Forza 4 Demo Thread

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FM4 Servers went down earlier. Just after I beat Spagetti's time in the Zonda! I feel it easy to control with a controller however, I wonder if it is a controller buffer. I can tell you that the steering assist isn't here as far as I've seen, and if you really try you can get it out of shape. Past that it's the point of no return, you lose control, and your done for.
 
Too all cockpit players please try the hoodcam it's incredible! The sense of speed is amazing the reflections off the hood is crazy.

people say it's realistic in the cockpit it's true to an extent but if you ever went 130 miles an hour like I did one time you can't see anything but the road. In video games the cockpit is always right there in your face the dashboard is not clear enough too read with out looking hard. Forza 4 cockpit is much much better than 3 no question it's playable now but you don't get that rush you would get with the hood cam.

maybe be my opinion but do yourself a favor and try the game in the hoodcam it's breath taking. The graphics really pop and the sound is much much better. You really appreciate the lighting engine. The game feels like a racing game and not a driving game.
 
crispychicken49
FM4 Servers went down earlier. Just after I beat Spagetti's time in the Zonda! I feel it easy to control with a controller however, I wonder if it is a controller buffer. I can tell you that the steering assist isn't here as far as I've seen, and if you really try you can get it out of shape. Past that it's the point of no return, you lose control, and your done for.
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There is and has to be a buffer/steering assist for the controller. Without it, the tires will go to full lock making your efforts to turn the car futile. Ever played Rfactor with a controller with no assists? Its very hard :scared:
 
Symtex
Steering assist is like the moon landing conspiracy. No matter how many proof you show people, its much more exciting to believe in a conspiracy then the plain whole truth.
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Are you saying there is or there isn't an assist?

Fact of the matter is, steering is still heavily assisted.
 
The fact is, there is no assist when assist is disabled, 100%. That is a fact, confirmed by the developers.
 
Bogie 19th
I am trying to insert a video of me playing the game and feeling the assist removed, but the camera can't seem to catch the feel ;)
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Well I asked Thomas what he feels about Dan placing the blame on his product. So, time will tell.
 
Cool ;)

You saying there is assist is like Justin Bieber saying that Selena Gomez doesn't like him for his money.
 
I am totally getting flashbacks to the intro race on Forza 3 with the R8.
 
FyreandIce
Are you saying there is or there isn't an assist?

Fact of the matter is, steering is still heavily assisted.
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I think Dan's right for it being just the FFB Coding for the game. With a controller, you can tell that when you spin there isn't anything correcting your steering. I tried it with the telemetry. I held the steering and Powered Over to spin the car. The Telemetry wheel never adjusted itself.
 
crispychicken49
I think Dan's right for it being just the FFB Coding for the game. With a controller, you can tell that when you spin there isn't anything correcting your steering. I tried it with the telemetry. I held the steering and Powered Over to spin the car. The Telemetry wheel never adjusted itself.
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As I've said elsewhere, the assist isn't there you help you catch slides, it's there so you don't turn too much when going along normally. I just tested it and it is definitely there with wheels (possibly differs depending on degrees of available lock but it's unconfirmed) as well as controllers.

It wouldn't be so bad concerning controllers if it wasn't so damn intrusive. Currently, it will only allow you to go a little passed the tyres grip limits.

It's the same but less with wheels but the thing is it shouldn't be there at all for wheel users.
 
When counter steering the sensitivity is ramped up to basically to match a 270 degree wheel, but only when counter steering. This means you never have to input more than 135 degrees of lock to get full opposite lock while counter steering on a 900 degree wheel. At first I thought it was an assist, but it feels like we still have direct input, it's just that sensitivity is ramped up when counter steering for some weird reason.

It's definitely there. You can see it in the front wheels and on the telemetry. Forza does not have linear steering for 900 degree wheels period. (period.).
 
Yoritomo79
When counter steering the sensitivity is ramped up to basically to match a 270 degree wheel, but only when counter steering. This means you never have to input more than 135 degrees of lock to get full opposite lock while counter steering on a 900 degree wheel. At first I thought it was an assist, but it feels like we still have direct input, it's just that sensitivity is ramped up when counter steering for some weird reason.

It's definitely there. You can see it in the front wheels and on the telemetry. Forza does not have linear steering for 900 degree wheels period. (period.).
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This. I don't know how many times we're going to have to repeat ourselves until people get it and stop denying hard evidence.
 
Hmm, maybe it's a hidden drifter assist for wheel users then?

Interesting idea. I'm trying to read up on as many wheel users' impressions as I can so I can have a little bit of an idea of what to expect when I get my CSR. Going to that from a G27 and I'm hoping it's not too drastic of a differenc.e
 
There is no evidence at this point. Just assumption and a few unanswered question. You are being overly aggressive buttsneeze. There is no need for all this hostility. What I see so far is a wheel support possible issue not steering assists.
 
Symtex
There is no evidence at this point. Just assumption and a few unanswered question. You are being overly aggressive buttsneeze. There is no need for all this hostility. What I see so far is a wheel support possible issue not steering assists.
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It actively changes the steering angle to help you get out of a slide. That is an assist if I've ever seen one.

Here's your evidence. If you deny the presence of the assist after seeing this you might as well deny the moon landing and argue that the sky isn't blue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCbbkHUGOTo&feature=feedlik
 
Symtex
There is no evidence at this point. Just assumption and a few unanswered question. You are being overly aggressive buttsneeze. There is no need for all this hostility. What I see so far is a wheel support possible issue not steering assists.
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I spent about 6 hours with the fanatec in every conceivable setup from 270 degrees to 900. I made the video that's being posted everywhere as evidence of the varying steering ratio, I've even posted extremely detailed explanations on exact transition points.

The wheel is recognized as 900 degrees. There is 1 to 1 mapping with the in game steering wheel from cockpit view. (this only goes to about 160 degrees or so, or 80 degrees in either direction, at which point the cockpit steering wheel stops) There is a somewhat linear mapping (there's a bit more sensitivity in the center) with the steering wheel in telemetry AND the position of the front wheels (the telemetry steering wheel and the front wheels of the vehicle are directly connected. Any change to one is directly reflected in the other.)

The wheel is recognized as a 900 degree wheel and given a series of specific characteristics that are different from a 270 degree wheel. The issue is that during counter steer the steering ratio changes drastically and basically matches that of a 270 degree wheel. There is no logic within the wheel to do something like that. How would there be? The current firmware for the GT2 and PWTS is 6 months old at least. The issue is not the wheel. It is with the game.

There is evidence. I've provided it by testing every damned scenario I can think of to determine the behavior of the wheel in game. Then I posted a short video of the most convincing time when you can actually see the transition from the very fast counter steering ratio to the normal ratio used when driving. You can choose to ignore the evidence, but to say there's just assumption is straight up bullcrap.
 
buttsneeze
It actively changes the steering angle to help you get out of a slide. That is an assist if I've ever seen one.

Here's your evidence. If you deny the presence of the assist after seeing this you might as well deny the moon landing and argue that the sky isn't blue.
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Well being that it's a little past midnight the sky isn't blue right now. It's black with white specs. :lol:





Sorry, Just trying to lighten the mood in here.
 
zr1chris
Well being that it's a little past midnight the sky isn't blue right now. It's black with white specs. :lol:





Sorry, Just trying to lighten the mood in here.
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Why can't you just except the obvious? It's blue, but the universe doesn't render the proper lighting unless your in the Swiss Alps, on a wensday, in june, at 12:03pm GMT, and facing slightly west. Get with the program! :p
 
NA
Why can't you just except the obvious? It's blue, but the universe doesn't render the proper lighting unless your in the Swiss Alps, on a wensday, in june, at 12:03pm GMT, and facing slightly west. Get with the program! :p
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Sorry, I guess I totally failed. :banghead:
 
NA
Don't know about you, but I think I'm going to quite before I start drawing fire. Your right though, the thread needed lightening.👍
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Maybe this will help.

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