Gran Turismo Spec IV Thread: Autumn Ring, Sugo Circuit, and More

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suomi1
Just so we can enjoy and discover a true and new career mode. That's not a minor deal, and without detracting in any way from the quality of their recent work, the structure of GT7 as it stands will never allow for that.

I gladly accept whatever they are willing to offer us, but I remain waiting for a fresh start.
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GT8 needs to bring a lot more than just a new career mode.
 
By the way, I've tallied it up, and with the 12 cars from Spec IV, that brings the total to 30 cars added in 2026. It’s a bit lower than in previous years, but it’s a solid vintage.
 
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I wonder what else will they show us on october 3rd.

I remember it was similar last year with brief reveal on State Of Play and later details on World Series.

Do anyone remembers when Power Pack was revealed? On SOP or this later event.
 
Fezzik
The spec 4 update post already mentions a Power Pack update. It’s getting a new harder difficulty level, and will presumable use the updated Sophy also announced.
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Do we think it's Sophy 4.0 for Custom/Quick Races or just the Power Pack I wonder
 
jonoholland29
I think Autumn Ring Mini is a given. They didn’t announce Grand Valley South in the 1.29 trailer but we got it; and Autumn Ring Mini is even easier than that as it’s just a cut through. The full layout too was a very small track, so I expect that will be several courses, if you include the reverse versions.
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Reasonable expectation, but we have Tsukuba Short and Suzuka West modelled and they haven't/don't want to let us drive those layouts, so I wouldn't put it past them to leave out Mini :indiff:

Edit: Not to mention Yas Marina has like 500 different variations (including the RALLYCROSS COURSE) and PD only gave us the GP circuit.
 
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Talon16
Gotta admit I've never even heard of SUGO circuit. Looks good. And the aerial shows a kart track. Wonder if that will turn into something.

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I’ve watched many JGTC/Super GT races at this track and it’s always good racing. Roflwaffle has made a great video on YouTube about the racing there.

 
jonoholland29
Do we think it's Sophy 4.0 for Custom/Quick Races or just the Power Pack I wonder
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I expect something like a 3.1 Sophy for the Power Pack which could have a better comprehension of tyre and fuel management. Nothing new for Custom and Quick races as that would mean it would need to be teached to drive every car again from scratch. And they have just taught Sophy (sometimes approximately) how to use the new cars, so...
 
suomi1
By the way, I've tallied it up, and with the 12 cars from Spec IV, that brings the total to 30 cars added in 2026. It’s a bit lower than in previous years, but it’s a solid vintage.
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And the grand total is 586 cars (592 with the Power Pack). It's expected that by early-to-mid 2027, we'll hit 600 cars.
 
Really, really loving the news on two new tracks. And they are proper tracks, not the absolute rubbish that was Montreal and Yabbi Dabbi. This is really encouraging.

On the broader topic, not sure we will see GT8 or, TBH, even the need for GT8. Problem number one is the PS6 will only be a small upgrade on the PS5, yet will cost the GDP of a small African nation. So many will choose to stick with the PS5. Any why do we need GT8 exactly? It's 2026, charge us $20 a year or whatever and just keep adding to the existing game, not sure what changing it to GT8 resolves?
 
NevilleNobody
On the broader topic, not sure we will see GT8 or, TBH, even the need for GT8. Problem number one is the PS6 will only be a small upgrade on the PS5, yet will cost the GDP of a small African nation. So many will choose to stick with the PS5. Any why do we need GT8 exactly? It's 2026, charge us $20 a year or whatever and just keep adding to the existing game, not sure what changing it to GT8 resolves?
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The structure of games changes between releases. I want GT8 because I want it to be structured differently to GT7 and no amount of car and track packs will fix that.

Not that all the added cars and tracks are anything but great, but I personally dislike the structure of GT7 as a single player game. I can have fun with it, but not as much as I'd like to. That's where GT8 will hopefully appeal to me more.

But GT2 wasn't GT1 with more cars and tracks. GT3 wasn't GT2 but at higher graphical fidelity. GT4 wasn't GT3 with more cars and tracks etc. Each game had pretty key differences to the one before it that went beyond more content/better graphics.
 
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NevilleNobody
On the broader topic, not sure we will see GT8 or, TBH, even the need for GT8. Problem number one is the PS6 will only be a small upgrade on the PS5, yet will cost the GDP of a small African nation. So many will choose to stick with the PS5. Any why do we need GT8 exactly? It's 2026, charge us $20 a year or whatever and just keep adding to the existing game, not sure what changing it to GT8 resolves?
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Yes, thank you for this bit of sanity.

There's nothing that can't be accomplished in GT7 provided PD has the willpower. Why are folk begging to spend more money for a new version requiring spending even more money for new hardware for completely unknown benefits. "I'm bored and need something new to keep me interested" is not the right answer.
 
Jordan
This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

PlayStation State of Play September 3, 2026 Live Stream​

Sony’s next PlayStation State of Play broadcast lands this Thursday, September 3. The main show starts at 6am PT / 9am ET / 2pm BST / 3pm CEST / 10pm JST, with a second “State of Play Japan” presentation following immediately afterwards.
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A while ago I suggested directly to Kaz on Twitter/X a spec IV for GT7, but with historic Group B rally cars and their road car versions, and AI Sophy trained on gravel for 30-40 4WD cars, and new tracks similar to GT4 and GT5. Because Silverstone & Monaco won't happen even how much it really should. There still some small faint hopium that some of this could happen in 2027..?? But not in December 2026.
 
Dave A
The structure of games changes between releases. I want GT8 because I want it to be structured differently to GT7 and no amount of car and track packs will fix that.

Not that all the added cars and tracks are anything but great, but I personally dislike the structure of GT7 as a single player game. I can have fun with it, but not as much as I'd like to. That's where GT8 will hopefully appeal to me more.

But GT2 wasn't GT1 with more cars and tracks. GT3 wasn't GT2 but at higher graphical fidelity. GT4 was GT3 with more cars and tracks etc. Each game had pretty key differences to the one before it that went beyond more content/better graphics.
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Help me out here as I admit, the single player aspect has no value to me at all other than I sometimes do the weekly challenges as a bit of a lark and to drive cars I otherwise wouldn't. What is it about the structure you'd like to see changed?
 
Iso Octane
Yes, thank you for this bit of sanity.

There's nothing that can't be accomplished in GT7 provided PD has the willpower. Why are folk begging to spend more money for a new version requiring spending even more money for new hardware for completely unknown benefits. "I'm bored and need something new to keep me interested" is not the right answer.
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I would like a full single player career using the Sophy AI. That can’t be accomplished in GT7 unless they finally cut off the PS4. Also bigger grids, more tracks with variable weather, a rework of the whole Gr categorisation, etc, etc.

There are lots of reasons to want a new GT, either PS5 only or crossgen with PS6.
 
NevilleNobody
Help me out here as I admit, the single player aspect has no value to me at all other than I sometimes do the weekly challenges as a bit of a lark and to drive cars I otherwise wouldn't. What is it about the structure you'd like to see changed?
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Most of it to be honest.

I'd like a more balanced economy (which is unlikely to happen even in GT8, but I can hope)
The single race format replaced with more championships of varying lengths
Re-winnable prize cars for winning race series and championships
Ditch the GT cafe
Re-work the invitations to buy cars into a manufacturer relationship system where buying and/or racing cars of that brand increase the relationship to the point they'll sell you their special invitation only cars
All races to be standing or rolling grid starts, only use stretched out chase the rabbit races for special challenges/scenarios
Custom championships
The UCD and LCD to be tied to in game days, not real time days, so the lineups rotate as you play, not as you wait

There's more. We're probably opposites in how we play, I don't touch online.

FTAOD I don't hate GT7, it's just not as good as I'd hoped it would be, for me. I can't criticise the support the game has received since launch.
 
GTvsForza
Looking at the teaser images in the blog, it looks like it'll be 10 Chillis, which is insane...
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And despite teasing a 3 chili difficulty since the game came out, it still won't exist, even in the Power Pack. Are you hiding something, PD...?
 
Dave A
Most of it to be honest.

I'd like a more balanced economy (which is unlikely to happen even in GT8, but I can hope)
The single race format replaced with more championships of varying lengths
Re-winnable prize cars for winning race series and championships
Ditch the GT cafe
Re-work the invitations to buy cars into a manufacturer relationship system where buying and/or racing cars of that brand increase the relationship to the point they'll sell you their special invitation only cars
All races to be standing or rolling grid starts, only use stretched out chase the rabbit races for special challenges/scenarios
Custom championships
The UCD and LCD to be tied to in game days, not real time days, so the lineups rotate as you play, not as you wait

There's more. We're probably opposites in how we play, I don't touch online.

FTAOD I don't hate GT7, it's just not as good as I'd hoped it would be, for me. I can't criticise the support the game has received since launch.
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Excuse my ignorance but why can this not be done within GT7 or, as i'd call it, plan old Gran Turismo as i'd move it to a continuous improvement title with a yearly fee.
 
Dave A
Most of it to be honest.

I'd like a more balanced economy (which is unlikely to happen even in GT8, but I can hope)
The single race format replaced with more championships of varying lengths
Re-winnable prize cars for winning race series and championships
Ditch the GT cafe
Re-work the invitations to buy cars into a manufacturer relationship system where buying and/or racing cars of that brand increase the relationship to the point they'll sell you their special invitation only cars
All races to be standing or rolling grid starts, only use stretched out chase the rabbit races for special challenges/scenarios
Custom championships
The UCD and LCD to be tied to in game days, not real time days, so the lineups rotate as you play, not as you wait

There's more. We're probably opposites in how we play, I don't touch online.

FTAOD I don't hate GT7, it's just not as good as I'd hoped it would be, for me. I can't criticise the support the game has received since launch.
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I'd love to have some kind of giant power pack that lets us use our vehicles, but with major limitations to prevent abuse.
And, of course, qualifying rounds with a standing start.

That would be way more interesting than doing a string of “races” where you start in last place.
With the option to change the difficulty level, and—why not—for veterans to have a difficulty setting similar to what we had in the beta with Sophy.

And what I’m asking for here is impossible for GT7.

I love GT7, but the foundations of the single-player mode aren’t solid in my opinion.
 
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NevilleNobody
Excuse my ignorance but why can this not be done within GT7 or, as i'd call it, plan old Gran Turismo as i'd move it to a continuous improvement title with a yearly fee.
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Because it'd require rewriting all of the single player game and starting everyone over again.

GT7 would cease to be GT7 and everyone who likes it as it is would be pretty miffed at that I think. It's not impossible on a technical level, but it's impossibly improbable and would be a suicide move for a game several years old.

What would be categorically impossible is making those changes and using Sophy as the AI in the single player career with GT7 being a PS4/5 cross gen game.
 
The big issue I see is them still currently supporting the PS4 version of the game, but even then I don't think it's as big of a deal as it may seem; PD can just continue creating PS5-exclusive features like they have with PSVR and Sophy.

Now, how much of that can they control if they're beholden to Sony? Sony is slowly dropping support for the PS4--is it a smart move to begin treating the PS4-version as an afterthought and pour all resources towards the PS5?

Because, from what I can tell, the PS4 version basically just lacks the graphical fidelity and processing power needed for those amazing graphics and whatever Sophy/PSVR2 needs, but is that it (or at least, the obvious parts)?
 
I want shuffle racing for single player also, even if the Power Pack framework & Sophy AI as optional choices in the regular game would be much better than current reggie AI and the always boring chase the rabbit rule set.
 
Dave A
The structure of games changes between releases. I want GT8 because I want it to be structured differently to GT7 and no amount of car and track packs will fix that.

Not that all the added cars and tracks are anything but great, but I personally dislike the structure of GT7 as a single player game. I can have fun with it, but not as much as I'd like to. That's where GT8 will hopefully appeal to me more.

But GT2 wasn't GT1 with more cars and tracks. GT3 wasn't GT2 but at higher graphical fidelity. GT4 was GT3 with more cars and tracks etc. Each game had pretty key differences to the one before it that went beyond more content/better graphics.
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Just to add, PD even bothering to ask players what they/we want via surveys, have shown they’ll give us what we want.

In regards to SOPHY being updated, I can see SOPHY doing a bit more in Custom Races. Some things to parallel the Power Pack like running in the rain, using more circuits, qualifying and linking racing for championships.
Now, I’m not sure if any members have requested or suggested such options in the survey, but if PD are reading the Custom Race thread or wish lists they are aware players would like these options.
 
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