Do you say these sorts of things in real life??
Group C cars in Gr.1 (POLL)
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Do you say these sorts of things in real life??
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PD has done this for eons. We've had the Castrol Supra battling modern Super GT, Group C Peugeot versus roadster LMPs, etc. After 20years, PD is not going to change. Whatever Kaz's vision is for the franchise, we're all just along for the ride.1. Still doesn't make sense to have group vastly different cars together then try to balance them under BOP.
2. Forza did it the same way for many years, and it never worked. You always had one or two dominant cars that completely obliterated everything else.
3. More accuracy to real life certainly doesn't hurt. I don't know why people even use this as argument, do people not want more authenticity?
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Well, Gr.1 doesn't have a lot of "real cars" in its class (Most of the class is just modified VGTs), so I can understand why PD would put them in GR.1.
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And that's unlike the last decade at Le Mans how..?
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I think the hybrid part of the powertrain didn't work. That's why it was so slow back then.Amazing. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't these supposedly the same Nissan GTR LMs that had a disasterous Le Mans in 2015. In quali they were 20s/lap behind the Porsche and got penalised for being too slow.
I guess PD fixed all the issues with the car prior to modeling it in GT Sport
I’m so glad they’re in with the rest of Group 1 class. They’re absolute gems the three of them and letting them race with the other rocket ships is the best thing. I managed to win the Le Mans endurance race handily in the Jaguar running at it’s lower race spec power of 750hp. Which shows the old girls will more than make up the numbers on the power circuits.
I’ll go see how they do on the tighter circuits in arcade mode with the dreaded “boost” function switched off.
I’ll go see how they do on the tighter circuits in arcade mode with the dreaded “boost” function switched off.
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Yeah, they ran the GT-R LM with the hybrid off. That was the first and last time it was in a race. They did some further testing and then cancelled the whole program. I guess PD put it in GTS because it was already built, but the LM was really more of a half-working prototype than a proven race car.
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Why no poll added here ??
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In my opinion group 1 is a total mess, VGT, LMP1 and the newly added group c cars should be separated into bespoke categories. Trying to balance all of these vastly different cars is pointless, on power circuits only a select few cars will be used, on the more technical tracks another select few will be used, etc.
By subdividing gr1 it will give us more of a chance to use each car type in anger especially in sport mode, I’m not going to willingly put myself at a huge disadvantage by using an inferior car just because it’s what I fancy using, I’ll use the best car ‘type’ that will help me secure the best result. My hard earnt DR is too important to sacrifice for a ‘fun’ experience
Gr2 only has 3 cars and most people jump at the chance to race those, so I don’t really see what’s the problem?
By subdividing gr1 it will give us more of a chance to use each car type in anger especially in sport mode, I’m not going to willingly put myself at a huge disadvantage by using an inferior car just because it’s what I fancy using, I’ll use the best car ‘type’ that will help me secure the best result. My hard earnt DR is too important to sacrifice for a ‘fun’ experience
Gr2 only has 3 cars and most people jump at the chance to race those, so I don’t really see what’s the problem?
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I have added a poll guys thanks!
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Obviously these cars wouldn't be racing each other competitively in real life, but lets not forget this is a game. 4 Groups is fine, given how similar they are. I don't want so many different groups that I get to race them so infrequently, or even miss them completely because of my working schedule.
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They should be their own class but then the class at the moment would be very small. I vote put them in group C but only if they can add another 7+ different cars.
That's probably the same reason we have vgt's in gr1 - just not enough real cars to make a decent group.
On the other hand is quite interesting to have old and new le man cars in the same group. With the current car roster I'd have gr1 and grC together and dump the VGT's to grX where they can all be pointless together (
just my opinion)
That's probably the same reason we have vgt's in gr1 - just not enough real cars to make a decent group.
On the other hand is quite interesting to have old and new le man cars in the same group. With the current car roster I'd have gr1 and grC together and dump the VGT's to grX where they can all be pointless together (
just my opinion)
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Thanks. So we will be ready when the new communication manager will be hired at PD
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Gr.C vs LMP1 was interesting at Le Mans because the cars can do similar lap times but in totally different ways. I'm sure on any other track the old cars will be mullered. A separate class would let more people use them competitively.
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Putting the Gr.C cars in Gr.1 is a mistake but it is not surprising given how PD handles it's class system - BMW i3 in Gr.X?
I assume the reasoning is to perhaps see a more varied field, which I can understand, but they're comes a point where you need to accept that those cars are a very different era of racing and should be respectfully represented as such.
I assume the reasoning is to perhaps see a more varied field, which I can understand, but they're comes a point where you need to accept that those cars are a very different era of racing and should be respectfully represented as such.
The 1998 Toyota TS020 GT-one is LMGTP but the 1999 car is LMP900.
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No, the 98 one was GT1 (that's why there is a street legal version of it) and the 99 one is, just as the Bentley Speed 8, LM-GTP. LMP900 was introduced in 2000.
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Well, drove the R92CP for about half an hour to try and manage to put in a lap without penalties. Right after that, I take the 919, which I have never driven before outside of the solo mission, and beat my time by 4 seconds in a single lap. And that's on Le Mans, where the Nissan had an obvious top speed advantage. Imagine what it will be on other tracks.
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This is only to put in perspective what PD could do. By no means is this a bashing post or "who did it better?" or "You don't like GTS? Well go play that other game.".
A few of PC2's classes aren't perfect(If I remember, classes are based on Nurburgring lap times), but it helps in seeing where they fit in.
I figure PD wanted to simplify the classes. Even if there aren't many cars in a particular class, it still would make sense to designate those cars to an appropriate class.
If PD are working with the FIA, they had to make sure players could pick their favorite Manufacturer for all events. So, Mercedes now have a Gr. 1 car. Jag have their Gr.1. Nissan now have a more competitive car.
Before it gets too wacky with, "Well, why did PD put the Audi VGT in Gr. 1 when they already have two LMPs?" Answer: Beats the hell out of me.
A few of PC2's classes aren't perfect(If I remember, classes are based on Nurburgring lap times), but it helps in seeing where they fit in.
I figure PD wanted to simplify the classes. Even if there aren't many cars in a particular class, it still would make sense to designate those cars to an appropriate class.
If PD are working with the FIA, they had to make sure players could pick their favorite Manufacturer for all events. So, Mercedes now have a Gr. 1 car. Jag have their Gr.1. Nissan now have a more competitive car.
Before it gets too wacky with, "Well, why did PD put the Audi VGT in Gr. 1 when they already have two LMPs?" Answer: Beats the hell out of me.
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This is probably the reason for PD's decision. Gr.1 already appears infrequently enough as it is, so adding a new group would just make matters worse.
