GT Sport to not feature single player 'career' events/races?

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by Samus, May 23, 2016.

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How would you feel if there was no traditional single player 'career' in GT Sport?

Poll closed Nov 23, 2016.
  1. Not happy and I won't buy a GT game without one

    199 vote(s)
    43.7%
  2. Not happy but i'll still buy a GT game without one

    181 vote(s)
    39.8%
  3. I don't mind, if one is there I'll play it but prefer online

    50 vote(s)
    11.0%
  4. I don't care at all, I don't want/need a single player career, will play online

    25 vote(s)
    5.5%
  1. FordGTGuy

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    I love how you guys keep asking... "Why would you expect a full experience?"

    Let's take a step back and look at the facts:
    • It's being promoted by the lead dev as reflecting a full Gran Turismo iteration.
    • It's being sold at the same price of all the other GT games at $60.
    • It's the first GT game in three years and could be the only GT game on PS4 for years to come.
    • They showed off slides at their media event that implied a offline career but were not clearly upfront with the details until someone took a closer look.
    • A focus on ESports or this being a FIA focused game does not mean it's incapable of an offline career(Hell even Forza's NASCAR expansion has an offline career.).

    Now please stop asking why anyone would presume there would be an offline career in a $60 Gran Turismo game.
     
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  3. Samus

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    I disagree that we don't know enough. They've detailed what the three main modes of the game are an contain, they aren't just going to slip in an entirely new mode or section not previously announced.
     
  4. JR98

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    I really hope they add a career mode of some sort. The Sim/GT Modes of previous GT's is the whole reason I played them and will most likely never touch the online portion of the game (I very rarely played GT6 online). Hopefully, if there is no career, they at least add some form of seasonal events in the game. For me to buy this there needs to be some proper race events to do offline.
     
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  5. Tenacious D

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    If PD would just give us a comprehensive Event Maker that works offline as well as on, I wouldn't need a PD staged GT Mode. Alas, I must run, but I look forward to more spirited debate in 12 hours. :p
     
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  7. Johnnypenso

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    Just multiplayer...there doesn't appear to be any single player portion to the game:sick:
     
  8. TRGTspecialist

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    I'm going to hold out on the possibility we haven't seen everything available yet (eg. there could be actual races in the missions section, seasonal events could return), but the funny thing to me is what we've seen so far looks remarkably similar to GT PSP:

    - open arcade mode
    - license test-like challenges
    - mission-like challenges

    And we all know how popular that was....... :lol:
     
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  9. Goruk

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    You guys have to see the bright side on this, no one is going to complain about the AI...:lol:

    I really don´t care, it´s alot more challenging race agains other human being...
     
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  10. wicken

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    For sure they will if you also play against the AI in the "short" races available on the campaign or in the arcade mode.
     
  11. Johnnypenso

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    I agree. I don't race offline at all if I can avoid it and I was able to in GT5/6 with various money making tricks. Here's the thing though. Offline was always there in order to farm cash to buy the cars I wanted. In GT5 you could do a little trick with the X1 and a controller on Indy with a can of beans on the return button and it would auto load and race Like the Wind and you could make a couple of million an hour. You won't be able to do that if there is only online now. You'll have to race and race and race to earn cash to buy cars and if you aren't very good, that'll take a long, long, long time. How many casual users are going to put up with that?
     
  12. Samus

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    It's a good point. Another point is nostalgically returning to this game in 15 years like people do with the PS1 and PS2 games isn't going to go so well. Once this game goes offline in 3/4 years or whatever it's going to be very bare bones, earning a license for events no longer available or just racing in arcade mode.
     
  13. Imari

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    To be fair, it was actually quite a good little game. But it was designed specifically to be played in short bursts.

    I don't think designing a full GT game along the same lines as a phone app is really going to work. Some people want to play short bursts, but some also want to be able to sit down and play for hours.

    You might be able to do that if there's a Like The Wind online race. Wait until you see fields of 20 people all in the same car wallriding their way around.
     
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    Voted "Not happy but still shut up and take my money"

    I like the driving school/mission challenge kind of stuff though, and the arcade mode should at least partially scratch the offline racing itch while waiting for GT7 proper, so I think I'll be reasonably satisfied with GTS even though I predominantly play offline.

    Good enough to hold me over until GT7 proper, anyway.
     
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  15. FS7

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    If GTS has a offline mode as good as PCars's solo mode that would be an instant buy for me.
     
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  16. Samus

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    Nothing to suggest that will be the case, unfortunately.
     
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    True it certainly looks that way, but then we do know that there is rally in GTS and there didn't seem to be anything within the presentation or campaign mode screens to show anything to do with rally driving. It could be incorporated within those 117 events of course but it seemed a little conspicuous by it's absence to me.
    That again is something that we weren't shown in this outing along with the damage model and who know what else?
    I'm certainly not saying you are wrong in your assumption, all the indicators we have now do point towards that conclusion and GT Sport appears to be a fairly narrowly focused game unlike the traditional 'full' iterations of the franchise. But I am saying we still don't have the full picture and that does leave the door open (even if only slightly) that there is more to it. ;)
     
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  18. Samus

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    The dirt events would all be online I'd assume, as well as in arcade of course.
     
  19. VXR

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    This seems like a really odd game. Basically, your only SP content is either a Driving School or a photo shoot. That's going to get old very quick if you're not an online player.
     
  20. 05XR8

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    buuuuuuuut, the easiest way to "cheat" in GT, was to buy the pre-order and receive fast cars. It will be the same with GTS. Making a pre-order will give Cr. and I figure, a few VGT and at least an LMP, GT3, Super/Hyper car, Sports car and maybe the MX-5 of some sort. Should be enough to participate and earn Cr. straight away without grinding.
     
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  21. Griffith500

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    This game is clearly cashing in on the sim racing pretence (remember "real deal Joes"?). The FIA stuff is interesting, but most of the game isn't going to be that - the rest is simply going to be aspiring to it. As would most of the players. I don't like that.

    I'll be happy with an offline sandbox and the best of the PS3's online experience. Then they can bring out the club racing simulator, and leave this high-faluting FIA nonsense to those that care. :dopey:

    Maybe so. But they don't have to be showing them off, do they? That's the point. They didn't suddenly add used cars to GT5 a month out, because it had gone gold at that point. But they didn't show it off before then, either.

    That doesn't mean Sport will have a PCars "career mode", but it does mean we don't know what it will have.
     
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    Exactly, I don't get why people seem to think that what we saw was the total sum of what PD have for GT Sport at this point - it was a demo only and clearly didn't represent all they have done so far.
     
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  23. Samus

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    A used car dealership is one small part of a main feature, it's not really on the same scale of neglecting to mention an entire key feature and section of a game. Kaz outlined all of the features of the game during the conference, the three modes we were told in October that would be present. He never once said anything along the lines of this being a demo and that there was more of the game to announce. This was the announcement of GTS and what it contained.

    The only hope is that the missions are greatly in depth.
     
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    I would be ok with all this if they only made the arcade mode the way it is in GTPSP. Set the number of laps and set the difficulty and earn Credits accordingly.
     
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    I agree with this. This is the reason why I kept on playing GTPSP is because you can earn credits and you will be able to unlock more AI levels plus increasing the reward credits when you reach higher AI levels.
     
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    And endurances gave proper Credits. :D
     
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    Yeah but I did not dared to do an enduro in the Nordschiefe. It would be tedious. But I did some enduros with the Ferrari F2007 and it was an intense battle.
     
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    The other only hope is that after the outcry following release of an almost non-existant offline mode they'll give us SP seasonals (there is history there ;)) or patch one in.
     
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    Good question. In my opinion, they want GT to be a service, like iRacing — but more appropriately, Counter Strike, Destiny or something of that nature. So it can stay relevant for a much longer amount of time than your typical single-player focused experience, where most gamers would put it down for good after completion. They're also well aware of the eSports craze and they want a slice of that pie.
     
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  30. Tenacious D

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    I beg to differ with Samus, slightly. I think we know what GT Sport is overall. I'm absolutely sure of two other things.
    • PD has always held goodies back, often quite substantial ones, to use as attention magnets to maintain public focus on the upcoming game over the months before release.
    • PD has patched in substantial additional features to existing games over their lifetimes.
    The second point doesn't help things so much now, but GT Sport is a game which is so small compared to a numbered game, it's almost guaranteed to grow in features. GT5 Prologue had several features added, including a new track and double the small car count in two massive Spec updates. GT5 had a whole slew of added features for offline as well as online play, and even B-Spec was delivered in a patch. GT6 went much the same way, with the Ayrton Senna tribute events patched in, the Vision GT cars patched in, the immense Zahara location patched in, and Course Maker II patched in, among dozens of other elements.

    If you guys really want no Standard content in any way, shape or form, then those cars and tracks are going to need to be remodeled, and that takes time. Time which will delay GT7, so GT Sport is going to be our ride for the foreseeable future. I have no doubt that we'll be enjoying the very same feature creep which all the GT games have had over the years. Which if we ask nicely, could include things like Course Maker's return as well as an Event Maker, which will allow us to create our own leagues and clubs, and create our own championships offline, perhaps even whole racing seasons.
     
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