Forza 4 Demo Thread

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Risco
Mate, do us all a favour and put a lid on it. For the last 8 pages or so since I replied all I see is you moaning and groaning. So yes, we get it, there is an issue with the steering. But seriously, do you need to go on and on and on about it? The answer is NO, you don't. I am surpised a moderator hasn't branched your posts off to another thread. So far you have come across as obnoxious, rude and arrogant. With that attitude, nobody is gonna listen as you sound like someone with ADHD. I hope I do not see another post about from you unless it is ON TOPIC and about the game, NOT the friggin steering wheel ( which is owned by a very small percentage of users )
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Discussing steering assist in Forza 4 is on topic.
 
So WHAT are people ENJOYING about the demo. Anyone some GOOD things to say, are YOUR impressions good/mixed/bad?

Ive only played with the pad briefly (although on the new projector @ 150" screen) :)
For me this is a big step up over FM3 in many ways and thats a good thing. The AI actually seem pretty quick too which aside from the superb graphics and audio is very much welcomed.

This really as a complete racing game could hammer GT5.
What seems by far easily T10s best work to date.
 
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Mr Latte
So WHAT are people ENJOYING about the demo. Anyone some GOOD things to say, are YOUR impressions good/mixed/bad?

Ive only played with the pad briefly (although on the new projector @ 150" screen) :)
For me this is a big step up over FM3 in many ways and thats a good thing. The AI actually seem pretty quick too which aside from the superb graphics and audio is very much welcomed.

This really as a complete racing game could hammer GT5.
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The car sounds! Simply the best thing about the whole demo. So long as you play something from the xbox media player and pause it so you don't hear the crappy music!
 
Risco
Mate, do us all a favour and put a lid on it. For the last 8 pages or so since I replied all I see is you moaning and groaning. So yes, we get it, there is an issue with the steering. But seriously, do you need to go on and on and on about it? The answer is NO, you don't. I am surpised a moderator hasn't branched your posts off to another thread. So far you have come across as obnoxious, rude and arrogant. With that attitude, nobody is gonna listen as you sound like someone with ADHD. I hope I do not see another post about from you unless it is ON TOPIC and about the game, NOT the friggin steering wheel ( which is owned by a very small percentage of users )

So back on topic, I am totally loving this game. If you have a Sony Bravia set, I suggest you set the scene mode to Gaming Standard. The picture looks a lot more natural. I have to also say that the steering is much improved and the cars don't spin you every time they clip your wing like in Forza 3. I hope the career mode is better, I got SO bored playing it I never completed the last one.
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As long as people continue to spout false information and deny the assist exists in the face of solid evidence, no, I won't "put a lid on it." Also, if you had actually READ my posts instead of coming in here bitching at me in a blind rage, you'd realize the issue is the GAME'S fault, not the wheel. There's nothing Fanatec can do to their wheel to fix the problem. The problem is 100% how the game decides to recognize and interpret the input from the wheel. If you wanted me to put a lid on it, maybe you shouldn't have engaged me in another argument.
 
Mr Latte
So WHAT are people ENJOYING about the demo. Anyone some GOOD things to say, are YOUR impressions good/mixed/bad?

Ive only played with the pad briefly (although on the new projector @ 150" screen) :)
For me this is a big step up over FM3 in many ways and thats a good thing. The AI actually seem pretty quick too which aside from the superb graphics and audio is very much welcomed.

This really as a complete racing game could hammer GT5.
What seems by far easily T10s best work to date.
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Improved visuals, improved handling, massively improved and nuanced ffb, improved sound, it's a hugely enjoyable and rewarding driving experience. I think it's great and a huge step from FM3.
 
Body roll seems more prevalent Mr Latte.
Nice to see smoke in your mirrors, gives a good volumetric impression too from there.
Damage seems more localised.
Mechanical damage actually turns your wheel via FF and you have to counter steer.
Rivals mode is very good.
Forcefeed back I'm very impressed with. Although rumble strip effects could be amplified more. My Fanatec FF setting is 40. Shock settings doesn't seem to do much.
Sounds are good.

Overall a nice update except for you know what. Lol.

At least the serious players are aware of it's issues and can choose to avoid a purchase. So that should keep most happy.
 
buttsneeze
As long as people continue to deny the assist exists in the face of solid evidence, no, I won't "put a lid on it."
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Just ignore them. Why do you feel the need to prove it to them? Your coming across as desperate and very aggressive. Discuss it with posters like me, who admit it's there and want to get to the bottom of why and how it's implemented. If some people disagree with you, let them, if you ignore their posts and don't respond that'll be the end of it. Those of us who do want to accept it and discuss it can then get on with doing that.
 
buttsneeze
As long as people continue to spout false information and deny the assist exists in the face of solid evidence, no, I won't "put a lid on it."
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This thing is you keep replying to people like myself that have already acknowledged, and gone out and replicated it, as if we are somehow dismissing it.. When we are trying to add information/ideas

It sounds like you have found this issue, come to a conclusion based on your limited evidence about exactly what it is, and when we try and present more information to get a better handle on it, you have drawn up the shutters and just keep repeating the same thing over and over.. just chill out, we believe you!!

Mr Latte
So WHAT are people ENJOYING about the demo. Anyone some GOOD things to say, are YOUR impressions good/mixed/bad?

Ive only played with the pad briefly (although on the new projector @ 150" screen) :)
For me this is a big step up over FM3 in many ways and thats a good thing. The AI actually seem pretty quick too which aside from the superb graphics and audio is very much welcomed.

This really as a complete racing game could hammer GT5.
What seems by far easily T10s best work to date.
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Loving it so far..
The physics (Zonda Challenge as my reference) are very engaging, lots of layers of stuff going on that makes for a very natural and immersive experience, the way weight transfer over the crests feels is really nice.
The graphics are a nice little step on from FM3, and the sense of speed is insane at times..
The audio is another nice step up.

The only negatives would be the 30fps mirrors (find it distracting when I do glance in them, I might turn them off in the full game), and if I was being critical, a slight softness to the cars as they progressively let go.
 
Most of the hardcore racers play iRacing and wouldn't bother to complain about the... we know what...
I like iRacing, I like very much GT5. I never owned Forza or XBOX before but I'm planning to whether the issue is fixed or not, because for me FM4 is first of all an eye candy, something that other games fail to deliver.
Autovista alone is worth the money, as I don't want just drive the cars I also want to enjoy the beauty. The brain feeds through eyes, remember? :)

anyways, there will always be those who complain and this is good as it helps to improve things even further.
 
Ahhh see their are plenty of things to discus and be happy over, rather than getting locked into a debate over "steering assist".

Does the Fanatec wheels offer much rumble with kerbs lads or changes in surfaces?
Been busy at work and only tried with pad..
 
Mr Latte
Ahhh see their are plenty of things to discus and be happy over, rather than getting locked into a debate over "steering assist".

Does the Fanatec wheels offer much rumble with kerbs lads or changes in surfaces?
Been busy at work and only tried with pad..
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I haven't noticed a great deal of rumble but they certainly upset the car and that is very nicely felt through the ffb. If you get to much kerb it really does affect the car and usually results in you running wide on exit. This is particularly noticeable on the last two corners of the Zonda hotlap.
 
amar212
Okay, this is pretty much a final nail in the coffin of this particular discussion :lol:

MrDeap from VVV just posted this video in the official FM forums in the thread regarding linearity assist discussion:



Guy drives in FM4 Demo Simulation mode - without ANY assists - with The official Street Fighter IV Tournament Edition arcade stick.

I really and forever rest my case here :lol: :)
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I'm not really sure what this adds to the current discussion Amar. Plenty of people have been able to play racing games with the dpad on a controller over the years.

And why don't you appear on the Zonda leaderboard? I accepted your friend request this morning but you didn't appear in my friends list on the leaderboard. Are you going to set a time?
 
Mr Latte
Ahhh see their are plenty of things to discus and be happy over, rather than getting locked into a debate over "steering assist".

Does the Fanatec wheels offer much rumble with kerbs lads or changes in surfaces?
Been busy at work and only tried with pad..
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I guess you shouldn't be worried about wheel rumble with all tactile you have 👍 :)
 
Mr Latte
For me its a game, its purpose is to entertain me.
Is it nice looking, visually impressive, does the sound immerse me, is the handling fun and can the game offer a level of challenge and required skill set?

I dont expect or really believe a console game will ever offer the levels of sim perfection some people on these forums seem to expect. Gees just go out and play enjoy the damn game why the need to analyse it in such detail. Of course its going to have issues and faults particulary if people go out looking for them.

Maybe I should come round some of your houses and when you crash I smash you over the head with a local telephone directory just for added simulation. :)
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100% agree
 
PzR Slim
I'm not really sure what this adds to the current discussion Amar. Plenty of people have been able to play racing games with the dpad on a controller over the years.

And why don't you appear on the Zonda leaderboard? I accepted your friend request this morning but you didn't appear in my friends list on the leaderboard. Are you going to set a time?
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Point is that video just shows how Simulation mode have extremely tolerant point-of-turn for the wheel that can be controlled with stick-input with magnificent precision.

Which really puts in question everything regarding usage of the wheel to play when you can be more efficient with such small moves of the stick. Linearity with this stick is perfect and - as I understand - just shows how we are all crazy to drive with the wheels :)

As for my Zonda time - I should be there, yesterday I managed to achieve a pretty good and fast clean lap - I really do not know why you don't see me? I will be driving later today, maybe I have to logon in order to server synchronize us?
 
PzR Slim
I'm not really sure what this adds to the current discussion Amar. Plenty of people have been able to play racing games with the dpad on a controller over the years.
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Very true. I used to be a tapper, (direction pad) over a stick user before my wheel days.
 
For me it's not hard enough, it took quite some effort to spin the zonda with no traction or stability control. That car in 2nd flat out would almost certainly break traction in high revs.
 
Alex.
For me it's not hard enough, it took quite some effort to spin the zonda with no traction or stability control. That car in 2nd flat out would almost certainly break traction in high revs.
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And you know this because you have drove one?
 
Alex.
For me it's not hard enough, it took quite some effort to spin the zonda with no traction or stability control. That car in 2nd flat out would almost certainly break traction in high revs.
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I break traction in most gears in the Zonda if I don't drive carefully. A perfect example being the first corner. Change down to third. If you then just floor the throttle you will lose the back end. Same happens on most corners such as the corner before the tunnel or the long sweeper before going back up the hill. If you floor the throttle you have to very carefully balance how much steering input you put in so as to counteract the loss of rear end grip. Do you use a wheel or pad?
 
I use a pad and had everything off and set to simulation, I didn't have any issues with the car 'not' breaking traction - the Zonda and the Ferrari both light up the tyres with ease (i'm not talking about from a standing start either)and if not concentrating are both easy to get out of control.
 
Mr Latte
For me its a game, its purpose is to entertain me.
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Maybe I should come round some of your houses and when you crash I smash you over the head with a local telephone directory just for added simulation.
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agreed & lol'd 👍
 
I played this demo for a couple hours last night. Just when I thought F3 really couldnt get a whole lot better, it did! The physics are a night and day improvement over F1, F2, and F3. This really feels like a brand new game. Like a true sequal to the series. Just about everything is improved, well besides damage. Damage modeling still doesnt seem all that great but thats not too big of a deal to me. The AI, the audio, physics, traction, graphics, everything is improved.

Rivals mode is definetly the highlight of this demo. So dang fun and so addictive. The Zonda sounds and drives incredible!! That Zonda sounded crazy awesome especially at high rpms. I was actually sweating during some of those races trying to chase down my rival. Just a complete adrenaline rush!!!
:dopey::drool:

I use the interior view and noticed the Cougar sounds a LOT better if you use the bumper cam or hood view. That thing sounds awesome. Most of the other cars sound about the same inside and out so I would suggest experimenting with different views if you want to hear different audio tones.

Overall very happy with the demo. Such a huge improvement from F3 and I still think F3 is a very good game. Looking forward to F4 next week. Especially this new rivals mode.
 
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I've try yesterday...mmmm...
ferrari 458 cockpit view is not good...bmw M5 has a better realization.
the noise of the car is the same as FM3 also no change if you use cockpit view or external view...
the track is absolutely EASY...no one difficult turn and also is extremely large...seems to be an autobahn!!!
the only thing has impress me is the graphic of the track...the mountains looks soo beautiful.
for the rest nothing special, GT5 is better for me.
I hope the full game with all the personalizations of the cars looks better.
 

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