Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

[nukleabomb]

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I love this Impala, it looks really cool.
However, this car is equipped with an 1100hp engine.
Is it possible to use this car in the S1 class with slick tires and AWD conversion?

If it ends up in the S2 class, this car will probably continue to collect dust in the garage.
I really don't think this car will reach S2/998.

I wish all these cars came stock with all the movie modifications as upgrade options.
The impala and the 2 chargers would have been great alternative for the stock game cars.

 

[Populuxe]

A lot of fun returning cars in this double update. I’m especially looking forward to the four classic sports cars being added to the auto show, and the 280SL and Dino. I’m mostly ¯\(ツ)/¯ about the F&F content. I’ve never been a fan, but it sells, so why not.

 

[TGR55]

After layering the images, it's clearly showing that the second secret santa car thumbnail is definitely the "null car" that PG has used since FH3. so it is just a placeholder image.

After more digging, this image also showed up on parts manufacturers. So i guess there is parts on the car that you can equip/unequip?? The text string for this manufacturer is "Universal Studios Fast and Furious"

 

[-Fred-]

So, according to Fast X lore:

Isabel drove this car when she participated in street races in Rio de Janeiro. She chose to put an RB26 engine into the car so it could handle the amount of boost.

The turbos on an RB26(any RB really) are on the other side of the engine...

It's not even PG's fault, the car is actually like that in the movie, but it's actually got an LS or something under the hood.

 

[WanganDream]

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After more digging, this image also showed up on parts manufacturers. So i guess there is parts on the car that you can equip/unequip?? The text string for this manufacturer is "Universal Studios Fast and Furious"

Perhaps a removal option for the bumper or rear spoiler?

 

[GBalao888]

So:

• 4x FH4 cars added to the autoshow in December
• 4x playlist cars in December
• 2x secret santa cars in December
• 5x Fast X car pack DLC cars in December
• 8x playlist cars in January

The total # unique cars (not including promo specials) is currently 776.
By the end of December season we'll be on 791.
By the end of January season we'll be on 799.

The true number would be 752 cars with whatever we have now.

Spoiler: Cars that aren't actually cars

1. 2018 Apollo Intensa Emozione “Welcome Pack”
2. 2011 BMW X5 M Forza Edition
3. 1953 Chevrolet Corvette Forza Edition
4. 2013 Dodge SRT Viper GTS Anniversary Edition
5. 1969 Dodge Charger R/T Forza Edition
6. 2018 Exomotive Exocet Off-Road Forza Edition
7. 2020 Ford #2069 Ford Bronco R “Welcome Pack"
8. 1999 Ford Racing Puma Forza Edition
9. 1994 Ford Supervan 3 Donut Media Edition
10. 2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento Forza Edition
11. 2010 Maserati Gran Turismo S Forza Edition
12. 2015 Mercedes-Benz #24 Tankpool 24 Racing Truck Forza Edition
13. 1998 Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK GTR Forza Edition
14. 1971 Meyers Manx Forza Edition
15. 1965 Mini Cooper S Forza Edition
16. 1953 Morris Minor 1000 Forza Edition
17. 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR “Welcome Pack”
18. 2003 Nissan Fairlady Z Forza Edition
19. 2016 Pagani Huayra BC “Forza Edition”
20. 1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA Forza Edition
21. 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S “Welcome Pack”
22. 2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS Forza Edition
23. 1998 Toyota Supra RZ “Welcome Pack”
24. 1963 Volkswagen Beetle Forza Edition

So by the end of January, we will have 775 cars, just 11 shy of Forza Motorsport 7's car list.

 

[pez2k]

After more digging, this image also showed up on parts manufacturers. So i guess there is parts on the car that you can equip/unequip?? The text string for this manufacturer is "Universal Studios Fast and Furious"

Every manufacturer gets added to that list, as it used to be used to brand all of the stock parts until FM4. They don't get removed either, which is why FH5 has placeholder images for brands like Hirsch, who do Saab tuning parts, and Panoz, who haven't had a car featured in 12 years. What it suggests to me is that those cars will be grouped under a FNF brand instead of Dodge / Chevy etc., like the James Bond cars were in FH4 and the Hoonigan cars still are.

 

[GBalao888]

I'm hearing in Twitter that the second Secret Santa gift car would be the Aston Martin Valkyrie.

 

[INEEDNAWZZZ]

So, according to Fast X lore:

The turbos on an RB26(any RB really) are on the other side of the engine...

It's not even PG's fault, the car is actually like that in the movie, but it's actually got an LS or something under the hood.

Donut did a featurette on the cars of Fast X when the movie released, and they immediately pointed out the turbo was on the wrong side. Ten movies in, and they’re still hoping people who aren’t massive car nuts will be watching. That said, a wrong turbo placement is the last thing to be worrying about when it comes the FF movies.

 

[RolexGTP]

The true number would be 752 cars with whatever we have now.

Spoiler: Cars that aren't actually cars

1. 2018 Apollo Intensa Emozione “Welcome Pack”
2. 2011 BMW X5 M Forza Edition
3. 1953 Chevrolet Corvette Forza Edition
4. 2013 Dodge SRT Viper GTS Anniversary Edition
5. 1969 Dodge Charger R/T Forza Edition
6. 2018 Exomotive Exocet Off-Road Forza Edition
7. 2020 Ford #2069 Ford Bronco R “Welcome Pack"
8. 1999 Ford Racing Puma Forza Edition
9. 1994 Ford Supervan 3 Donut Media Edition
10. 2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento Forza Edition
11. 2010 Maserati Gran Turismo S Forza Edition
12. 2015 Mercedes-Benz #24 Tankpool 24 Racing Truck Forza Edition
13. 1998 Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK GTR Forza Edition
14. 1971 Meyers Manx Forza Edition
15. 1965 Mini Cooper S Forza Edition
16. 1953 Morris Minor 1000 Forza Edition
17. 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR “Welcome Pack”
18. 2003 Nissan Fairlady Z Forza Edition
19. 2016 Pagani Huayra BC “Forza Edition”
20. 1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA Forza Edition
21. 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S “Welcome Pack”
22. 2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS Forza Edition
23. 1998 Toyota Supra RZ “Welcome Pack”
24. 1963 Volkswagen Beetle Forza Edition

So by the end of January, we will have 775 cars, just 11 shy of Forza Motorsport 7's car list.

Best believe we will be hitting 800 cars in no time which will officially be the largest car roster in all of forza history. I dont even think FM23 will surpass it but I could be wrong if they plan to add cars beyond 3 years from now. 300+ cars is a lot to add to a game though

 

[skazz]

Best believe we will be hitting 800 cars in no time which will officially be the largest car roster in all of forza history. I dont even think FM23 will surpass it but I could be wrong if they plan to add cars beyond 3 years from now. 300+ cars is a lot to add to a game though

FH4 ended with 752 'unique' cars.
FM7 ended with 834 'unique' cars. Which did include some duplicate race cars like Formula E or V8 Supercars with differing liveries.

So no, there's still a way to go before FH5 overtakes FM7 in terms of total 'unique' cars in the roster.

 

[Stray Cat]

Thanks to @aeqnx, this should sum both series up well in terms of cars added.

As for new cars...

Is the 2022 BRZ much different from the BRZ we currently have?

New Morgan - interesting.

Lotus 340R - wow that looks stupid unusual

The four auto show cars - nice, particularly the Aston Martin and the Porsche.

Fast X car pack - Couldn't care less about the flip car, and not crazy about the Hellcat Redeye. The Z, like all classic Zs, is interesting, as is the Impala. I like classic Chargers, but we already have some that are virtually identical to this one. Unfortunately I haven't found enough to like in any of the car packs so far to actually spend money on them.

Community Choice cars first four - Eh...don't care, nice, don't care, ooo, a crap car that can be heavily modified for all sorts of purposes!
Community Choice cars second four - don't care, don't care, don't care, see comments about 280 SL

I'm just not a fan of the super high end cars of the past 20 years or so, I guess. I definitely don't have as much fun with them in-game as I do with the lower end cars.

 

[GBalao888]

FH4 ended with 752 'unique' cars.
FM7 ended with 834 'unique' cars.

So no, there's still a way to go before FH5 overtakes FM7 in terms of total 'unique' cars in the roster.

FM7 ended with 785 unique cars. This does not include any Forza editions, of which there are 49 of them.

That means ten more cars before FH5 overtakes FM7.

FH4 on the other hand, ended with 712 unique cars, as 25 are Forza editions, seven of which are pre-order cars and eight of which are "Welcome Pack" cars.

Best believe we will be hitting 800 cars in no time which will officially be the largest car roster in all of forza history. I dont even think FM23 will surpass it but I could be wrong if they plan to add cars beyond 3 years from now. 300+ cars is a lot to add to a game though

Give it two more years and FM8 will get there.

 

[Turboteg90]

I think im more excited about the new Z06 sound then any of the stuff added 😅😅😅

 

[PJTierney]

If the Flip Car actually flipped cars it could be a fun addition, but would probably need to be banned from Horizon Open if that were to be the case.

 

[UKMikey]

If the Flip Car actually flipped cars it could be a fun addition, but would probably need to be banned from Horizon Open if that were to be the case.

I'm not sure... a single make event would be flippin' awesome.

 

[Famine]

If the Flip Car actually flipped cars it could be a fun addition, but would probably need to be banned from Horizon Open if that were to be the case.

Press L3 to pay respects.

 

[GBalao888]

Is the update even live yet? Seems like I'm still in the previous version. (Xbox Series X)

 

[skazz]

Is the update even live yet? Seems like I'm still in the previous version. (Xbox Series X)

Not yet on PC either. Should be soon.

 

[nukleabomb]

FH5 Release Notes: December 5th, 2023​

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https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/23728631106835

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We're constantly working to improve the experience in Forza Horizon 5. Below you will find a summary of items fixed or improved upon in this update.




Release Notes - Winter Wonderland / Community Choice

New Features (Available from December 5th)

• 4 Cars added to the Autoshow (Will also be available through the #Forzathon shop during Winter Wonderland Series)
  • 1953 Jaguar C-Type
  • 1958 Aston Martin DBR1
  • 1966 Porsche 906 Carrera 6
  • 1970 Ferrari 512 S
• 24 EventLab Props
  • Racing props featuring curbs, race barriers and brake markers
  • Winter Wonderland decorations featuring Trees, Igloo, Houses and Chimneys
• 3 Winter Wonderland Accolades
• 2 Car Collector Accolades
• 1 Semi-Permanent Road Racing Route: Winter Wonderland Circuit
  • Available in Rivals from Dec 5th, can be found around the Stadium as a standalone race from Dec 7th
  • Permanent after the Winter Wonderland Series, will be available exclusively during Winter seasons in the following Series
• 1 Badge - Own 800 unique cars

"Winter Wonderland" Limited Timed Series Features (Available from December 7th until January 4th)

• Secret Santa returns with 2 exclusive cars unlocked based on the player's effort in sending gifts to each other (#Forzathon gifts and/or Car gift drop)
• Evolving World: Winter Wonderland Stadium, decorations and returning Snowmen collectible
• Forzathon Shop Gifts - Players can purchase one Forzathon shop car per week and send it as a gift to another player
• Forzathon Shop Sales featuring some previously exclusive Festival Playlist reward cars: Dec 24th 2:30 PM UTC - Dec 26th 2:30 PM UTC, Dec 31st 2:30 PM UTC - Jan 2nd 2:30 PM UTC
• 4 Weeks of Winter

Five “Fast X Car Pack” cars (Available from December 5th - Not included with the Forza Horizon 5 Car Pass, Standard, Deluxe or Premium Editions)

• 1966 Fast and Furious Chevrolet Impala Super Sport ‘Fast X’
• 1970 Fast and Furious Dodge Charger ‘Fast X’
• 1973 Fast and Furious Datsun 240Z ‘Fast X’
• 2022 Fast and Furious Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat Redeye Widebody ‘Fast X’
• 2022 Fast and Furious Flip Car 2.0 ‘Fast X’

Unlockable cars (Available from December 7th onwards)

• 4 Festival Playlist Reward Cars
  • 2000 Lotus 340R
  • 2009 Lotus-2-Eleven
  • 2019 Morgan Aero GT
  • 2022 Subaru BRZ
• 2 Secret Santa Reward Cars (based on Community collective effort in filling the Secret Santa bar by sending #Forzathon gift and/or Car gift drop to each other)
  • 2022 Gordon Murray Automotive T.50
  • 2023 Aston Martin Valkyrie

"Community Choice" Limited Timed Series Features (Available from January 4th until February 1st)

• Community-chosen types of activities/rewards in the Festival Playlist
• Returning Evolving World Neon Decorations in Open World and Races
• Returning Neon Drone Show and Neon H cube collectible
• 4 Community-made liveries featured in the Festival Playlist Photo Challenge tiles
  • Week 1 Photo Challenge - Livery by “EaglezRock”
  • Week 2 Photo Challenge - Livery by “FormFirm”
  • Week 3 Photo Challenge - Livery by “NoMagix”
  • Week 4 Photo Challenge - Livery by “STEADYY”
• 2 Community-designed Badges
  • Badges designed by “soupmcpasta” (on the Forza Forums)
• 16 Returning Evolving World PR Stunts

Unlockable cars (Available from January 4th onwards)

• 8 Festival Playlist Reward Cars
  • 1969 FIAT Dino 2.0 Coupe
  • 1967 Mercedes-Benz 280 SL
  • 2006 Koeniggsegg CCX
  • 2008 Aston Martin DBS
  • 2011 McLaren 12C Coupé
  • 2012 Pagani Huayra
  • 2016 Spania GTA Spano
  • 2016 W Motors Lykhan Hypersport
• (Available from January 30th) 10 Previous Exclusive Reward cars added to the Autoshow (voted by players)
  • 1962 Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso
  • 1964 Ferrari #24 Spa 330 P4
  • 1965 Peel Trident
  • 1971 Porsche #23 917/20
  • 1990 Porsche 911 Reimagined by Singer
  • 2010 Aston Martin One-77
  • 2010 Ferrari 599XX
  • 2018 Italdesign Zerouno
  • 2021 Lamborghini Siàn Roadster
  • 2021 Rimac Nevera

Bug fixes and changes

General

• New engine audio for the 2023 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (Bug ID 3917537)
• Fixed an issue with ASL/BSL Sign Language videos not showing in Chapter 1 and 3 of Icons of Speed and Chapter 6 of Donut Media Lo-Team stories
• Fixed an issue where players were unable to auction the 2005 Ferrari FXX (Bug 3912566)
• General performance and stability fixes

PC

• (PC) Fixed an issue where 2022 BMW i4 and 2024 Czinger 21C front windows could become black, in first person view, when raining (Bug ID 3913092, 3916073)
• (PC) Improvements made with graphic performance loss while driving the 2021 Audi RS e-tron GT (Bug ID 3880392)

Cars

• Fixed an issue with the 1991 BMW M3 E30 where the intercooler upgrades with turbo were missing (Bug ID 3904815)
• Fixed an issue with the 2019 RAESR Tachyon where anti-roll bar upgrades or tuning were missing (Bug ID 3904932)
• Fixed an issue with the 2023 BMW M2 were the engine block had 0 displacement (Bug ID 3912445)
• Fixed an issue with the 2023 Meyers Manx 2.0 EV where it wasn’t possible to tune the gear ratio (Bug ID 3914984)
• Fixed an issue with the 2017 Saleen S7 LM where it wasn’t possible to paint the Sports Rear Wing (Bug ID 3915997)
• Fixed an issue with the 2017 Saleen S7 LM where the roll cage was obstructing visibility when in first person view (Bug ID 3916830)
• Fixed an issue with the 2019 Volkswagen Golf R where the roll cage was visible in all chassis options (Bug 3880073)
• Fixed an issue with the 2022 Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS where liveries weren’t applying to the hood (Bug 3916798)
• Fixed an issue with the 2024 Czinger 21 where in certain instances the explode Forzavista features were not functioning correctly (Bug 3916831)

14.3GB on Win Store
Fast X car pack is up too

 

[-Fred-]

In the picture of the announcement the "100% bar completion" is listed as a mystery vehicle, but in the text announcement they mention it's the Valkyrie...

 

[PJTierney]

Left hand not talking to right hand I guess.

 

[skazz]

A screenshot for in case they correct their mistake:

 

[Justuxful]

VALKYRIE

Now give us the AMR Pro!!!

 

[PJTierney]

Now give us the AMR Pro!!!

Ok.

 

[nukleabomb]

Ok.

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I really cant decide between this design and this:

 

[Stang616]

Welp, there it is. Official confirmation or an official 'leak.' I wonder who's getting a talking to for that one, lol.

 

[skazz]

I just won my first race in the "FAF 240Z".

Whoever shortened the names

 

[Justuxful]

Ok.

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That thing was the main reason why I got GL, I loved it there.

But since it’s coming to FM, I really hope it comes to Mexico too.

 

[nukleabomb]

The T50 has a fan sound that kicks in at about 50mph.