300. Keep it a secret ok? :lol:
 
Bowtie-muscle
Shhhhhh.........don't tell anyone, ok. I could only do 1:33.847, not sure if it's fast enough or if testers will be able to get that with this tune. I use a ds3 and sometimes let my daughter play, she turned srf on which messed me up and all my Miatas for a few days. Had to start over after I wondered where I dropped 2 secs. Average lap for me was 1:34.300. Keep it a secret ok? :lol:
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Well, I'll be biting my tongue on this one until I drive everyone's tune for this category....I'll just say, if that is your tuning method...ie having your daughter making you redo your work...keep it up, you just might have yourself a good luck charm!!!👍
 

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