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Perhaps the invitations are just to add a dream-crushing, gatekeeping realism to the game. Just as in real life, even if you have a Ferrari collection, you'll very rarely have the opportunity to buy one of the halo cars.

If you want a McLaren F1? Kaz wants one too, and he can't just buy one on a whim, so neither can we. The realism of admiring legendary cars and acknowledging we can't own them! Not without substantial sacrifice...
 
Nebuc72
Sometimes, I think the internet was a mistake.

I preferred the puns. Can we go back to that? That would be really Sonoma Circuit Formerly Infineon Raceway of us.

...I'm still not good at this.

(after a mysterious disappearance, this post is irrelevant and can also be deleted)
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You Se now, what the endless negativity brings to this thread. The people here are Eiger to start another flame war.
 
Vitesh Patel
What kind of laptimes are you putting down? I remember having to do some practice around that track to get my times consistently down.

Two stop on RM is the way to go, I used the Porsche 911 RSR, pitting after 20 and 40 mins on fuel map 2.

It's definitely one of the hardest races in the game, one I'd wish they'd let us run again and again with the payout.

If you're struggling to the point where it's no longer fun, no shame in putting the difficulty down. I slammed the difficulty down to easy for the rallycross events...
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I'm playing on normal. I mean, it's still very fun trying to clear this race - it's like a puzzle. I could've sworn I was doing typical lap times of about 1:57.xxx on the RMs. Maybe I'll try leaving it on FM 2 instead of short-shifting a bit on FM 1. I did get bronze on my first completed attempt, so it's nice to nab that Fairlady Z 432. Now to try getting gold for that DB5...
 
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Chikane_GTR
I fully agree I yet to miss a day since I bought the game trying and hoping to finally be able to buy the fxxk.:(

Burn it down.
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It's seriously weird to not being able to buy the cars, without an invitation. I mean, what was wrong with the way they done it in GT Sport? Got the credits to burn? Here you go, buy all you want.
Those invitation rewards are a total waste if you don't even want the car. I'd be happier with just a discount on cars or parts.
The only reason I can think of is to push people into buying credits to solve their impatience.
 
invitations are kinda creative. like the car valuation service.

People just like to complain about anything nowadays. If something like the invitations were present on a game like GT4 back in 2004, people would enjoy it.

I do think it should be behind something like a prize for winning a championship, but regardless, it's not something so bad, irl it's the same..
 
Galvston
invitations are kinda creative. like the car valuation service.

People just like to complain about anything nowadays. If something like the invitations were present on a game like GT4 back in 2004, people would enjoy it.

I do think it should be behind something like a prize for winning a championship, but regardless, it's not something so bad, irl it's the same..
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I don't hate the invitations (mainly because I've already gotten them all), but it could be implemented more fairly. Instead of having to hope RNG gives you a specific manufacturer, when you win an invitation you should be able to choose which manufacturer it unlocks.
 
Suzuki-Cara
What are the chances @hyperspeed980 is going to pull a 2 hour endurance race once Apricot Hill and the 98' Miata drops?
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If we get the NB, first thing I'll do is rice the hell out of it. NFS Underground style. 🔥
PuffelPizza
I won't be surprised if no new cars will be added at all starting from July 2023.
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Just stop.
 
hyperspeed980
If we get the NB, first thing I'll do is rice the hell out of it. NFS Underground style. 🔥
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Galvston
invitations are kinda creative. like the car valuation service.
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No they're not, and, no it's not. The car valuation service isn't complex, it's just a variable pulling prices up or down. It's not bad, but it isn't creative and it still manages to be restrictive for no reason beyond controlling player behaviour.

The invitation system operates with the sole purpose of creating small windows of opportunity for players to obtain cars encouranging them to do what they can to get that car before the invite expires. It might not be too bad if the invitations were not only obtainable by sheer luck through the random ticket rewards, but I guess that's kinda creative too.
Galvston
People just like to complain about anything nowadays. If something like the invitations were present on a game like GT4 back in 2004, people would enjoy it.

I do think it should be behind something like a prize for winning a championship, but regardless, it's not something so bad, irl it's the same..
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I guarantee I wouldn't, it's a stupid system designed to push FOMO and MTX's (regardless of if it compells any one person specifically to either or not).
Galvston
I do think it should be behind something like a prize for winning a championship, but regardless, it's not something so bad, irl it's the same..
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It's nothing like this IRL, I've never, ever, ever, heard of someone winning an invitation to buy a car from Ferrari through a random prize raffle that comes anywhere close to how it is in GT7. In real life, some cars are invitation to buy, but it's usually people with good relationships with the brand who often own a large number of their vehicles.

If they imitated real life where you became a loyal customer to a certain brand by driving/owning enough of their cars and therefore they opened the door to you buying their more exclusive models, then I'd be absolutely fine with that.

Even then, they still tend to appear on the used car market eventually where it's just a case of "if you've got the cash".

If you're going to tow the "people just like to complain" line you really shouldn't focus your attention on complaints about the invitation tickets, they are quicte simpy a terribly designed feature from a game play perspective.
 
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SnakeOfBacon
The invitations give you 30 days (formerly 14) of access to certain cars that you cannot buy without an invitation. There's several members here who have been begging the RNGods for a Ferrari invitation to buy the Enzo, LaFerrari and FXX-K. Personally I've not had a chance to buy the Aston Martin Vulcan in the last 140+ roulette spins.
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I've had the same luck on the Vulcan.
 
I think I see the point of invitations. GT is about the positives and negatives of cars. You can't simply buy your way through the game. You can't buy all golds in the licences. You have to change your cars oil. Eventually an engine will wear out. There are cars in the game that we can't afford without a huge amount of grinding. Then there are cars that you can't just buy - you have to be invited. Engines that you can't buy. Rare parts you can only get through a roulette spin.

It isn't all easy. Just like real life.

The trick PD is trying to pull is that we keep on playing to unlock those difficult prizes. This isn't a game that hands you everything on a silver platter.

Do they always get it right? No, I don't think so. But it's all part of the thinking behind GT.

Case in point. I've spent the past few days working my way through a Ferrari invitation and an Aston Martin invitation one week apart. I'd like all of the cars because I don't know when I'll get the invitations again. But then there's that Miura for my Italian Job fantasies. The GTO ...

And that, for me, is Gran Turismo. It's not supposed to be easy
 
Will Once
I think I see the point of invitations. GT is about the positives and negatives of cars. You can't simply buy your way through the game. You can't buy all golds in the licences. You have to change your cars oil. Eventually an engine will wear out. There are cars in the game that we can't afford without a huge amount of grinding. Then there are cars that you can't just buy - you have to be invited. Engines that you can't buy. Rare parts you can only get through a roulette spin.

It isn't all easy. Just like real life.

The trick PD is trying to pull is that we keep on playing to unlock those difficult prizes. This isn't a game that hands you everything on a silver platter.

Do they always get it right? No, I don't think so. But it's all part of the thinking behind GT.

Case in point. I've spent the past few days working my way through a Ferrari invitation and an Aston Martin invitation one week apart. I'd like all of the cars because I don't know when I'll get the invitations again. But then there's that Miura for my Italian Job fantasies. The GTO ...

And that, for me, is Gran Turismo. It's not supposed to be easy
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I play games to escapes real life.

Just like I could never dream of owning a fxxk in real life unless I hit the jackpot, imagine all the fun I'm having also not being able to own the car in a game just like in real life.

:crazy:
 
Galvston
People just like to complain about anything nowadays.
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That's a good thing when that "anything" actively hampers progress in the game for no good reason (and with many good player-suggested alternatives using the game's own systems such as making use of the collector levels or championship rewards or manufacturer events or what have you).

And no, "keep you playing" is not a good reason. A better way to keep people engaged is to add more content, not make it harder to access content that's already there.
 
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Will Once
I think I see the point of invitations. GT is about the positives and negatives of cars. You can't simply buy your way through the game. You can't buy all golds in the licences. You have to change your cars oil. Eventually an engine will wear out. There are cars in the game that we can't afford without a huge amount of grinding. Then there are cars that you can't just buy - you have to be invited. Engines that you can't buy. Rare parts you can only get through a roulette spin.

It isn't all easy. Just like real life.

The trick PD is trying to pull is that we keep on playing to unlock those difficult prizes. This isn't a game that hands you everything on a silver platter.

Do they always get it right? No, I don't think so. But it's all part of the thinking behind GT.

Case in point. I've spent the past few days working my way through a Ferrari invitation and an Aston Martin invitation one week apart. I'd like all of the cars because I don't know when I'll get the invitations again. But then there's that Miura for my Italian Job fantasies. The GTO ...

And that, for me, is Gran Turismo. It's not supposed to be easy
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It isn’t difficult though, the game is super easy, it’s just grindy. And lets not forget it’s a game, there are some aspects of real life you souldn‘t try to imitate.

Also the game picks and chooses what things it wants to imitate and every time it does so is to the detriment of the player, i.e. the price of the used cars from the LCD reflecting real world values, except when the player wants to sell one, then it’s much lower than that.

Previous GT games weren’t as grindy, this is factually proven, they also didn’t feature mechanics that were designed around FOMO and MTX’s. They were more fun IMO.
 
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Techlet
And it's not like you can even "grind" towards the invitations. You just drive 26 miles per day and hope for the best.

Very challenging gameplay. So rewarding.
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Indeed...

And that 1 in a million chance of getting the extremely specific Special Car Part for your car. So difficult... Driving 41km per day and waiting for the best.
This is revolutionary...

NOT
 
Regarding the invitations discourse, I actually hosted a poll a while back offering a few options as to how the mechanic could be addressed.

Unsurprisingly, most people opted to just scrap the mechanic altogether and let players buy the invitation-only cars at any time. But the rest were torn between Collector Levels, per-car challenges and an all-new brand affinity system.

Personally, if we're sticking to in-game features that already exist, I'd say these cars should be locked behind Collector Levels instead of the roulettes. But if PD can engineer an entire brand loyalty system, I'd go for that choice instead.
 

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