Ran up front for most of slots 1 and 3, but ended up getting shoved wide in both. Meh points but that's not the goal anyway. I haven't been doing Daily Races much at all lately, but I want A+ before the next season starts. I'm almost 3/4 of the way there now, so... I think it's doable.
Gran Turismo World Series 2024 Thread
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Hey @jimihemmy Great to get your perspective on that race. You are right we finished 7th an 8th! Even better.
I am not used to these type of race, I was holding tight when bumping your car, specially while turning. Last thing I wanted was make you spinning out of control. I did not even try a move to get ahead of you, as I owned you the position I was at. (My personal honor system, the one that make me sleep well at night
)I was so happy when you moved from the left, ahead of the Corvette, to the right, ahead of me... that was an awesome move. You are a great sim driver to be able strategize what is happening in the back like that! Great job.
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Hey @jimihemmy I did not even try a move to get ahead of you, as I owned you the position I was at. (My personal honor system, the one that make me sleep well at night
I was the guy in front in my race and was waiting for P2 to make a move since we were 10s ahead of P3 so we had plenty of time to “go racing” but he seemed fine with P2. I’d also have defended (and kind of indicated I would), but with the primary goal of us both crossing the finish line ahead of P3.
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Skipping Daytona lost me a few credits, dropped to 3rd in my region.
Not sure about future seasons. If they compress the schedule into a few weeks I could get a months Plus to take part. Did still want to do a Manufacturers series with Dodge or Alfa.
Not sure about future seasons. If they compress the schedule into a few weeks I could get a months Plus to take part. Did still want to do a Manufacturers series with Dodge or Alfa.
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This Nations Cup was pretty bad, IMO. I give it a 2/10. The combos just didn't speak to me. Three out of the five of these were predetermined BoP’d cars that we couldn’t even pick from our own garages (I love watching replays and taking photos, and when all the cars look the same it kills that vibe); two of them being oval races to boot.
I participated in a three of the Nations races with the mosr fun one being LeMans. It was, at least, and opportunity to use a car I’ve not used before in the Hyundai VGT which was really fun to drive around good ol’ Satrhe (still think it’s stupid that VGTs, the hybrids, and GrC cars are all lumped into the same category, but I digress).
Best point haul was a P1 in GT1 on the US side (with a little help from Dragline!); this one GT1 race net me almost 3million bucks.
Glad this Nations is finally over.…….. NEXT!
I participated in a three of the Nations races with the mosr fun one being LeMans. It was, at least, and opportunity to use a car I’ve not used before in the Hyundai VGT which was really fun to drive around good ol’ Satrhe (still think it’s stupid that VGTs, the hybrids, and GrC cars are all lumped into the same category, but I digress).
Best point haul was a P1 in GT1 on the US side (with a little help from Dragline!); this one GT1 race net me almost 3million bucks.
Glad this Nations is finally over.…….. NEXT!
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- moosethemooche78
Silvers across the board for me.
Not bad, I suppose. I'll take it.
Overall, I found this series disappointing, especially compared to the Manufacturers Cup. In GT2/3, four of the races were no-stop sprints -- two of them at foot-to-the-floor-from-start-to-finish ovals. Three of them used event-provided cars with hidden tunes, so there was no way to practice with them prior to the race. No weather.
My favourite race was the X2019 one at Maggiore. I'm not a big fan of the car, but the requirement for using all three tire compounds at least added an element of strategy to the race. I enjoyed preparing for it, working out a pit strategy and learning to drive that car faster on the track. And in the race, you didn't really know how things were going to shake out until the final lap.
Le Mans had a lot of potential. I'd spent a lot of time practicing and preparing for rain, which I feel would have made for much more interesting race. But in the end it was just a sunny sprint. Everybody just jumped in their favourite Gr.C car -- mostly Nissans -- and slapped on @Mistah_MCA's tune. In my race, there was one sector of somewhat close racing before the field spread out and I was left on my own to turn laps. Kinda dull.
The races at the ovals were fun, I guess. The racing was close, anyway. They didn't take any degree of preparation, though. Just show up, put your to foot the floor, and bump draft your way to the front, hoping that nobody pits you along the way. One of those races was more than enough for me.
Not bad, I suppose. I'll take it.
Overall, I found this series disappointing, especially compared to the Manufacturers Cup. In GT2/3, four of the races were no-stop sprints -- two of them at foot-to-the-floor-from-start-to-finish ovals. Three of them used event-provided cars with hidden tunes, so there was no way to practice with them prior to the race. No weather.
My favourite race was the X2019 one at Maggiore. I'm not a big fan of the car, but the requirement for using all three tire compounds at least added an element of strategy to the race. I enjoyed preparing for it, working out a pit strategy and learning to drive that car faster on the track. And in the race, you didn't really know how things were going to shake out until the final lap.
Le Mans had a lot of potential. I'd spent a lot of time practicing and preparing for rain, which I feel would have made for much more interesting race. But in the end it was just a sunny sprint. Everybody just jumped in their favourite Gr.C car -- mostly Nissans -- and slapped on @Mistah_MCA's tune. In my race, there was one sector of somewhat close racing before the field spread out and I was left on my own to turn laps. Kinda dull.
The races at the ovals were fun, I guess. The racing was close, anyway. They didn't take any degree of preparation, though. Just show up, put your to foot the floor, and bump draft your way to the front, hoping that nobody pits you along the way. One of those races was more than enough for me.
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Ranking all races for both series for me, favorite to least favorite, grouped into tiers and indication if podium:
Manu R3 - Nurburgring 24h (P2)
Nations R2 - Lago Maggiore
Manu R1 - Suzuka (P3)
Nations R3 - Le Mans (P2)
Manu R5 - Barcelona
Manu R2 - Dragon Valley
Manu R4 - Grand Valley
Nations R4 - SSRX (P1)
Nations R5 - Daytona (P1)
Nations R1 - Deep Forest
The only reason the ovals aren’t at the bottom is that I like winning and I won those. LeMans would have been in the top tier with weather.
Manu R3 - Nurburgring 24h (P2)
Nations R2 - Lago Maggiore
Manu R1 - Suzuka (P3)
Nations R3 - Le Mans (P2)
Manu R5 - Barcelona
Manu R2 - Dragon Valley
Manu R4 - Grand Valley
Nations R4 - SSRX (P1)
Nations R5 - Daytona (P1)
Nations R1 - Deep Forest
The only reason the ovals aren’t at the bottom is that I like winning and I won those. LeMans would have been in the top tier with weather.
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You don't owe me anything! I owed you for helping me get back into 7th. If we were by ourselves coming to the line, I would've slowed right before the finish to give you the spot because of your help! Helping you get by the Corvette was my show of appreciation for your help.Hey @jimihemmy Great to get your perspective on that race. You are right we finished 7th an 8th! Even better.
I am not used to these type of race, I was holding tight when bumping your car, specially while turning. Last thing I wanted was make you spinning out of control. I did not even try a move to get ahead of you, as I owned you the position I was at. (My personal honor system, the one that make me sleep well at night
I was so happy when you moved from the left, ahead of the Corvette, to the right, ahead of me... that was an awesome move. You are a great sim driver to be able strategize what is happening in the back like that! Great job.
I wasn't worried about the bumps because it seemed like you were trying to help me. If it went bad, I would have just assumed it was an accident.
It is great to be racing with folks who just want to race and understand what is going on. I would race with you anytime my friend.
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For me, this season is kind of a hard one to rate, because I didn't do some of the early combos while the server issues were happening. That's probably the first thing I want from future seasons, working servers all the way through the seasons! Though hopefully that shouldn't be a worry - I think some of PD's resources will switch towards online once GTS's servers go down.
I like the concept of Nations having a set of cars with predetermined BoPs rather than stock one-makes, but a) they need to be better balanced so that multiple cars get used, and b) I definitely prefer the type of variety we had at Deep Forest to "here's Gr.3 again, just with a different BoP". But anything they do that expands the amount of cars that get used in Sport Mode gets at least a partial thumbs up from me.
I don't think I can really judge Manufacturers even with the rounds I did do, because I made a really bad manufacturer pick so I wasn't enjoying it for non-combo reasons. The only comment I'll make is, as much as I do really like it, it feels like there's been a Grand Valley race every season since the track got added. It wouldn't hurt to give it a rest for one season.
I still think it's good that GT2 races aren't the endurances that GT1 ones are. Even at the 40-minute mark I was finding it hard to maintain focus, having to do double that I don't think would have been any fun. Especially in Nations races in high-downforce cars where the field spread is massive so there's not much racing.
I like the concept of Nations having a set of cars with predetermined BoPs rather than stock one-makes, but a) they need to be better balanced so that multiple cars get used, and b) I definitely prefer the type of variety we had at Deep Forest to "here's Gr.3 again, just with a different BoP". But anything they do that expands the amount of cars that get used in Sport Mode gets at least a partial thumbs up from me.
I don't think I can really judge Manufacturers even with the rounds I did do, because I made a really bad manufacturer pick so I wasn't enjoying it for non-combo reasons. The only comment I'll make is, as much as I do really like it, it feels like there's been a Grand Valley race every season since the track got added. It wouldn't hurt to give it a rest for one season.
I still think it's good that GT2 races aren't the endurances that GT1 ones are. Even at the 40-minute mark I was finding it hard to maintain focus, having to do double that I don't think would have been any fun. Especially in Nations races in high-downforce cars where the field spread is massive so there's not much racing.
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It’s been be fun participating for the first time in a full season and reading your reports. I’ve been using my European account as a test bed and Saturday had 2 terrible races in GT3 being crashed out after pole and 3rd place starting positions. My experience in GT2 on the North American server was much better starting on pole position and finishing in first after a clean drafting partnership with Cole_Trickle, Senerio and TC55xx. Thank you for the clean race and sportsmanship to those drivers.
I was able to maximize the credit haul for both Nations and Manufacturers and look forward to the next season.
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Pretty much the same take away from me. I enjoyed the X2019 race the most. The use of all 3 tire compounds and different pit strategies made it interesting. LeMans was the most disappointing for me. The combo of cars and lack of weather made it “meh” at best.
Manufacturers was pretty bad too. I missed GV due to being out of town. The others were okay, at best. I did enjoy the final round surprisingly. I had decent results on both accounts and the races were kinda fun.
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This was my first season competing in GTWS and I had a lot of fun! Long races and permanent damage made it really good, close and respectable racing. Occasional crashes and mistakes could still be mostly recovered throughout the entire race. Figuring out the correct strategy was something new to me as well. Got 2 wins in Nations and 3 top 5s in the Manufacturers. Finished 2nd in Alfa in Manufacturers and highest ranked A/S in the Nations. I am on the verge of A+ now thanks to the performance this season.
My main issue during the season was controlling the tyre wear playing on the controller. I wonder what is the best car to handle it for the next season, do you guys have some recommendations? I would wish also to have more slots in GT1 - having all in the Saturday afternoon is not quite ideal. I haven't played with the tuning at all in Manufacturers and only borrowed @Mistah_MCA tune for Le Mans race in Nations.
My main issue during the season was controlling the tyre wear playing on the controller. I wonder what is the best car to handle it for the next season, do you guys have some recommendations? I would wish also to have more slots in GT1 - having all in the Saturday afternoon is not quite ideal. I haven't played with the tuning at all in Manufacturers and only borrowed @Mistah_MCA tune for Le Mans race in Nations.
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@Yard_Sale I’m ready with Mazda or AMG. Wanted to be in GT1 for the longer races the whole season… now I’m there and want to start before I lose it 😂
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- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
Create an alt. And save your main for GTWS and daily combos you’re good at. I have my US main, and then a GT1 alt in in the oceanic and EMEA regions. I’m actually going to start a new NA alt tomorrow strictly so I can use it on daily combos I usually avoid and/or come into way too late in the week. I know it can be frowned upon to save accounts strictly for daily combos you’re good at…because it artificially inflates your DR, but whatever. No shame in my game.
I spent the last 10 IG hours running baseline testing for next season. I was in Porsche this past season, but hoping that they give GT1 group 4 races next season, I’m entertaining other Manus - namely McLaren, Renault and god-forbid….. Ferrari again
I’ve literally spent 7 of the last 10 hours spinning laps around Nurburgring, trying to find a tune that the 458 GT3 will like. I haven’t found one yet, nor do I think I will. Not at the ring’ at least. Whom I go with will largely depend on the tire combo/multipliers for the group 3 rounds. In high tire-wear rounds, or ones that will necessitate long stints, the 458 is a sitting duck.
Watch, with my luck they’ll do a big physics and BOP update in December, and all my testing will be for nothing 😂. Oh well, at least I had a blast doing it
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If I do renew PS Plus at some point to take part, have been looking at the teams with FF cars in Gr4. Need a challenge and I struggle to drive them well with GT7 physics. Have to learn if I'm ever going to live out my BTCC dreams. Did one short season in the past with Suzuki, now Mazda is obviously tempting or I could go German with VW/Audi.
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I’m definitely looking forward to seeing if there’ll be another exhibition series soon, especially with all the new content from this last update as well as what could be coming in the next. I’d be totally down for say, a one-make race with the latest 911 GT3 RS in there, maybe even at the Nurburgring GP.
Yeah, if there’s another exhibition series, I don’t think it’ll get announced until after the GTWS World Final this weekend.
Yeah, if there’s another exhibition series, I don’t think it’ll get announced until after the GTWS World Final this weekend.
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Kinda. I have a list of some that I am wanting to use as I've not used them yet. Some of the front runners are Lexus, Aston, Lambo, maybe Ferrari, Hyundai (not Genesis), or Ford (Mustang or GT 18 only as I've picked Ford multiple times, but only for the LM II). But I haven't put a whole lot of thought into it as I want to wait and see the race combos first.
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I wasn't... Until somebody on GTPlanet planted the idea in my head. Next I know, I'm spending my evenings with a spreadsheet open on my laptop, test-driving cars in qualification laps at the Daily Races. Thanks a lot.
Here are the results sorted by the fastest combined time (Gr.4 opt time at Monza + Gr.3 opt time at Grand Valley - Highway 1):
| Manufacturer | Gr.4 car | Gr.4 opt time | Gr.3 car | Gr.3 opt time | Combined time |
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| Mazda | Mazda3 Gr.4 | 1:58.614 | RX-VISION GT3 CONCEPT | 1:49.264 | 3:47.878 |
| Lambourghini | Huracan Gr.4 | 1:59.312 | Huracan GT3 '15 | 1:49.092 | 3:48.404 |
| Genesis | G70 Gr.4 | 1:59.750 | Genesis X GR3 | 1:48.898 | 3:48.648 |
| Subaru | WRX Gr.4 | 1:58.918 | BRZ GT300 '21 | 1:49.748 | 3:48.666 |
| Mercedes | SLS AMG Gr.4 | 1:59.299 | SLS AMG GT3 '11 | 1:49.428 | 3:48.727 |
| Ferrari | 458 Italia Gr.4 | 1:59.112 | 458 Italia GT3 '13 | 1:49.623 | 3:48.735 |
| Toyota | GR Supra Race Car '19 | 1:59.616 | GR Supra Racing Concept '18 | 1:49.149 | 3:48.765 |
| Aston Martin | V8 Vantage Gr.4 | 1:59.188 | V12 Vantage FT3 '12 | 1:49.596 | 3:48.784 |
| Nissan | Silvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car | 1:59.589 | GT-R NISMO GT3 '18 | 1:49.228 | 3:48.817 |
| McLaren | 650S Gr.4 | 1:59.918 | 650S GT3 '15 | 1:49.332 | 3:49.250 |
| Jaguar | F-type Gr.4 | 1:58.992 | F-type Gr.3 | 1:50.261 | 3:49.253 |
| Lexus | RC F Gr.4 | 1:59.530 | RC F GT3 '17 | 1:49.858 | 3:49.388 |
| Porsche | Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 | 1:59.720 | 911 RSR (991) '17 | 1:49.722 | 3:49.442 |
| Audi | TT Cup '16 | 2:00.115 | R8 LMS '15 | 1:49.345 | 3:49.460 |
| Renault | Megane Gr.4 | 1:59.276 | R.S.01 GT3 '16 | 1:50.268 | 3:49.544 |
| Volkswagen | Scirocco Gr.4 | 1:59.526 | Beetle Gr.3 | 1:50.173 | 3:49.699 |
| Peugeot | RCZ Gr.4 | 1:59.535 | RCZ Gr.3 | 1:50.371 | 3:49.906 |
| Alfa Romeo | 4C Gr.4 | 2:00.424 | 4C Gr.3 | 1:49.537 | 3:49.961 |
| BMW | M4 Gr.4 | 2:01.973 | M6 GT3 Sprint Model '16 | 1:49.728 | 3:51.701 |
You'll notice that not all the manufacturers are listed. I only tested the ones I was interested in. I might still add some American manufacturers.
Also, please don't laugh too hard at how slow my lap times are.
My only question is why did you test the SLS Gr.3 and not the AMG ‘16 or ‘20?I wasn't... Until somebody on GTPlanet planted the idea in my head. Next I know, I'm spending my evenings with a spreadsheet open on my laptop, test-driving cars in qualification laps at the Daily Races. Thanks a lot.
Here are the results sorted by the fastest combined time (Gr.4 opt time at Monza + Gr.3 opt time at Grand Valley - Highway 1):
Manufacturer Gr.4 car Gr.4 opt time Gr.3 car Gr.3 opt time Combined time Mazda Mazda3 Gr.4 1:58.614 RX-VISION GT3 CONCEPT 1:49.264 3:47.878 Lambourghini Huracan Gr.4 1:59.312 Huracan GT3 '15 1:49.092 3:48.404 Genesis G70 Gr.4 1:59.750 Genesis X GR3 1:48.898 3:48.648 Subaru WRX Gr.4 1:58.918 BRZ GT300 '21 1:49.748 3:48.666 Mercedes SLS AMG Gr.4 1:59.299 SLS AMG GT3 '11 1:49.428 3:48.727 Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4 1:59.112 458 Italia GT3 '13 1:49.623 3:48.735 Toyota GR Supra Race Car '19 1:59.616 GR Supra Racing Concept '18 1:49.149 3:48.765 Aston Martin V8 Vantage Gr.4 1:59.188 V12 Vantage FT3 '12 1:49.596 3:48.784 Nissan Silvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car 1:59.589 GT-R NISMO GT3 '18 1:49.228 3:48.817 McLaren 650S Gr.4 1:59.918 650S GT3 '15 1:49.332 3:49.250 Jaguar F-type Gr.4 1:58.992 F-type Gr.3 1:50.261 3:49.253 Lexus RC F Gr.4 1:59.530 RC F GT3 '17 1:49.858 3:49.388 Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 1:59.720 911 RSR (991) '17 1:49.722 3:49.442 Audi TT Cup '16 2:00.115 R8 LMS '15 1:49.345 3:49.460 Renault Megane Gr.4 1:59.276 R.S.01 GT3 '16 1:50.268 3:49.544 Volkswagen Scirocco Gr.4 1:59.526 Beetle Gr.3 1:50.173 3:49.699 Peugeot RCZ Gr.4 1:59.535 RCZ Gr.3 1:50.371 3:49.906 Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.4 2:00.424 4C Gr.3 1:49.537 3:49.961 BMW M4 Gr.4 2:01.973 M6 GT3 Sprint Model '16 1:49.728 3:51.701
You'll notice that not all the manufacturers are listed. I only tested the ones I was interested in. I might still add some American manufacturers.
Also, please don't laugh too hard at how slow my lap times are.
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- moosethemooche78
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- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
Yeah, you’re probably right.
I’ve mainly been focusing on setups. That way when it comes to head to head testing of Manus, I can compare the cars on how I’ll actually be racing them. While I do expect some BOP changes, I don’t think it’ll be anything too drastic. At least in Gr.3.
I’ve been doing all my testing at Nurburgring, Interlagos and Suzuka using custom races with BOP on, and the tire multipliers set to x3 and x4 most of the time. That usually gives me a good indication of how the setups affect tire wear. And those 3 courses are good for evaluating performance IMO
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there is at the very least a mazda 3 BOP adjustment due with how dominant that car has been
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An idle question for anybody who has chosen McLaren in the Manufacturers Cup. Were you able to get the 20,000,000-credit McLaren F1 GTR - BMW '95 as your Gr.3 car? I'm wondering if it might be worth selecting them in the next series, if only to collect that car.
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What he said. Plus, when your contract is over you lose the car. You could use it if you owned it, but you won't be given one for rent.
On a side note, any word on when the next series will drop? I assume not or it'd be in here already. Come on PD, don't leave us hanging here! I am waiting with bated breath! It would be really cool if it was soon because of some extra time off during the holiday for practice. But, I kinda doubt it.
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