Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.61 Now Available

[Nebuc72]

I suppose the perspective I'm looking at it is like this - While the R34 and Honda in this update have received better praise among fans of the series, if you were entirely new to the franchise and had no prior knowledge about Kazunori or PD's development process, or even the fact the that the developer itself is Japanese, would you really honestly be interested in a Kei-car or R34? Wouldn't you rather they add a different car instead?

I do believe that one car per region would be more universally appealing.

I would wager newer players get more excited about 'plain' cars because they're in a position in the game where they might actually be useful to some of the events they have to complete.

For what it's worth as well, my girlfriend, who isn't a huge 'racing' fan but is a car person, enjoys some of these additions more because they're opportunities to drive cars she is realistically interested in or has seen in real life.

The N-One is one of her favourite cars of all time, just from seeing it and experiencing one when we were in Japan together. The gulf between the interests of casuals / pure car fans and enthusiasts (of which anyone on this forum absolutely is one) is far more vast than I think a lot of people here or on Twitter etc. realise.

 

[HarVee]

I would wager newer players get more excited about 'plain' cars because they're in a position in the game where they might actually be useful to some of the events they have to complete.

For what it's worth as well, my girlfriend, who isn't a huge 'racing' fan but is a car person, enjoys some of these additions more because they're opportunities to drive cars she is realistically interested in or has seen in real life.

The N-One is one of her favourite cars of all time, just from seeing it and experiencing one when we were in Japan together. The gulf between the interests of casuals / pure car fans and enthusiasts (of which anyone on this forum absolutely is one) is far more vast than I think a lot of people here or on Twitter etc. realise.

I honestly firmly believe there is a way to find a suitable balance between enthusiast and casual interests. One car per region, while that in itself isn't enough, is certainly a step toward finding the balance.

And they could take the concept one step further and do one car per region as well as monthly themes. Entry-level cars one month, high-spec cars the next, race cars after that, and so on and so. But ultimately it is up to Polyphony to evaluate their audience and find the balance. All we as mere players can do is make suggestions and hope they don't fall on deaf ears.

 

[Keef]

I suppose the perspective I'm looking at it is like this - While the R34 and Honda in this update have received better praise among fans of the series, if you were entirely new to the franchise and had no prior knowledge about Kazunori or PD's development process, or even the fact the that the developer itself is Japanese, would you really honestly be interested in a Kei-car or R34? Wouldn't you rather they add a different car instead?

I do believe that one car per region would be more universally appealing.

Gran Turismo is a conundrum in that it’s only Gran Turismo if PD keeps it that way. It has always been a product of what PD wants to make it, and it has always garnered complaints because of that, and yet it remains by far the most unique and interesting franchise in the entire genre. Literally all other franchises, now including Forza Motorsport, have gone by the wayside, and Forza Horizon has bent the knee to be released on the platform the Gran Turismo helps to sustain.

I hate EVs, and I hate CUVs, and Id rather have any of hundreds of other interesting cars from GT2 and 4, but whatever PD has been doing seems to be working better than anybody else.

 

[jonoholland29]

I honestly firmly believe there is a way to find a suitable balance between enthusiast and casual interests. One car per region, while that in itself isn't enough, is certainly a step toward finding the balance.

And they could take the concept one step further and do one car per region as well as monthly themes. Entry-level cars one month, high-spec cars the next, race cars after that, and so on and so. But ultimately it is up to Polyphony to find the balance.

They haven't got the team for that. They create cars as and when they can. You cannot please everyone, as is evident on this forum everyday, so PD are just going to do what PD do... which is a smorgasbord of automotive culture.

The Qashqai is on my list of most hated cars, like the Vauxhall Mokka or Fiat Multipla... but I'm surprised it's taken this long to be added in GT7

 

[Famine]

I suppose the perspective I'm looking at it is like this - While the R34 and Honda in this update have received better praise among fans of the series, if you were entirely new to the franchise and had no prior knowledge about Kazunori or PD's development process, or even the fact the that the developer itself is Japanese, would you really honestly be interested in a Kei-car or R34? Wouldn't you rather they add a different car instead?

This is again arguing against the idea that they're "niche in the context of Gran Turismo 7" though...

As pointed out above though, there's people not really interested in racing games and/or cars for whom stuff like the Squishsquash are a gateway. I saw it from outside the GT7 "fan" circle (and there's a lot more of them than there are of us) with the previous SUVs, the Kangoo, and the BX, with people looking at them and saying "hey I/my dad/my gran had one of those, cool" and engaging with the game in a manner that they hadn't previously.

In the car world, they'd be called "conquest" (rather than "legacy") customers, and again there's a lot more customers to get than there are to retain for almost anything (outside of a monopoly or the largest portion of an oligopoly). GT needs the conquest customers, and while I agree that it's not necessarily meeting the desires of legacy customers it's also not 100% on PD's part; what other games have licensed and included is not indicative of willingness from the licensors to engage with GT, or at least at an acceptable pricing level. Some have been known to add a zero or two on the end if it's a well-known game...

 

[Theufcveteran]

PD can make the SUV/crossovers worthwhile gameplay wise if they make use of them as well.

IMO, they need a manual transmission modification allowed from the tuning shop or to say hell with realism (unlikely) and allow regular power upgrades for CVT transmissions. Then they just need engaging events.

Even if they're just CVT, though, make some events for them, specifically for CVT cars.

 

[Ryan81]

I'm in agreement with HarVee. Of course, PD can't please everyone with their car selections but some of the cars added really get you head scratching. This late in the game, why have a Qashqai? I'm sure there must be more appealing and worthwhile cars out there. Even if they go back to the datamined list or choose oldies from previous games. I'm m still waiting for the Alfa Romeo Brera to make a comeback 😁

 

[WolfpackS2k]

Checks calendar...ah yes, it's that time of the month. Another worthless GT7 update is dropping.

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[jonoholland29]

PD can make the SUV/crossovers worthwhile gameplay wise if they make use of them as well.

IMO, they need a manual transmission modification allowed from the tuning shop or to say hell with realism (unlikely) and allow regular power upgrades for CVT transmissions. Then they just need engaging events.

Even if they're just CVT, though, make some events for them, specifically for CVT cars.

I think making the game fully compatible with VR at all times is what causes the issues here coupled with PD's insane level of detail. They'd need to re-engineer the internal captures of all the car's with transmission swaps

 

[Theufcveteran]

I think making the game fully compatible with VR at all times is what causes the issues here coupled with PD's insane level of detail. They'd need to re-engineer the internal captures of all the car's with transmission swaps

Unfortunately while I greatly appreciate PD's attention to detail, I also think they'd never try to fudge something in the name of gameplay.

For example, just disabling the gear shift animation or faking it with paddle shifts (even if there's no paddle shifter model). The former would probably be more work since you would need to specify to disable the animation in CVT cars only.

There's not really a clean way to do it without putting a lot of effort into it. Personally I think they should just "fake" it until GT8 where they can tackle it in a cleaner way.

 

[IngWeltschmer]

January 2024 would like a word.

April 2024 as well, unless the Chevelle is someone's favourite car.

Everybody seems to forget September 2022, however...

 

[Nakano219]

Everybody seems to forget September 2022, however...

It's down there, but it's not close to Jan 2024.

The Silvia is inoffensive and fills the zenki S14 gap in the Silvia line that GT was always going to fill eventually, and the ID.R is a cool car that just doesn't fit in this game very well. The Porsche VGT Spyder, yeah, no arguments from me there.

 

[NTGSruler]

I'm not saying the game should be nothing but the latest supercars, but rather what I am saying is that a bit more balance in the car list would increase the appeal of the game. Take here with this update we have nothing but niche cars from Japan, while Europe and America have gotten ignored. It would work fine and likely receive less complains or criticism if they would design their content updates with international appeal in mind. And when I say that I am suggesting the idea of having one car per major region in each update going forward. One Japanese, one European and one American. This way they'd appeal of all major markets and car cultures. Sure, there is no definite way to please everyone, and no doubt people would still complain xyz car isn't included, but this suggested update structure would at least please more people in the long run.

This is why i think "monthly" updates are a blessing but also certainly a curse. All the cars they added could have been in the game on launch like it used to be. Then people wouldn't have to complain so much about an update that adds 3 cars.

The more earlier updates had five cars instead of three. So although adding one car per region would maybe please more people i just think it still remains pointless.
There is just an issue with the flow of the game in particular. How many cars did we receive with 1 event were you are forced to use that car just to complete the event and never look at it again?
As i said before. The monthly updates are just being used to retain numbers and so are the weekly events. It's just rehashing existing events with one "special" event.

As for electric cars in general: imagine getting excited for GT10 in the future with a fully electric car list...

 

[Greycap]

All the cars they added could have been in the game on launch like it used to be. Then people wouldn't have to complain so much about an update that adds 3 cars.

In the first case they would have complained because the release got delayed as making more content took time, and in the second one they'd complain now because there are no updates. The average GT fan wants everything now and complains because it didn't happen already.

 

[NTGSruler]

In the first case they would have complained because the release got delayed as making more content took time, and in the second one they'd complain now because there are no updates. The average GT fan wants everything now and complains because it didn't happen already.

True

 

[Sum1s2pid]

Could be worse. We could be as toxic and entitled as World of Warcraft players. We... we aren't, right? 😐

 

[bluealpine]

I'am a car's enthusiast and a gt player from the first one. This update is interesting me for many reasons.
1. I could suggest 1000 cars to add in GT7 in the next update prediction thread...only the R34 z-tune will be in. A genuine GT car.
2. I did'nt known the N-one, a pretty car, funny in its RS version, typical GT car too.
3. The qashquai is less fun for sure, but drived by many people IRL. A japanese worldwide best seller.

Thanks for this update, add some races or a a track and enjoy the game.

 

[mastretta_mx]

I suppose the perspective I'm looking at it is like this - While the R34 and Honda in this update have received better praise among fans of the series, if you were entirely new to the franchise and had no prior knowledge about Kazunori or PD's development process, or even the fact the that the developer itself is Japanese, would you really honestly be interested in a Kei-car or R34? Wouldn't you rather they add a different car instead?

I do believe that one car per region would be more universally appealing.

28 years ago, when everything was about arcsde games full of fictional and super cars, a new franchise for a new console come to life having a roster full of sport, kei and regular cars, a concept not seen before and new for the players used to have cars going ocer 250 km/h all the time; I guess the concept... works pretty well

 

[jessie12]

The legendary Nissan r390 gt1 is coming soon because they announced the nismo R34 Z tune not this update maybe 🤔 next update with the su7 ultra or it will be in gt8

 

[Savolainen83]

The legendary Nissan r390 gt1 is coming soon because they announced the nismo R34 Z tune not this update maybe 🤔 next update with the su7 ultra or it will be in gt8

No, it is not.

 

[ShonnDaylee]

The legendary Nissan r390 gt1 is coming soon because they announced the nismo R34 Z tune not this update maybe 🤔 next update with the su7 ultra or it will be in gt8

That is certainly a bold prediction.

 

[Giz WCR-666]

That is certainly a bold prediction.

i think you spelt ‘delusional’ wrong.. 🤔

 

[ShonnDaylee]

i think you spelt ‘delusional’ wrong.. 🤔

I was trying to be a bit more diplomatic. 🤷‍♂️

 

[Crona08]

The legendary Nissan r390 gt1 is coming soon because they announced the nismo R34 Z tune not this update maybe 🤔 next update with the su7 ultra or it will be in gt8

Maybe stop watching volt

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I don't know if it's soon, but I can see a R390 GT1 being in a future update still. PD added the Toyota GT-ONE in an update and it's not really a difficult car for them to scan and model assuming there's still one in the Nissan Museum.

 

[05XR8]

I can see the Mazda AZ-1 arriving before the R390, with the way Kaz is adding Kei cars every other month.

 

[HarVee]

The legendary Nissan r390 gt1 is coming soon because they announced the nismo R34 Z tune not this update maybe 🤔 next update with the su7 ultra or it will be in gt8

The Xiaomi is already in the game files. I actually saw it appear on a 4-star roulette wheel shortly after the current update was released. I wish I could have taken a screenshot of it, but I was caught off guard that it was there already. And I know for fact that it wasn't a Mclaren as this one I saw, while it had the Mclaren front end (like the Xiaomi does) it happened to have 4 doors and be of a sedan shape.

Again, wish I could have taken a screenshot to prove it. If I had won it on that wheel spin, I would've been extremely surprised and definitely would have taken a proper photo of it.

 

[hyperspeed980]

The Xiaomi is already in the game files. I actually saw it appear on a 4-star roulette wheel shortly after the current update was released. I wish I could have taken a screenshot of it, but I was caught off guard that it was there already. And I know for fact that it wasn't a Mclaren as this one I saw, while it had the Mclaren front end (like the Xiamomi does) it happened to have 4 doors and be of a sedan shape.

Again, wish I could have taken a screenshot to prove it. If I had won it on that wheel spin, I would've been extremely surprised and definitely would have taken a proper photo of it.

Pretty sure you just saw a Taycan or one of the Teslas.

 

[ShonnDaylee]

Again, wish I could have taken a screenshot to prove it. If I had won it on that wheel spin, I would've been extremely surprised and definitely would have taken a proper photo of it.

Since the roulette tickets are predetermined (The spin is an illusion) it's doubtful you could have won it. They might have the image in the game at present, but without the actual car unlocked for use, it likely would not be amongst the ACTUAL available choices.

Pretty sure you just saw a Taycan or one of the Teslas.

This does seem like the most plausible explanation.

 

[HarVee]

Pretty sure you just saw a Taycan or one of the Teslas.

It wasn't. I've seen several Tesla and the Taycan appear on a roulette wheel several times before and it didn't match. The front-end face was too different from that of a Tesla, and the car height was much higher than the Taycan.

I can understand the skepticism on the subject though since I am unable to provide evidence of what appeared. I really wish I could have grabbed a screenshot.