[Gran Turismo 5 @ E3 2010] (SEE POST 1!: New Vids, Pics, Interviews!)

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Well how cool would it be if we could use a PSP as a rev counter display or rear view mirror?
Fat chance of it happening but heck it might help Sony sell a few more PSPs
 
So I'd have to tape a psp to the tv? lol I don't own one, I don't care for it, and the regular rear view mirror will do just fine.;)
 
I don't think you need a PSP as rear view mirror. With head tracking you can just look left and right. I myself don't have problem with it. I just look on my rear view mirror in cockpit view or bumper view if it's a tight race. You just need to adjust a little because it's almost feel like a real car when looking at it.

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It's not a few people, it's the majority. Once Forza or NFS is mentioned, there's several posters who come out just to post how amazing GT is.
So now, 6-8 people are the majority?? You're starting to sound like Che. ;)

Look, Mac, I know this is a GT forum and kids will be kids. But some of us wouldn't be so hard on M$ if it wasn't for the facts that:
  • Microsoft is a rather ruthless monopoly guilty of hostile business practices, massively overcharging on product, and manipulating the market.
  • They produced such a wretchedly designed console that for about two years, it had an almost 70% failure rate! And released it with full knowledge that large numbers of them would crap out, and refused to even acknowledge the problem until Europe evidently threatened them with a massive class action suit. Then they quickly bandaided the issue with two massive retroactive warranty upgrades within a week or so of each other. And of course only covering one, then two failures.
  • To cash in on the Gran Turismo phenomenon, they basically stole the entire concept with essentially no changes.
So, other than being rat skunks, I suppose they aren't all that bad. Kind of like the Mafia and the Obama administration. ;)

As for Forza, specifically Forza 3, while I was baffled as to why everyone was wetting themselves over the demo, F3 was a nice improvement over F2. Until we started encountering the bugs, flaws and shortcomings. I don't suppose you noticed the small revolt on the Forza forums over things like the public server fiasco. You can hardly call them a bunch of GT fanboys.

While you can certainly call me a GT fanboy - heck, I wear the flag proudly - you can hardly use that against me when I was initially very happy with the livery editor and photo mode. Until the file handling crap bit me, and I discovered how getting a pic saved to Photobucket was utter hell. Not to mention how the Forza site messes up your pics. And there are the AWD dominations, parts setting issues, poor cockpit graphics and more to anger the fans. It seems that T10 doesn't just shoot themselves in the foot, they use both barrels.

Forza 3 is a nice sim as far as racing, but I still put Prologue an inch ahead. Turns just don't feel natural, and I have to fight them in both Forza and Ferrari Challenge - you might as well call it Forza Challenge. This is something I don't have to do in Prologue or GT4. In fact, Prologue feels remarkably like GTR and Live For Speed, which since I don't see the point in leasing a racing game for hundreds of dollars, is about the best as far as recreating the racing dynamic of a car.

Well... except for GT5. The Time Trial demo feels to me better than anything I've ever experienced. While we'll have to see what the actual game offers, I'm sure that GT5 is going to set the bar for me.

I hope none of that is too irrational and fanboy drivel for you. ;)
 
GT Planet has its fair share of biased members but then what do you expect here.

Let me say that Ive not been a regular posting member here that long and have found GTP members at times less friendly and at times even less helpful towards each other than some other forums. I dont mean that to me but in general to each other. Sure plenty of arguing over silly stuff for the sake of arguing, like the recent posts here regards religion and even now X360 wise cracks. Some of us as gamers actually game for "fun" and dont have to limit ourselves to some kind of brand loyality or fanboy opinion. Its fine having a preference but I hate system bashing thats done for the wrong or silly reasons.

As for FM3 being that bad, rubbish come round to my house and play it with a Fanatec/Buttkicker/Triple screens and tell me its not a fun game.
Does it have issues, is it limited in many ways, yep certainly but it also can be fun and well thats still something I play games for, simple entertainment.
Is it a fantastic racing game sim, no as it doesnt really simulate racing as a motorsport that accurately.

As you point out in your opening statement, this is Gran Turismo PLanet.
I would expect to meet Enthusiasts of the series here. Some may be more rabid than others but I expect that also.

I've been posting here since about the time of the GT4 release.

I'm not a regular participant of many other forums so my experience is not vast in that respect. Of those I do, I havn't noticed a big difference here.

Most of my time has probably been spent in the GT4-200pt thread, wherein there is a closer comradery generally than across the board.

While there is at times some fanboyism going on here, sometimes ones preferential enthusiasm is interpreted as such.

At this point in time I would caution against too harsh a critique, since many of the posts made here carry the ever growing burden of frustration borne out of a 5+ year wait with still no release date for the next GT(5). Something I share as well. As with probably most of them, I thought we'd be playing it by now.

I play other racing games, FM3 among them and I think its a good game. I enjoy playing it. However for me it does not have the feel, flavor, and draw that GT4 has. I'll never come close to logging near the amount of hours playing it that I have in GT4. It just doesn't have the combination that produces the same appeal.

IMHO NFS Shift on the other hand was absolute crap. They didn't even bother to debug the game before they released it on the gaming public. Having said that, I would also say I thought it had the potential to be as good a game if not better than FM3, had it been debugged and polished up some. The loss of potential was more disappointing than the bouncing bugs. A game like that will be an affront to most GT players, and rightfully so. Frankly, it should be an affront to any player.

Well I was once hyped for this game. I like getting excited about brewing storms but after this time, newsbreaks aren't fun for me.

I for one wanna make it known that Sony or whoever has pushed the game back this far has lost my interest. I'm not gonna get excited about waiting to learn or hear more.

I feel the same way.

My time for all that was last year. Needless to say it was for naught.

I only want to here one thing now. Thats when I ask my local game store if they have GT5 and I hear them say "yes".

All the rest from here on out is inexplicably linked in my paranoid psyche to the Sony B*ll S*it machine.
 
I have a sneaking suspicion that all the "bickering" will cease once GT5 is released. That the threads will turn into the GT4 threads of old, and what drew me to this site and prompted me to support GTP with premium memb. SuperCJ is right. The commradery in the GT4 threads are refreshing and supportive. Which is what I expect this area to become as well. My two cents.
 
So I'd have to tape a psp to the tv?

Not if you lazily have a desk where you easily clamp the wheel like I do ;) All I'd have to do is set my PSP up against this small stand I have and voila, the cheesiest homemade dash ever :lol:
 
So now, 6-8 people are the majority?? You're starting to sound like Che. ;)
Sorry, but it's more like over 2 dozen in the last 6 months I've watched this forum continuously turn into a pool of wishful thinking & people throwing tantrums against Polyphony when they don't announce something. 50% of this forum gets let down because they build too much hype.

I wouldn't be surprised if on June 18th, a bunch of people come here complaining about the lack of info on GT.
I hope none of that is too irrational and fanboy drivel for you. ;)
It's a bunch of text that has nothing to do with my point.

I am not talking about the fanboys distaste for Forza or MS, I'm talking about their silly posts against anything non-GT. That has gone for not only Forza, but as far as rFactor, LFS, & GTR2 in the past.
So as such, MY OPINION was stated with experience. MY EXPERIENCE!! Perhaps GT5 will change my OPINION, but that is my decision to make, as it is my choice.

TRUST ME, this site and posting on forums is not the only place to look bad. I, you and everyone else can do that all on their own, any time.

In closing, you sir need to lighten up. :crazy:
Go back and throw on the reading glasses.
Fact not bashing.

This isn't fact.
GT is the king until PROVEN OTHERWISE.
You have no experience to say this. You haven't played GT5. You even admit you haven't played it's direct competitor, Forza. As far as it goes, you're just another one of these silly, biased members.
 
I remember this thread being 30 Days to go....feels like a few days ago.
E3 will be here before we know it.
 
You have no experience to say this. You haven't played GT5. You even admit you haven't played it's direct competitor, Forza. As far as it goes, you're just another one of these silly, biased members.

Looks to me like he said "GT is king". He did not say "GT5 is king". As a whole, I agree with him, and IMO no console simulation racing game has come close to the feeling GT gives me when I fire up my PS2 or PS3 to play it. And yes, I have played all the Forza games at friends houses, didn't care for them at all.

Point is, what other people have already said, this is a GT forum. You're bound to come across GT "fanboys" here. (god I hate that word) My advice to you would be to simply ignore them or just stay away from this section of the forum until the game comes out.
 
So this is a GT vs Forza thread now?
Then I guess I'll share my opinion. Forza's good, but... after playing Forza 3 for about two months then starting up GT4 again, it was a bit sad that three Forza releases after GT4's release, GT4 was still more enjoyable.
 
It's funny how it's human nature to always want something newer, better, faster, shinier, etc. Am I looking forward to GT5? You bet! 👍
Am I bored with GT5P? Nope :) Especially not if I'm having an epic online battle.

A friend of mine brought over a copy of GT2 the other day and we had a blast playing it. Sure the graphics were a bit hard on the eyes stretched across a 42" screen, but the physics were just as good as ever. It was a much more enjoyable experience than the copy of Dirt (which has some spectacular graphics) I have collecting dust is.

I'm certainly curious what E3 will bring, most importantly a release date so I know when to go to the store ;) but I can certainly wait.
 
So this is a GT vs Forza thread now?
Then I guess I'll share my opinion. Forza's good, but... after playing Forza 3 for about two months then starting up GT4 again, it was a bit sad that three Forza releases after GT4's release, GT4 was still more enjoyable.

Yep. This is kind of getting out of hand, It would be a shame if it would be closed, but... whatever.. Il go with the flow
-Funny how all 3 of those forza games added had around the same amount of cars that gt4 had ;)
 
Looks to me like he said "GT is king". He did not say "GT5 is king". As a whole, I agree with him, and IMO no console simulation racing game has come close to the feeling GT gives me when I fire up my PS2 or PS3 to play it. And yes, I have played all the Forza games at friends houses, didn't care for them at all.
Regardless of whether he said GT or GT5, it's still an opinion. There's no way to debate that.
 
So I'd have to tape a psp to the tv? lol I don't own one, I don't care for it, and the regular rear view mirror will do just fine.;)

Tako je brate. Exactly my point!
 
As for Forza, specifically Forza 3, while I was baffled as to why everyone was wetting themselves over the demo, F3 was a nice improvement over F2. Until we started encountering the bugs, flaws and shortcomings. I don't suppose you noticed the small revolt on the Forza forums over things like the public server fiasco. You can hardly call them a bunch of GT fanboys.
Spot on with that assesment because I can assure everyone many of the hardcore forza fanbase has left FM3. The racing team I belong to were created back in the Forza 1 days and they were diehard Forza fans who weren't even interested in GT5. Now im the only TRC member playing FM3 and virtually all of them are planning on buying GT5.

Let me also add that im certainly no fanboy. I've never understood the fanboy mentality because I will always play which ever racing game is the best. You certainly don't get anything for being loyal so why deprive yourself of playing the best racing game. Now obviously we don't know how good GT5 will be but lets be honest it won't be very difficult to improve on FM3. Turn 10 had a great opportunity of competiting against GT5 with FM3 but they blew that chance with a bug ridden game that is frankly a disaster.

Back on topic and the days are approaching fast to E3 and I cannot wait. Im not that bothered about how much video footage I see because all im interested in is the game content and release date.

I will finally add that during last years E3 show I knew something was a miss with FM3 due to Turn 10s arrogant presentation. Watch the video I made last year during E3 and listen to Turn 10s comments!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kTrzHwvRUk
 
Regardless of whether he said GT or GT5, it's still an opinion. There's no way to debate that.

Everything written on this forum is an opinion, or a regurgitation of somebody else's opinion of an impression of an event, or series of events, or apparent "fact". We're all slaves to our own minds.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've some eggs to suck...


EDIT @ II IVORBIGUN II - gotta love the comments on your vid, man... God bless idiots :D
 
I remember this thread being 30 Days to go....feels like a few days ago.
E3 will be here before we know it.

Yeah it sure will...

Guys can we start to compile / arrange a list of websites that are for offering thier own feeds of the event and possible video interviews....
 
Yeah it sure will...

Guys can we start to compile / arrange a list of websites that are for offering thier own feeds of the event and possible video interviews....
If my memory serves me right Gametrailers last year offered extensive coverage including a live stream from each companys presentation.

Apart from this I can only think of the usual websites i.e IGN, Gamespot.
 
There was a time ( not so long ago I have to admit ) I regarded Forza as just a GT rip-off and therefore I just ignored it.
To be honest, it wasn't until I started reading this forum my opinion started to shift and became aware of certain features within that game ( livery-editor/engine swaps, etc. ) which I found interesting and original.
I haven't played it yet, only own a PS3 and most people I know don't own an X-Box ( or even any games console ) and any judgement regarding this game as a whole to form my own opinion is therefore non-existent.

If it was a multi-platform game I would now probably give it a go ( progress eh? ) and I am being critical of GT regardless of the fact I still find it the best driving game I played until now ( yes, I do play other driving games as well ).
Competition is always a good thing and the fact that Forza exist ( whatever you may think of the game, I think it's the closest in concept to GT, rip-off or not ) only makes GT better.

But there's one thing I dislike more than an ignorant fanboy, it's those grumpy and humourless souls who constantly display superiority-complex when someone has an opinion other then their own.
 
I bought an xbox only for FM3, played 1 or 2 months and get bored... So if you got the money, try it out, if not, it´s not a must to buy an xbox360...

FM has really nice things, the best things are the porsches, I love the carrera GT. The cars sound fantastic...

But the most important thing in an racing game is the controllings and here FM (xbox) looses because they don´t support normal FF wheels...
 
Sorry for staying off topic but i said id say my bit. Had an xbox for 3 years and played forza 2 and 3 religiously. Before that on the ps2 i played all the GT games and loved them, the best thing about forza2 was the online racing it was so much fun, I never finished the career because it was useless.

Back on topic one of my big hopes for GT5 is a solid online experience that will never make the game boring or stale. Multiplayer is the way forward with gaming in my opinion.
 
So this is a GT vs Forza thread now?
No its not and as we already have one of those, this line of discussion stops right now.

Any one ignoring that will find out what formal warnings and infractions feel like.


Scaff
 
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Back on topic one of my big hopes for GT5 is a solid online experience that will never make the game boring or stale. Multiplayer is the way forward with gaming in my opinion.

I, too, hope that multiplayer is as flexible as has been hinted at. However, for me, multiplayer has been around since the dawn of gaming, so it's not really the future, so much as just another aspect of it.

I'll probably spend most of my time "soloing" my way through the career and just tinkering with and testing various cars. Any online racing I do will probably be with "actual" friends, where I can be certain of the type of competitive atmosphere. (I tend to get a bit, er, "primal"; so if someone rubs me up the wrong way...)

That's the single biggest problem with multiplayer: the :censored:s.
 
No its not and as we already have one of those, this line of discussion stops right now.

Any one ignoring that will find out what formal warnings and infractions feel like.


Scaff

:scared:

Scaff's not messing around.

Who else is excited for all the games we will be seeing at E3 and not JUST GT5? Personally, I can't wait to see Killzone 3 in actoin, and SOCOM 4, and (hopefully) Medal of Honor. I'm also really excited about Agent and Little Big Planet 2. So many awesome games that we should be seeing this year at E3, I have a feeling SONY is going to be stealing all of the spotlight from Microsoft this year. Who knows though, Microsoft might have some killer exclusive to announce that noone knows about yet, but I have a feeling E3 is going to be focusing on NATAL for Microsoft.
 
As a gamer I am also excited to see LBP2, Killzone 2 and Halo: Reach however they pale in comparison to my anticipation of GT5 and FF Versus. Not long to go for E3, that and also exams are very soon so really need to get off the laptop and get some work done. :scared:
 
As a gamer I am also excited to see LBP2, Killzone 2 and Halo: Reach however they pale in comparison to my anticipation of GT5 and FF Versus. Not long to go for E3, that and also exams are very soon so really need to get off the laptop and get some work done. :scared:

you mean Killzone 3 and FF13 versus right?
 
GT5, Metal Gear Rising, Killzone 3 and Socom 4 = Quality year for sony and gamers
 
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