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So where is Red Bull Racing? The X1 is a premium model, and it becomes available once you reach a certain level in A-Spec or B-Spec. Therefore, it stands to reason that not all manufacturers are visible from the start.

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Could well be. I did mean all the manufacturers in this mode are shown rahter than in the whole game. I just can't believe people are still confused over the sentence at the bottom of the screen.

Yep, I've been trying to explain that to people since it came out, same with the wheel debate.


It seems when some people are disappointed in something they come up with all these far fetched theories to try and convince themselves it will be OK on release, unfortunately that confuses new users and can make them have the wrong idea. We've seen it before with the cockpit debate, some new users believed that standards had lower res cockpits rather than none at all.
 
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Tell us what happens MacAl, if it's true i gonna buy the whole stock and resell them here hahahah.

seriously tell us if they ship it tomorrow
 
So where is Red Bull Racing? The X1 is a premium model, and it becomes available once you reach a certain level in A-Spec or B-Spec. Therefore, it stands to reason that not all manufacturers are visible from the start.

The x1 will be a prize
 
it seems to me that the level indicator on the botom states that this is all you can buy at that level, and probably the brands that don't have any cars you can buy at that level aren't listed yet.

sound quite logical to me...

the higher the level the more cars you can buy, so if there's a car or brand missing this doesn't mean its not in the game.....

As much as I'd like you to be correct, you aren't.

Your reasoning is contradicted on one of those pictures were you see the cursor sitting on top of a manufacturer logo and it states "Cars of This Make Available for Purchase at Current Level: 0". On a previous pick, while having the cursor on top of the Mercedes-Benz logo, you can see that the "Cars of This Make Available for Purchase at Current Level: 2". So, obviously, all Premium dealerships are shown there on those pics.

Also, I believe that there are any more premium cars left to reveal besides thoses included on these dealerships. Do the math: The screenshots shows us 51 premium dealerships. Supposing that we would have roughly 230 premium cars (it's a figure based on the generic 200+ number revealed) that's an average of 4,5 cars per brand.

If this reasoning is correct (I believe it is), this means there are no premium cars from Opel/Vauxhall, Bugatti, RUF, etc.

As for the Ferrari cars, (and other brands for that matter) it seems also that the criteria used for making a premium car or not is, somewhat debateable. I fine in having cars such as Fiat 500, or the old VW's premium, but it is hard to believe that such relevant (historically) cars like the Ferrari 250TR, 250GTO, or the 208GTO aren't included (either as standard so it seems).
 
I don't think there will be a stock standard Diabolo, but the Nomad Diabolo GT from the Japanese GT3 could be in there, is that the one people are talking about?
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Also the decent quality dealership video shows that tuning/race companies are listed further to the right beyond the alphabetical Acura - Volvo list. Red bull X1 could be listed under Polyphony.
 
No worries... I can always gift a car to you ;) Then you can do with it as you please!

Atleast its nice to know the cars I really want wont cost much... :D The tuner inside me just wants to tune so I can blow away Ferraris left and right with a middle priced car... :lol:

Sweet, I've heard good things about your tuning :D

On the subject of gifting cars I wonder how long it'll take before people start offering real life cash incentives in exchange for cars? A months premo for a Lambo Murci SV, a year for a Ferrari 330 P4 '67 and life time for an X1 ;)
 
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So where is Red Bull Racing? The X1 is a premium model, and it becomes available once you reach a certain level in A-Spec or B-Spec. Therefore, it stands to reason that not all manufacturers are visible from the start.

Under the Polyphony Digital badge?
 
As much as I'd like you to be correct, you aren't.

Your reasoning is contradicted on one of those pictures were you see the cursor sitting on top of a manufacturer logo and it states "Cars of This Make Available for Purchase at Current Level: 0". On a previous pick, while having the cursor on top of the Mercedes-Benz logo, you can see that the "Cars of This Make Available for Purchase at Current Level: 2". So, obviously, all Premium dealerships are shown there on those pics.

Also, I believe that there are any more premium cars left to reveal besides thoses included on these dealerships. Do the math: The screenshots shows us 51 premium dealerships. Supposing that we would have roughly 230 premium cars (it's a figure based on the generic 200+ number revealed) that's an average of 4,5 cars per brand.

If this reasoning is correct (I believe it is), this means there are no premium cars from Opel/Vauxhall, Bugatti, RUF, etc.

As for the Ferrari cars, (and other brands for that matter) it seems also that the criteria used for making a premium car or not is, somewhat debateable. I fine in having cars such as Fiat 500, or the old VW's premium, but it is hard to believe that such relevant (historically) cars like the Ferrari 250TR, 250GTO, or the 208GTO aren't included (either as standard so it seems).
All fair comments, but not substantiated with fact, so we'll have to wait and see. The X1 I mentioned could well be just a prize car and not have a place in that list, but you never know how the game will open up.
 
So where is Red Bull Racing? The X1 is a premium model, and it becomes available once you reach a certain level in A-Spec or B-Spec. Therefore, it stands to reason that not all manufacturers are visible from the start.

I said, 'in this mode.', not, 'in the entire game'. As others have surmised, this may be the premium dealership, or the dealership in an arcade mode, etc. I am not tryng to prove or disprove anything. Why not understand before jumping to conclusions?
 
I said, 'in this mode.', not, 'in the entire game'. As others have surmised, this may be the premium dealership, or the dealership in an arcade mode, etc. I am not tryng to prove or disprove anything. Why not understand before jumping to conclusions?
I don't care what you said - my response applies regardless of the granularity of your statement.

As for lecturing on not jumping to conclusions, that's a bit rich considering it was in response to a statement from yourself regarding a game you have never played and have no knowledge of how it hangs together...
 
I said, 'in this mode.', not, 'in the entire game'. As others have surmised, this may be the premium dealership, or the dealership in an arcade mode, etc. I am not tryng to prove or disprove anything. Why not understand before jumping to conclusions?

I think this is probably the arcade mode garage - more car makes added after you unlock them. No point playing Career if you can use the top cars in Arcade.
 
it seems to me that the level indicator on the botom states that this is all you can buy at that level, and probably the brands that don't have any cars you can buy at that level aren't listed yet.

sound quite logical to me...

the higher the level the more cars you can buy, so if there's a car or brand missing this doesn't mean its not in the game.....

Why is Art Morrison available in Level 0 but not Level 2? You would think it would be available to you all the time unless the dealerships rotate. If they don't rotated it would be after Mitsubishi in Level 2.
 
Just got in to my hands new Polish edition of TOP GEAR magazine - November edition, and there're two advertisements of GT5 !
One - "let's settle this on track" - two guys sittin' on couch
Second - TOP GEAR & Gran Turismo Event - here in Poland in 6 cities there will be some competitions - starting 19th november. It says that best qualifiers from each city (means 6 lucky ppl) will be able to drive some supersports cars on Nurburgring !!

Last events end in december - 19th.


edit : GranTurismo5RoadShow on facebook
 
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As much as I'd like you to be correct, you aren't.

Your reasoning is contradicted on one of those pictures were you see the cursor sitting on top of a manufacturer logo and it states "Cars of This Make Available for Purchase at Current Level: 0". On a previous pick, while having the cursor on top of the Mercedes-Benz logo, you can see that the "Cars of This Make Available for Purchase at Current Level: 2". So, obviously, all Premium dealerships are shown there on those pics.

Also, I believe that there are any more premium cars left to reveal besides thoses included on these dealerships. Do the math: The screenshots shows us 51 premium dealerships. Supposing that we would have roughly 230 premium cars (it's a figure based on the generic 200+ number revealed) that's an average of 4,5 cars per brand.

If this reasoning is correct (I believe it is), this means there are no premium cars from Opel/Vauxhall, Bugatti, RUF, etc.

As for the Ferrari cars, (and other brands for that matter) it seems also that the criteria used for making a premium car or not is, somewhat debateable. I fine in having cars such as Fiat 500, or the old VW's premium, but it is hard to believe that such relevant (historically) cars like the Ferrari 250TR, 250GTO, or the 208GTO aren't included (either as standard so it seems).
The only thing I would add is that all the cars in the dealership are purchasable. It stands to reason that there will be some premium prize cars, if the Veyron is in I'd wager that it is premium but it may simply not be in the dealership area becasue it could be a prize. There's a chance it could be standard like the Countach but I just doubt they'd leave the Veyron standard. Regardless of that one car though, the point I'm making is that there may be more premium cars than we can see in the dealerships, some will probably be prize cars but also there's a possibility that some will only show up as you progress through the game. This isn't as likely as all the ones we can't see being prize cars but it's possible.

As for the X1 I'm pretty sure I read that it's your ultimate reward for when you reach level 40 in the game.
 
I don't care what you said - my response applies regardless of the granularity of your statement.

As for lecturing on not jumping to conclusions, that's a bit rich considering it was in response to a statement from yourself regarding a game you have never played and have no knowledge of how it hangs together...

Stroll on, you jumped to the conclusion that I was discounting the game including precious cars that matter so much to you when I was doing no such thing. I was replying to somebody elses misunderstanding of the sentence at the bottom of the dealership screen. You stuck your nose in ended up getting it a little bit bloody.
 
On this Weltbild page , there is an (how can I translate this) "order your copy and come and get it by yourself" option. I just called the nearest shop to my town but nobody is taking the phone call... Maybe they already got it, then I will run and get my copy :D

Let me dream...
 
Just got in to my hands new Polish edition of TOP GEAR magazine - November edition, and there're two advertisements of GT5 !
One - "let's settle this on track" - two guys sittin' on couch
Second - TOP GEAR & Gran Turismo Event - here in Poland in 6 cities there will be some competitions - starting 19th november. It says that best qualifiers from each city (means 6 lucky ppl) will be able to drive some supersports cars on Nurburgring !!

Last events end in december - 19th.


Thanks for the info 👍

@Sele -> Bleibe dran :D

Called Weltbild Bocholt -> Definitely not in Store tomorrow! The nice lady couldn't tell me however if the main office had the game on the shelves.
 
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On this Weltbild page , there is an (how can I translate this) "order your copy and come and get it by yourself" option. I just called the nearest shop to my town but nobody is taking the phone call... Maybe they already got it, then I will run and get my copy :D

Let me dream...

Yeah, we have the game to by MM, i will get my copy about 5 minutes when i'm finished working.
 
If you can look under the Blitz square on the manufacturer menu you will see the Gran Turismo square. All the cars people are asking about could be there. Plus they could add any car at anytime after the game is released. I know Prologe had cars added after it was released or there could be DLC.
 
I think we'll get more car from DLC.

In GT5P we have Ferrari California, Lotus Evora, Citroen GT from Spec-III DLC.

So, I think DLC is 100% coming to GT5.
 
Stroll on, you jumped to the conclusion that I was discounting the game including precious cars that matter so much to you when I was doing no such thing. I was replying to somebody elses misunderstanding of the sentence at the bottom of the dealership screen. You stuck your nose in ended up getting it a little bit bloody.
Like I said, my statement still stands, assuming you know what granularity means in this context. As for getting my nose a bit bloody...grow up eh? These are forums not a children's playground, although you could be forgiven at times.
 
Why is Art Morrison available in Level 0 but not Level 2? You would think it would be available to you all the time unless the dealerships rotate. If they don't rotated it would be after Mitsubishi in Level 2.


It's listed after Volvo with the rest of the tuners like Amuse etc.
 
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