Gran Turismo 7's Force Feedback Hobbled to Prevent Player Injuries

[Famine]

This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Gran Turismo 7’s Force Feedback Hobbled to Prevent Player Injuries​

Polyphony Digital has today issued a statement regarding a major change to force feedback delivery in Gran Turismo 7 in the latest game update...

 

[BrunusCL82]

 

[Yard_Sale]

I’m speechless. Literally not PD’s issue to decide how people choose to set up their wheel base, yet they’re making it their issue?

Fwiw, it was probably the Tomahawk. Despite me liking a heavy wheel, I had to turn my FFB waaaaaay down for that car.

EDIT:

Since I’m not that smart and there very well could be some sort of legal implications from our sue-happy society, there’s actually A VERY SIMPLE FIX AROUND ALL OF THIS PD…

Identify which cars are the problem, then put a warning that you have to press “X” through every time you change into that car from your garage. Simple 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

[Silver Arrows]

Uh huh.

 

[Samus]

A+ communication yet again from PD. Patches are ready a week or more before they go live in ordinary circumstances, they could and should have explained this beforehand. At the absolute least it should have been explained in the patch notes.

 

[BigJimmy]

This company has no idea how to handle communication of its issues and problems.

"Ok lets leave 12 hours of confusion before we tell people about the reason behind the FFB update".

 

[HGHTCH]

lol I called it, they just turned ffb 3 into 10

 

[NikNakTobasco]

But this is the best feedback ever don’t you know and was completely intentional. Just put everything to maximum problem solved!

 

[Granite_Lw]

That is quite incredible.
Watch out controller players - they'll be coming for our triggers next!

 

[K1LLD0z3R]

It’s not right to have to set a wheel to 120% force and in game max 10 for it to be even half useable.

 

[ShiftingGears]

This is a company too embarrassed and proud to actually admit major stuff ups in patch notes so they try and gloss over it and hope noone picks up on it.

 

[HGHTCH]

This is pretty pathetic, they want to be the "real driving simulator" yet turn our gear into toys

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Sounds like we’re stuck with this for another month at least. Just put a warning or something on the screen. The game is unpleasant to play with the current FFB.

 

[Brend]

I'm not doubting that this is actually the case, but it does have serious "dog ate my homework" vibes. 😂

 

[ShiftingGears]

It sounds like their developers have a serious issue making code that they can adjust, it should be a matter of hotfixing those cars and tracks or adding a force ceiling rather than neutering FFB and pissing off thrustmaster and Fanatec in the process and then being unable to advise when the issue will be fixed

 

[O604]

They don't do this unless someone complained about it. I'd imagine probably threatened a lawsuit also. Solution will probably be a legal disclaimer by the wheel makers.

 

[BrunusCL82]

That sounds like babble talk to me, pure sophistry to cover up the gross error.

 

[Touring Mars]

lol I called it, they just turned ffb 3 into 10

Update 1.16:

 

[jdmnsprd]

Great now I have to plug in the set up when I get home from work tonight to see if they ****ed up my wheel if anyone has a T300 is it good still?

 

[breeminator]

They don't do this unless someone complained about it. I'd imagine probably threatened a lawsuit also. Solution will probably be a legal disclaimer by the wheel makers.

I'm actually not surprised this has happened. I've had another racing game suddenly randomly slam the wheel into my thumb and it struck me at the time that ffb has the ability to cause significant injury and lawsuits could happen.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

I'm actually not surprised this has happened. I've had another racing game suddenly randomly slam the wheel into my thumb and it struck me at the time that ffb has the ability to cause significant injury and lawsuits could happen.

Accidents happen.

 

[dents27]

Great now I have to plug in the set up when I get home from work tonight to see if they ****ed up my wheel if anyone has a T300 is it good still?

From what I've read here it is but I haven't tested it myself.

 

[CrashLanding]

I can't tell if Polyphony has any clue what their fanbase wants and expects. Changes like this is what make players leave your game for good. The players that put in 50 hours or more per week are the ones I'm talking about, and I cannot wait for the feedback storm and eventual rollback of this silly update.

EDIT: Temporary so the article says. Will be fixed in an update in the future. Three wheels are affected:

・Thrustmaster T-GT
・FANATEC Podium
・FANATEC GT DD Pro

I guess we'll see...
Link

 

[128bpm]

LoL, hilarious... talk about taking the piss out of your most financially invested consumers. This title has become nothing but a glorified cash grab at every turn and their QA reflects it. From pushing bloated, proprietary hardware deals to ridiculous in-game monetization.

Just yesterday I was reading a user's feedback on these changes. He/she was going on about how "detailed" feedback had become as a result of said adjustments. People will convince themselves of many of things. Two words: dumpster fire.

 

[ICEYOU3]

That is quite incredible.
Watch out controller players - they'll be coming for our triggers next!

I hope not, the controller force feedback is perfect imo.

 

[XSquareStickIt]

I'm sorry, WHAT?!

So instead of nerfing the few cars that can cause these "excessively strong force feedback vibrations", they gimp entire freaking wheels?

I don't even have the words.

 

[kjeldsen]

Seems as if they changed the code for the wheels, ended up with a problem discovered just before release, it's hinted in the patch notes, decided not to risk anything and made a quick nerf.

The weird part is that we had to wait until today to get the update.

 

[AudiMan2011]

I hope not, the controller force feedback is perfect imo.

You missed the joke.


Also its staggering to see PD completely nerf FFB for wheels when players are quite knowledgable in how to do it themselves. Compared to the problems with general non-Sport Mode online lobbies its ridiculous PD would go and shoot this down instead.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Like mentioned earlier those of us that have spent a small fortune on the very wheels they’ve ruined are not the casual dullards that might even be at risk ‘from injury’. People defending this saying its to keep the players safe lol. Can’t say I felt in any danger before yesterday.

 

[RedRockValley]

What a strange company these guys are...