Forza Motorsport 4 - General Discussion

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What Version Do You Intend To Buy

  • Limited Collectors Edition

    Votes: 224 68.3%

  • Standard Edition

    Votes: 61 18.6%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 43 13.1%
  • Total voters
    328
HELLAFLUSH240SX
That makes sense.
I bought a PS3 for GT5 though.
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Back when the first Forza came out, I bought a XBox for it, in the end it didn't feel worth. Despite the fact I bought a bunch of other games, most of which I could buy for the PC which is the platform I prefer for gaming. If Forza was out for PC I would still buy it probably. At least down the road when I can get ALL of the cars without having to buy from each store, which is stupid.
 
I pre-ordered the game again anyways, at least it'll be fun even if the steering is totally retarded. Maybe they'll fix it in a patch. If you glitch the steering so it doesn't detect it's a Fanatec then the assist is gone, so I'm thinking it's a bug with the Fanatec compatibility where they forgot to turn the assist off.
 
Prosthetic
Back when the first Forza came out, I bought a XBox for it, in the end it didn't feel worth.
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I think for one game to be worth buying an entire console is expecting a little too much of said game.
 
buttsneeze
It IS accurate. If you watch a replay or go to a camera where you can see the front wheels turning there is a direct correlation between the telemetry wheel and the actual angle of the front wheels.

Also, Dan Greenawalt replied again to my Facebook message and he says he's going to look into it. This gives me a bit of a glimmer of hope.
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Great thing someone told him before release.
 
HELLAFLUSH240SX
Wait, so you think it might be a Fanatec issue?
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Well, yes, and no. It's Fanatec specific but it's 100% the fault of the game, not the wheel. The way the game detects the wheel and interprets steering input from the Fanatec is the issue.
 
buttsneeze
Well, yes, and no. It's Fanatec specific but it's 100% the fault of the game, not the wheel. The way the game detects the wheel and interprets steering input from the Fanatec is the issue.
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How did you determine it is a Fanatec specific issue? Is it different with an MS wheel?
 
zr1chris
I think for one game to be worth buying an entire console is expecting a little too much of said game.
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Which is why I'm likely not buying a 360 until they get cheaper. There is absolutely nothing a 360 has that I want and can't get on a PC which would is better in every possible way. :)
 
Thank goodness for those 48 hour gold trials. I'm typically silver-only.

I wonder what time the demo will be up.
 
zr1chris
How did you determine it is a Fanatec specific issue? Is it different with an MS wheel?
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It only happens with wheels over 270 degrees of rotation. The Fanatec is the only wheel for the Xbox 360 with more than 270 degrees of rotation. If you set the wheel to less than 270 the assist actually goes away, but then the linearity gets screwed up.
 
buttsneeze
I pre-ordered the game again anyways
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What, I thought you were exercising some good discipline there.

I've got no sympathy for you. You get what you deserve.

I expect your not going to moan about it now then.
 
Spagetti69
What, I thought you were exercising some good discipline there.

I've got no sympathy for you. You get what you deserve.

I expect your not going to moan about it now then.
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Uh, I have every right to 'moan' about a legitimate problem, especially if I paid for the game. If the steering assist is that bad I'll return it.
 
buttsneeze
It only happens with wheels over 270 degrees of rotation. The Fanatec is the only wheel for the Xbox 360 with more than 270 degrees of rotation. If you set the wheel to less than 270 the assist actually goes away, but then the linearity gets screwed up.
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What about doing the forbidden starting the console up using the wheel since that caused a rotation issue with FM3. They may have corrected that causing the opposite effect from before. Just a thought.
 
zr1chris
What about doing the forbidden starting the console up using the wheel since that caused a rotation issue with FM3. They may have corrected that causing the opposite effect from before. Just a thought.
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Done, done, and done. The linearity is so whacked out that you have to set the wheel lock to like 450 degrees or less, almost eliminating the reason I bought the wheel in the first place, which was to have 900 degrees of rotation. And no, there's no setting on the wheel or in-game that can adjust the linearity to correct the problem, only one to make it worse.
 
buttsneeze
I sent Dan Greenawalt a lengthy Facebook message explaining and proving the existence of the steering assist, and he goes and claims it's still unassisted. Great.
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Like last time with F3. Just wait until banning people from the official forum starts because mentioning the problem.
 
buttsneeze
Uh, I have every right to 'moan' about a legitimate problem, especially if I paid for the game. If the steering assist is that bad I'll return it.
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If I see something I don't like I don't buy.
I find that hard to comprehend.

Were not talking livery glitch here, were talking an issue that effects the core game

You buy it, I don't give a damn. If your going to moan about it I have no sympathy. You know what your getting.
 
Spagetti69
If I see something I don't like I don't buy.
I find that hard to comprehend.

Were not talking livery glitch here, were talking an issue that effects the core game

You buy it, I don't give a damn. If your going to moan about it I have no sympathy. You know what your getting.
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If you don't give a damn stop berating me for buying it. Also your logic makes absolutely no sense. I can only complain about something if I don't buy it?

Raitziger
Like last time with F3. Just wait until banning people from the official forum starts because mentioning the problem.
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They already set my posts to 'moderated' for no reason before I even got the demo, and they won't approve any posts I make about the steering assist, no matter how objective and respectful they are. They won't even answer my PMs asking why I was moderated or why my posts aren't being approved.
 
Sorry butsneeze, you crack on.
 
buttsneeze
Done, done, and done. The linearity is so whacked out that you have to set the wheel lock to like 450 degrees or less, almost eliminating the reason I bought the wheel in the first place, which was to have 900 degrees of rotation. And no, there's no setting on the wheel or in-game that can adjust the linearity to correct the problem, only one to make it worse.
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I had to try it after I posted that last post and your right. The wheel feels like its set to 2000° of rotation, :lol: and the shifter doesn't work as usual using that startup procedure.
 
buttsneeze
They already set my posts to 'moderated' for no reason before I even got the demo, and they won't approve any posts I make about the steering assist, no matter how objective and respectful they are. They won't even answer my PMs asking why I was moderated or why my posts aren't being approved.
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This is news material, try to contact independent gaming site or popular blog.
 
No, it isn't. I would bet he just signed up, and they moderate all new members until you prove you're not a troll or flamebaitet who made a new account for laughs. Im sure that they see these posts as flamebait so they don't allow them. Not really anything new, you agree to all of it when you click the "I accept" to sign up.
 
HighSeasHoMastr
No, it isn't. I would bet he just signed up, and they moderate all new members until you prove you're not a troll or flamebaitet who made a new account for laughs. Im sure that they see these posts as flamebait so they don't allow them. Not really anything new, you agree to all of it when you click the "I accept" to sign up.
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Been a member since 2007, and was moderated the day before I got the demo. Still don't know why.

EDIT: Here's an excellent video a member of the Forza forums made showing and explaining the assist very well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCbbkHUGOTo
 
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I hope this isn't present in the final game. Or there's a day one patch for it.



Edit: Tree'd. D'oh!

At least mine's embedded though. :sly:
 
yaywalter
I hope this isn't present in the final game. Or there's a day one patch for it.



Edit: Tree'd. D'oh!

At least mine's embedded though. :sly:
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According to Dan Greenawalt, the steering in the final game is the same as the demo. However, he says he'll "look into it"

I think we should try to make a lot of noise about this issue on the forums so we can get it fixed. There's no other way. They won't fix it unless they realize a good portion of their community is upset.
 
buttsneeze
According to Dan Greenawalt, the steering in the final game is the same as the demo. However, he says he'll "look into it"

I think we should try to make a lot of noise about this issue on the forums so we can get it fixed. There's no other way. They won't fix it unless they realize a good portion of their community is upset.
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You said that you told Dan about the assist on Facebook and he denied it? Send him a link to that video. Pretty conclusive evidence. :p
 
yaywalter
You said that you told Dan about the assist on Facebook and he denied it? Send him a link to that video. Pretty conclusive evidence. :p
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I did, a few minutes ago. He'll probably respond tomorrow.
 
That's just stupid. Simple as.

Made a thread over at FM.net; let's see if it gets locked.

Funny I never bothered to pay attention to it whilst turning a corner, I just brought up the Telemetry screen turned the wheel (moved the thumbstick) and noticed it was a lot...better. Guess that was full of 🤬, huh?
 
Terronium-12
That's just stupid. Simple as.

Made a thread over at FM.net; let's see if it gets locked.

Funny I never bothered to pay attention to it whilst turning a corner, I just brought up the Telemetry screen turned the wheel (moved the thumbstick) and noticed it was a lot...better. Guess that was full of 🤬, huh?
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The issue here is only with Fanatec wheels. I don't think it applies to controller users. Thanks for posting, though (where's your thread?)
 
I'll check and see if it does, hang on.

As for the thread it hasn't been approved yet.
 
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