Forza 4 Demo Thread

[Fredde_swe]

How did you come to that conclusion mate?

I don't know about the full game, but in the demo I took out the Cougar, burned some rubber for a couple of minutes and when I later checked the tire wear it was like 2-3%.

 

[Scaff]

Well I had a total nightmare getting the demo yesterday.

With it sat in my queue it should have been a case of just switching on the 360 and waiting, until my broadband picked then to crap out.

Managed over the course of 3 hours to download it in bit and pieces and then have a quick go at the single races (was not able to try Rivals as I couldn't keep a connection long enough).

Broadband seemed fine this morning before I left for work, so fingers crossed I can actually have a real go tonight (no to mention that no broadband means no BF3 beta and that makes me a sad bunny).


Scaff

 

[Moglet]

I had no idea a demo was out! I'll be downloading it later, and enjoying it with a pad without worrying about teeny steering assist issues. Some people need to go outside and realise there's a whole world out there to explore and that steering assists aren't really important at all if the game is still fun!

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Well I had a total nightmare getting the demo yesterday.

With it sat in my queue it should have been a case of just switching on the 360 and waiting, until my broadband picked then to crap out.

Managed over the course of 3 hours to download it in bit and pieces and then have a quick go at the single races (was not able to try Rivals as I couldn't keep a connection long enough).

Broadband seemed fine this morning before I left for work, so fingers crossed I can actually have a real go tonight (no to mention that no broadband means no BF3 beta and that makes me a sad bunny).


Scaff

Something was going on for sure with Rivals mode yesterday around 7:00 EST. I was able to do 1 challenge,then after that it didnt work for a couple hours. Kept getting "Forza 4 server is unavailable". Plus something is going on with xboxlive for sure. I am not getting party chat invites or game invites half the time. So its not just you, something is going on with xboxlive again for sure. It was messing up over the weekend too. Later that night rivals mode started working again and was a blast!

I had no idea a demo was out! I'll be downloading it later, and enjoying it with a pad without worrying about teeny steering assist issues. Some people need to go outside and realise there's a whole world out there to explore and that steering assists aren't really important at all if the game is still fun!

Make sure you check out Rivals mode. Its the highlight of the demo for sure. Especially the Zonda race and the BMW race.
-oops sorry for dble post. I thought it was an edit.

 

[shawtyoner]

Man I am loving it! Cars feel so much better, granted I am still waiting for my Fanatec to come, so I have been using the controller, however still feels much improved over FM3. Graphics and lighting are like whoa! Sounds are great, the crashing sound is a little OTT in my opinion but I could care less about that. Rivals mode is so awesome, such a great addition, gonna be spending a lot of time in that once real version comes out.

The track is great, seeing it in videos over and over, it seemed kind of straight forward, but once you are driving on it, it's a lot trickier than it looks. Super fast and hard to get the apexes right. I am really psyched for final version, one more week!!

 

[HBK]

So WHAT are people ENJOYING about the demo. Anyone some GOOD things to say, are YOUR impressions good/mixed/bad?

Everything in the demo is plain ****ing awesome. Love it.

Of course there are some minor gripes like the lack of options (tweak sound and music volumes, customize HUD, no headtracking). But these are just because, you know, it's a freakin' demo

And the permanent "steering assist" which has supposedly been removed except ... not.

But everything else is looking like FM4 will be the best "car game" ever.

Edit :

Improved visuals, improved handling, massively improved and nuanced ffb, improved sound, it's a hugely enjoyable and rewarding driving experience. I think it's great and a huge step from FM3.

Very much my opinion.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

The only problem I had is that the demo seems dark at points especially the interior. I am guessing its probably my HDTV. I will have to work with the TV settings again for F4.

 

[PzR Slim]

The only problem I had is that the demo seems dark at points especially the interior. I am guessing its probably my HDTV. I will have to work with the TV settings again for F4.

Those lucky enough to have a green disc have confirmed that there is the option to adjust brightness/gamma/contrast in the full release.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Those lucky enough to have a green disc have confirmed that there is the option to adjust brightness/gamma/contrast in the full release.

Oh that is GREAT news. That was one of my complaints with F3 was that I could not adjust anything IN GAME. I had to adjust my HDTV but still had issues with the darkness of the game. Having in game adjustment will be greatly appreciated. 👍

 

[HBK]

The only problem I had is that the demo seems dark at points especially the interior. I am guessing its probably my HDTV. I will have to work with the TV settings again for F4.

It's most likely because of the high-contrast track.

Also, I don't know which demo some people have been playing, but in my version losing traction happens very quickly if you're not "gentle" with the steering. And it's not exactly easy to recover (even if, admittedly, it's may not be as hard as it should be).

Much improvement over FM3 👍

 

[shawtyoner]

It's most likely because of the high-contrast track.

Also, I don't know which demo some people have been playing, but in my version losing traction happens very quickly if you're not "gentle" with the steering. And it's not easy to recover (even if admittedly not as hard as it should be).

Much improvement over FM3 👍

Agreed, keeping car in control is much more of an effort.

 

[HBK]

I think a simple way of describing it would be that the cars feel much more "alive" than in FM3, where admittedly they could feel a bit "tame".

 

[RetroGiant]

Played the demo last night for a bit, had a real good time. Contrast is really deep but that will be adjustable in the full game. It was really fun, plus photomode is looking to be real nice this year. Can't wait!

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Just sitting down with the demo now; have run the Cougar and STI, but not the 458. Once I'm back home I'll be checking out Rivals mode too. I'm using a pad, but the only assist I have is straight manual shifting, no clutch. So far I'm really enjoying it - I don't get comments about the game being super-grippy, because, at least in the two cars I've used, they will swing their tails out over 100mph with only slight provocation, which is a welcome surprise. It's also a tremendously pretty game, specifically this new Alps track, anyways - looks fantastic on a decent screen!

I'm still getting comfortable with using the 360 controller over the DS3, so my lap times are embarassingly slow - couldn't even pass the RX-7 with the STI. I won't be much of a threat once we're all racing online .

Excited to see what Photomode is like, since I can't say I'm a huge fan of FM3's compared to GT5, though that's probably just familiarity speaking on my behalf at this point. Still don't even know my way around the 360 system itself too much, after all.

 

[HBK]

I don't get comments about the game being super-grippy, because, at least in the two cars I've used, they will swing their tails out over 100mph with only slight provocation, which is a welcome surprise.

👍

We'll have to see how cars behave after upgrades though. But that's a story for another time

 

[PzR Slim]

I think a simple way of describing it would be that the cars feel much more "alive" than in FM3, where admittedly they could feel a bit "tame".

Thats a good description. I hadn't played anything but the FM4 demo from when I got it on Saturday until last night when I took part in my weekly GT5 comp. I was pleasantly surprised how close the two felt. I'd still give the crown to GT5 for the best handling but FM4 has massively stepped upto the plate and is snapping at it's heels.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Excited to see what Photomode is like, since I can't say I'm a huge fan of FM3's compared to GT5, though that's probably just familiarity speaking on my behalf at this point. Still don't even know my way around the 360 system itself too much, after all.

FM3 allows you to take a photo any time anywhwere you want during the campaign. GT5 would only allow you to take a photo after your race was finished in the campaign and then you were not able to rewind the replay. So if you were on lap 3 and missed your shot, you had to start the replay over. That sucked.

F3 allows you to rewind and do anything you want to get the perfect shot. Or at any time during the race in the campaign you can just hit pause, go to photomode, and take a picture. Then instantly upload it to the forza site for others to view. And you could also put it into your file share from there. Its a lot better than the GT5 photo mode. Not talking about Photo travel, just the photomode while racing. So if you didnt use the F3 photomode much, then you missed out big time. It was and is miles ahead of the GT5 in game photo mode.

 

[RetroGiant]

FM3 allows you to take a photo any time anywhwere you want during the campaign. GT5 would only allow you to take a photo after your race was finished in the campaign and then you were not able to rewind the replay. So if you were on lap 3 and missed your shot, you had to start the replay over. That sucked.

F3 allows you to rewind and do anything you want to get the perfect shot. Or at any time during the race in the campaign you can just hit pause, go to photomode, and take a picture. Then instantly upload it to the forza site for others to view. And you could also put it into your file share from there. Its a lot better than the GT5 photo mode. Not talking about Photo travel, just the photomode while racing. So if you didnt use the F3 photomode much, then you missed out big time. It was and is miles ahead of the GT5 in game photo mode.

Actual picture quality sucked though due to compression. But this year looks light years better in every aspect.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Actual picture quality sucked though due to compression. But this year looks light years better in every aspect.

That is true. The pic that was uploaded to the site never looked anywhere near as good as the game. I really do wish we could just transfer the pics onto the USB but oh well. I guess T10 and Microsoft dont want everyone to see how great F3 or F4 really look.

Still concerned about the F4 pics. Some look great and some look terrible. So its still having compression issues for sure. Because the demo looked WAY better than the pics that have been posted from the site.

 

[PzR Slim]

That is true. The pic that was uploaded to the site never looked anywhere near as good as the game. I really do wish we could just transfer the pics onto the USB but oh well. I guess T10 and Microsoft dont want everyone to see how great F3 or F4 really look.

Still concerned about the F4 pics. Some look great and some look terrible. So its still having compression issues for sure. Because the demo looked WAY better than the pics that have been posted from the site.

Could be the difference between a normal upload and a big shot upload.

 

[Symtex]

Buttsneeze :

so that we are on the same page : What kinda of high performance car have you driven on track in real life ?

Every modern car has some for of assist in the steering. Only car like F1 have direct input to the wheel. Everything else is power steering assist. On my car, I can even change the steering mode I want : Sport, Comfort or Standard.

Traction control and ABS is so effective that they took it out of F1. So please don't tell me I can't be competitive if I have them on while I drive.

Note : I drove a 2012 Mustang V6 with PP package (305hp - 280lb torque).

 

[RetroGiant]

That is true. The pic that was uploaded to the site never looked anywhere near as good as the game. I really do wish we could just transfer the pics onto the USB but oh well. I guess T10 and Microsoft dont want everyone to see how great F3 or F4 really look.

Still concerned about the F4 pics. Some look great and some look terrible. So its still having compression issues for sure. Because the demo looked WAY better than the pics that have been posted from the site.

Yea, but at least they are giving us the "Big Photo" option that has no compression. May be a hassle though since you can only have a few of them at a time. I definitely agree about the USB.

 

[desperado]

Thats a good description. I hadn't played anything but the FM4 demo from when I got it on Saturday until last night when I took part in my weekly GT5 comp. I was pleasantly surprised how close the two felt. I'd still give the crown to GT5 for the best handling but FM4 has massively stepped upto the plate and is snapping at it's heels.

Wish I could get GT5 to feel as good as the majority but with my Fanatec GT2 it saws all over the place when trying to drive in a straight line. I've used settings from this site and others to tone it down but its still there (albeit gently enough for me too fight it off!). Very annoying, tend to play GT5 with a pad!

Forza 4 however feedback is great! Really impressed!

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Buttsneeze :

so that we are on the same page : What kinda of high performance car have you driven on track in real life ?

Every modern car has some for of assist in the steering. Only car like F1 have direct input to the wheel. Everything else is power steering assist. On my car, I can even change the steering mode I want : Sport, Comfort or Standard.

Traction control and ABS is so effective that they took it out of F1. So please don't tell me I can't be competitive if I have them on while I drive.

Note : I drove a 2012 Mustang V6 with PP package (305hp - 280lb torque).

You should quote the person that your reply is directed at. Who is that directed at?? I dont seen anyone named Buttsneeze.

 

[Symtex]

You should quote the person that your reply is directed at. Who is that directed at?? I dont seen anyone named Buttsneeze.

Go back to page 32....

 

[HBK]

I was pleasantly surprised how close the two felt. I'd still give the crown to GT5 for the best handling but FM4 has massively stepped upto the plate and is snapping at it's heels.

Agreed.

 

[eric1971]

Only spent a short time with the demo last night but liked what I saw so far. Driving physics are much improved over previous Forza games as others have said. I did have some problems with being bumped and blocked by AI drivers. Much more of a problem when driving the 458, as this usually induced a spin. I don't think I ran a single clean lap with the Ferrari. Car models and interiors are improved, however still not on the same level as the GT5 "premium" cars. Lighting and colors are still too bright, leaning more towards "beautifully drawn" vice "photo realistic". AI drivers were very competitive on the Hard setting. My first two completed races (restarted a couple times due to spins/crashes) produced a 3rd and 2nd place finish driving the 458 and the STI respectively.

Looking forward to getting more time with the demo and the full game on Tuesday.

Played using the Fanatec GT2 w/ Clubsport pedals, Playseat EVO, and Olevia 37" LCD.

 

[barryl85]

the noise of the car is the same as FM3 also no change if you use cockpit view or external view...

Your the only person thats mentioned the sound being the same - its totally different and a great improvement (why mention the sound if your so in love with GT5 - which IMO has the worst sound of any racer period).

the track is absolutely EASY...no one difficult turn and also is extremely large...seems to be an autobahn!!!

I like the track its different from the normal circuits we are used to seeing in these console sims.

for the rest nothing special, GT5 is better for me.
I hope the full game with all the personalizations of the cars looks better.

WTF dude? Its a demo with one track and 5 cars its not a prologue nor a full release nor did it cost a penny.

What are you expecting from it? I think it looks 100x better than GT5 as far as consistency goes (no screen tearing and no lego built shadows).

 

[HBK]

Buttsneeze :

so that we are on the same page : What kinda of high performance car have you driven on track in real life ?

Every modern car has some for of assist in the steering. Only car like F1 have direct input to the wheel. Everything else is power steering assist. On my car, I can even change the steering mode I want : Sport, Comfort or Standard.

Traction control and ABS is so effective that they took it out of F1. So please don't tell me I can't be competitive if I have them on while I drive.

Note : I drove a 2012 Mustang V6 with PP package (305hp - 280lb torque).

Do not confuse power steering with steering assistance. I'm no expert on current steering devices but I'm pretty sure the steering wheel is still mechanically tied to the front wheels (meaning they are directly tied). You just have a power assistance on top of it (which can be adjusted in some cars, as you pointed out).

 

[zr1chris]

I break traction in most gears in the Zonda if I don't drive carefully.

Hey man, I noticed you beat my time after I had just beat yours last night. Good lap. How much more do you think you can get out there?