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oh hang about its back up again.

Doesn't appear to be anything different on it. yet.
 
The US site has been updated with info on the TAS, a translation of what was on the JP site:

http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5185.html

Looks like the talks that Kaz was/is holding yesterday and today are not about GT per-se, but about collaborations with Toyota, as they are held at the Toyota booth.

I think it's looking more and more likey we'll see no new info on GT5.
 
You know better than that. Prove it.

Well since Kaz has started talking about this stuff, he has always said 20 locations and 70 variations. He also has always used the 950 number for the number of cars, and this time he used 1000. So why this one time to this one paper would he change that? He wouldn't.
 
Well since Kaz has started talking about this stuff, he has always said 20 locations and 70 variations. He also has always used the 950 number for the number of cars, and this time he used 1000. So why this one time to this one paper would he change that? He wouldn't.

The 20 locations and 70 variations thing still puzzles me.

20 tracks, they would each have to have 3.5 variations. The Nurburgring has 3, Suzuka has 3, Fuji has 4 (if they're all in), Daytona and Indianapolis both have 2, or 3 i think. What about the original circuits that only have 1 or 2 variations (Grand Valley - not confirmed, but hoping, High Speed Ring, Eiger Nordwand etc.)? There must be rally stages or something with 5+ variations to balance it out. Unless of course reverse circuits are included in those figures.

Basically i think there must be more than 20 tracks, in 20 locations (not including variations). It's been discussed before, but recent interviews have confirmed that Daytona is 1 location with 2 variations, so that cleared up some of the uncertainty.
 
The Nurburgring has 4 variations. The Grand Prix track, The Grand Prix track short course, The 24 Hour course and the original Green Hell itself.

If 70 variations is right and reverse courses are not counted then it's 20 more courses than GT4. If it's including reverse courses then it's less tracks that GT4.
 
Well since Kaz has started talking about this stuff, he has always said 20 locations and 70 variations. He also has always used the 950 number for the number of cars, and this time he used 1000. So why this one time to this one paper would he change that? He wouldn't.

:lol: Thats right, no proof. Thanks.
 
Good idea Fredzy, i got a stash of apple cider here.I wonder if KY-san & team likes cider.What about roast beef, yorkshire pudds, gravy, salad & apple sauce, i'm sure the industrious little peeps wouldn't mind this :).And fish, chips, mushy peas & gravy 💡.They will need loads of coffee & Lucozade too.

I'm thinking redbull
 
well in my opinion we will get gt5 (well more of it)news
1) sunday there is alot of talk about a "special demo"probably will be tokyo lol
2)after the time trail demo ends guess what we will have our 9th gt5 demo
3)Kaz still didn't comment on the delay which is somewhat strange so if we don't get anything on that by sunday than the delay is probably only a little one
 
It doesnt suprise me at all that GT5 has been delayed. From what we have seen so far it only looks like 30-40% of the game is done. We have only seen about 100 cars from the 1000 claimed to be included and lots of promised features have not even been seen yet. That and the original damage model was quite poor so they are going to have to overhaul that aswell.

Yes, but we know that at least 800 some odd cars are finished, because the simplified models exist in GT PSP, as well as about 35 race locations. I'm thinking that you're partly right though, that Kazunori has lobbied for and got more time to work on features, which in a way is a win/lose/win situation.

- Other blockbuster PS3 games won't be overshadowed, such as Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2, Ratchet & Clank ACIT, God of War and FF XIII, as well as lesser but still very cool games like White Knight Chronicles. And frankly, I want to enjoy a few of these myself, which I wouldn't be doing if GT5 was out.

- The exasperating wait continues...

- However, delaying GT5 to as late as fall, which is now possible, doesn't just mean more polish, but more features and content. And little or no patches, as patching a game isn't always as reliable as coding software right to start with: sometimes patches need patches. And think of what many of us have been asking for.
  • Race mod with a selection of body kits.
  • Livery editor.
  • Good damage modeling, both mechanical and visual.
  • Dynamic weather and time transitions, at least on endurance races. At the very least, different times of day and weather when returning to tracks.
  • Polished, lifelike physics.
  • Cars, cars and more cars. Perhaps even the Ariel Atom, and, dare I say it, Porsche.
  • Tracks, tracks and more tracks, such as Bathurst, Virginia and Hockenheim.
  • A robust, feature rich online system including online clubs and leagues, with league race building tools. And with any kind of proper leagues comes the need of a livery editor...
  • The track editor keeps being mentioned, which with Kazunori's requirement that everything in GT be cool, should be a very nice addition.
  • Lifelike touches such as skidmarks, reverse lights, wipers, horn...
And so on. Fall isn't that far off, and summer is even closer. Like Robin says in his post, if a delay nets us some goodies like this, especially the ability to create my own race cars, I'll wait gladly.

The bolded part isn't exactly true now is it. We all know SpeedTree which has become extremely popular middleware this generation of consoles. And with good reason. It procedurally generates trees, plants, foliage, etc. in fantastic quality.
Well, except the only games I'm aware of which use SpeedTree are first person shooters, RPGs and war games, where you aren't screaming along at more than 20 mph. Forza 3 doesn't use it either, so it may actually clutter up a racing environment with objects which don't work well with high speed movement.

Besides, Tokyo looks way better than any racing game you care to mention, so can you guys forget about freaking trees already?? :dopey:
 
You know better than that. Prove it.

Prove what? Show me where in that article Kaz says 70 tracks? As everyone else has done, USA today gathered info from previous interviews/articles and just inserted it into the article.

:lol: Thats right, no proof. Thanks.

says someone with not a hint of proof himself.
 
Prove what?

Your opinion that you state as fact, now you have done it twice.

I am usually a good empathizer, but I am really having trouble getting your view point that a news paper does an interview and makes up information in the interview.

Now, you insist I need proof of what you read with your own eyes?! :lol: Ok, read again (http://content.usatoday.com/communit...an-turismo-5/1), there is my proof, where is your's already?
 
:lol: Thats right, no proof. Thanks.

I give up, I tried to use his current history on the subject and a little common sense, but now i see nothing I say will be enough.
 
I give up, I tried to use his current history on the subject and a little common sense, but now i see nothing I say will be enough.

If by common sense you mean speculating, I'll give you that.

Also, in the News section, it cites "1000+ cars". I guess Jordan just makes stuff up like USA Today.
 
I'm still wondering what purpose the new Polyphony/Denso GPS will actually serve. And if you think about the number of people who will actually go to the circuits that will be included (hint: not many) then many will see it as a not particularly useful item.
 
Your opinion that you state as fact, now you have done it twice.

I am usually a good empathizer, but I am really having trouble getting your view point that a news paper does an interview and makes up information in the interview.

Now, you insist I need proof of what you read with your own eyes?! :lol: Ok, read again (http://content.usatoday.com/communit...an-turismo-5/1), there is my proof, where is your's already?

you still haven't shown any proof. I never said USA today made up anything. There are a handful of interviews and articles that state 20 locations with 70 variations, in those words or similar. Your article, that you can't even post a proper link to, has NO proof of Kaz saying 70 tracks. Now all of a sudden he says 70 tracks? There is also an interview from last week that has Kaz quoted at 950 cars. Further proving my point that USA today jus googled info and inserted into their article for people like you to eat up and take as fact.

http://wot.motortrend.com/6629343/e...ate-from-creator-kazunori-yamauchi/index.html

That's 10x more credible than anything you've put forth.
 
Your opinion that you state as fact, now you have done it twice.

I am usually a good empathizer, but I am really having trouble getting your view point that a news paper does an interview and makes up information in the interview.

Now, you insist I need proof of what you read with your own eyes?! :lol: Ok, read again (http://content.usatoday.com/communit...an-turismo-5/1), there is my proof, where is your's already?

Isn't it just obvious that he was presented with the exact same line we've heard a million times before and simply wrote down his own interpretation? Maybe without giving it any more thought. And who knows he may be right, I hope so at least. But it seems a bit unlikely that he would be given a clearer answer than any other source.
 
If by common sense you mean speculating, I'll give you that.

Also, in the News section, it cites "1000+ cars". I guess Jordan just makes stuff up like USA Today.

I didn't say the 1000+ number was made up, I was just pointing out the fact that Kaz doesn't say 1000 he uses 950, most other Sony reps use 1000. I was using Kaz's 950 to demonstrate that he probably didn't say 70 tracks as he also uses 20 locations and 70 variations when asked about the number of tracks.

All I'm doing is using his pattern of responses to say that there is a very good chance he didn't specifically say to the paper "70 tracks and 1000 cars".
 
sorry bust USATODAY used a number they got off the internet. Speculations as usual.

Here is the problem, in bold. Prove it, or say you know as little as me.

A clear violation of the AUP, and other members are sticking up for him! Ludicrous!

I never said anything as fact.
 
If what your original post pointing out the "70 tracks" didn't have to do with unique tracks then why did you post, we have known about this number for some time. I think you are just backtracking now.
 
"...70 tracks..." says USA Today. :)

What are you talking about?! I brought up a point that was in an article!

Now, all of a sudden, I am saying there is going to be a number of tracks in the game?

I wrote "says USA Today" for a reason. :dunce:
 
I don't know what your problem is, but I never said there would be 70 unique tracks. You, on the other hand, know for a fact your opinion is right, but in fact you know nothing at all, as do I.

How is motortrand more credible than USA Today?

since you whine about the link: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/01/talking-gran-turismo-5/1

LOL, it's more credible because motor trend has a direct quote of KAZ saying what I was trying to tell you. Your article has a general statement we all have heard hundreds of time, debated hundreds of times and never found any actual proof as to what it meant specifically.
You did say 70 tracks, many many times. You didn't use the word unique but when someone says 70 tracks, what else can it mean besides 70 different tracks? A track is a track, courses and circuits within a track is a different thing.
And now you're backtracking it seems. All of a sudden you never said 70 tracks?

Here is the problem, in bold. Prove it, or say you know as little as me.

A clear violation of the AUP, and other members are sticking up for him! Ludicrous!

I never said anything as fact.
Prove me wrong. You have no quote and no proof as to where the numbers in the article came from.

Stop trying to put me down with every one of your posts. "say you know as little as me"? Excuse me? Why are you making this personal?
 
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Isn't it just obvious that he was presented with the exact same line we've heard a million times before and simply wrote down his own interpretation? Maybe without giving it any more thought. And who knows he may be right, I hope so at least. But it seems a bit unlikely that he would be given a clearer answer than any other source.

Exactly.
Just because its USA Today doesnt mean everything in the article is true.

I guess its a misinterpretation.
 
What are you talking about?! I brought up a point that was in an article!

Now, all of a sudden, I am saying there is going to be a number of tracks in the game?

I wrote "says USA Today" for a reason. :dunce:

But why did you bring up that point? So what if the USA Today said that. I guess now I'm just trying to figure out what was the point of the post.
 
You did say 70 tracks, many many times.
Now you are just lieing.
Exactly.
Just because its USA Today doesnt mean everything in the article is true
Correct. And nobody ever said it was true.

I guess its a misinterpretation
Nothing like GTP'ers speculating on speculation. Keep up the good, and usual, work guys.


@torontoml- Why did I bring up a discussable point about GT5 in the GT5 general discussion thread? Good question :dunce:
 
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You can only guess so far, i will never say "i know" when i dont know.
And please, stop these stupid comments like in your last sentence.
 
Classic, backtrack complete.
 
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