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MarcusarilliuS
Yea I'm over the whole menu thing too but from a reviewers point of view, after 6 years it should be refined and polished in all aspects, which includes a streamlined and intuitive menu system.
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I was certainly expecting it to be more polished. I guess the question is how you weight that in your overall impression of the game. To me, the faults are a distraction, but not a major one.

I find it more puzzling than anything else, I mean here is Sony's flagship product on their flagging platform, how is it that it comes to market and still needs work after all this time? What internal processes at Sony and PD frustrated the development of this title?

As an aside, when did we lose the cool MTV style video effects on replays? Were they in GT4? I used to really like that. Just me, huh...
 
robulus
I was certainly expecting it to be more polished. I guess the question is how you weight that in your overall impression of the game. To me, the faults are a distraction, but not a major one.

I find it more puzzling than anything else, I mean here is Sony's flagship product on their flagging platform, how is it that it comes to market and still needs work after all this time? What internal processes at Sony and PD frustrated the development of this title?

As an aside, when did we lose the cool MTV style video effects on replays? Were they in GT4? I used to really like that. Just me, huh...
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Think it was probably a case of Kaz's dream far exceeded the techical capabilities of the PS3. If it was released on PC it probably would have been out before now and looked & worked better.
The PS3 is ancient tech now by PC standards. From bits and pieces I gleamed from interviews with Kaz, the limitations of the PS3 really held everything back.

Seeing that consoles have hard drives thesse days and are running either ati or nvidia gpu chipsets, they are basically just very low end PC's so changing dev from PS3 to PC shouldn't be too hard.
They are all made on PC's to begin with anyway :D
There was talks at one stage of him releasing it to PC for the chinese market but that was a while ago and nothing has been mentioned since that I'm aware of.

I think until it moves to PC or else the PS4 comes along and is something revolutionary he won't be able to realise the full potential of GT simple due to hardware limitaions.
 
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Waring to everyone:

Do not do the 4 hours of Tsukuba, the pits don't work and you get stuck in them..

(I just found out fter 1 hour 30 minutes of racing :( )
 
Hey guys, found this on Joystiq's commenting board.

EDIT: This comment was referring to the news about Kaz's Twitter, and GTPlanet got the credit for translating the Tweets. This was also mentioned on GameInformer.com



I hope that is his real account, but it's probably just a fake.
And the reply user's name is humerous. Jus' sayin'!
 
MarcusarilliuS
Think it was probably a case of Kaz's dream far exceeded the techical capabilities of the PS3.
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Yeah I think this puts an end to the whole "Oh the Cell processor is really really powerful but developers are stuggling to optimise their software for it" argument. PS3 hardware is a bit naff and keeps getting its ass whipped. It is clearly getting pushed to its limit in this game. I wonder if they'll put another cell in the PS4, or just go intel?
 
you know you have been doing too much online racing when...

you apologize for bumping into another car when racing against the computer
 
robulus
Yeah I think this puts an end to the whole "Oh the Cell processor is really really powerful but developers are stuggling to optimise their software for it" argument. PS3 hardware is a bit naff and keeps getting its ass whipped. It is clearly getting pushed to its limit in this game. I wonder if they'll put another cell in the PS4, or just go intel?
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Intel are making the best chips out there at present and have been for a while.
They would be foolish not to use them. The cell was a failed experiment and should be left at that.
There is a big problem though with the whole console route.
You are always going to be limited in some respects.
It's the cheaper route to go for sure and things will "usually" run well as is, but for occasions such as GT5 and many others such as F1 2010 on the console, when it doesn't & you are suffering from poor framerate you can't just upgrade your graphics card or stick 2 in SLI into it, or change you CPU. You're just screwed :D

Couple that with being able to bump up the res on the PC and force AA and AF. Also DX10 & 11 hardware effects makes a huge difference in visuals. Ambient occlusion, tesselation, shader 4.0 etc. and it is the better route to go.
 
Whelp, I just won the easiest $684,000 for about 70 minutes of driving. And it wasn't even Endurance.

For those of you who don't want your NASCAR game broken...don't read.
Many may lament at the inclusion of NASCAR in GT5, HOWEVER, it is one of the easier money tricks I've found out so far when you are at mid level 21 A spec.

Firstly, do ALL of the Jeff Gordons challenges.

Remember three (3) key points:

*Always deactivate ABS when you are doing an oval circuit with no braking - Daytona and Indy

**Always deactivate ABS and ASM when doing any other circuit. ASM causes you to understeer at all corners, fast and slow.

***Almost NEVER use first gear unless you are in a straight coming out of a sharp bend - say in Laguna Seca at the final bend. First gear has a crap load of torque and without any aids, will spin you right round in circles and into a wall.

Once you are level 21, you should have won a NASCAR from finishing all of Jeff Gordons advance challenges. Extreme events should be unlocked. With your new car, immediately slap on soft slick racing tires - 36,000 is a drop in a bucket in comparison to the advantages you have on field and how much you can win. Immediately do an oil change as well. I guess I don't know the meaning of STOCK in NASCAR ;)

In Extreme events, you should see the NASCAR special. I recommend you start with the regular series first before tackling the Championship so you know how your car behaves in circuits other than ovals. It actually drives very well with ASM off and braking distance is respectable for an all out racing sports car. Its nice now as you can get rammed from cars and never get disqualified. This is now bumper car racing (sigh....) Do all of them and you've netted yourself $45,600 per event X 5 tracks = $228,000.

Now do the championship the exact way you did the individual races and that should net you another $228,000. Try to get first in all races - it's pretty easy. After the championship you are awarded ANOTHER $228,000 for finishing with 500 championship points - 100 points X 5 races.

So that's $228,000 X 3 = $684,000. Plus your prize car is a 1964 something. I think it will be useful for the legendary races, not quite sure. Haven't had it delivered yet.

All in all this took me about 70 or so minutes to do everything.

Chances are plenty have found this out already but just thought I'd share it, not too shabby $684k for 70 odd minutes of somewhat labor un-intensive driving.
 
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MarcusarilliuS
Couple that with being able to bump up the res on the PC and force AA and AF. Also DX10 & 11 hardware effects makes a huge difference in visuals. Ambient occlusion, tesselation, shader 4.0 etc. and it is the better route to go.
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Yeah but that's exactly why I stopped playing games on PC. I've only got a limited window of opportunity for gaming, and I ended up spending it all trying to find the right drivers and settings for display. Plus there is a bigger development budget for console games, so the software makes up a lot of ground.
 
I didnt see this mentioned yet, but anyone notice how we have obvious things missing from upgrades?

We have semi racing flywheels and clutches but no full racing ones
We have no stage 4 turbos
we have no super soft tires

Is this something to be unlocked?
 
Fashion Cat
Whelp, I just won the easiest $684,000 for about 70 minutes of driving. And it wasn't even Endurance.

For those of you who don't want your NASCAR game broken...don't read.

Chances are plenty have found this out already but just thought I'd share it, not too shabby $684k for 70 odd minutes of somewhat labor un-intensive driving.
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Really, thanks a bunch for posting this. I'm almost to level 21 right now, so this couldn't have come at a better time. This will defenitely come in handy. 👍
 
MarcusarilliuS
Intel are making the best chips out there at present and have been for a while.
They would be foolish not to use them. The cell was a failed experiment and should be left at that.
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Well, not exactly.

Cell is still a valid chip architecture and it really is the powerhouse it was designed to be. Intel makes the best chips when power/price ratio is considered (as it often is), but technologically cell is more advanced and offers more computing power per unit.

But it isn't cell that's the problem in ps3. It's the outdated Nvidia RSX GPU and limited memory (albeit fast, it's only 256MB for system and 256MB for video). That GPU is closely related to Nvidia's G70 architecture, so were talking about Nvidia 7800 generation, and with only 256MB of memory. Not exactly up to todays standards...
 
Hey - general inquiry to the moderators...seeing as how 99% of the brand newb population has created an exploding plethora of repeated questions, how do you feel about this? Quite worn out and more on your plate than you can handle? Don't mean to poke you in the sore spots but it must be very time consuming to comb through all of the "lol what how cum i cannnt chang wheelz on da standard carz mangh?" threads which have been answered since even before the launch of said game in question.
 
Geze
Well, not exactly.

Cell is still a valid chip architecture and it really is the powerhouse it was designed to be. Intel makes the best chips when power/price ratio is considered (as it often is), but technologically cell is more advanced and offers more computing power per unit.

But it isn't cell that's the problem in ps3. It's the outdated Nvidia RSX GPU and limited memory (albeit fast, it's only 256MB for system and 256MB for video). That GPU is closely related to Nvidia's G70 architecture, so were talking about Nvidia 7800 generation, and with only 256MB of memory. Not exactly up to todays standards...
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Good point there man.

Would be interesting to see the cell(or a bunch of them ;) ) in a system with a couple of GTX480's in SLI and 4-8gb of system ram.
That might cut the mustard, so to speak :D
 
MuoNiuLa
I'm almost to level 21 right now, so this couldn't have come at a better time. This will defenitely come in handy. 👍
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Hell if I didn't splurge on lots of Ferraris and Lambos I would have over 3.5 million credits by now. Right now at 2.6 million after the NASCAR lolness.

The special events give you killer XP and money. Its worth far more of your time if you are low spec to do those over the pitiful A spec club man stuff.
 
I can't say I'm disappointed by this, but this game doesn't have damage in it does it. Just weird with all the hype, the demos, with the "fun mirror" body damage, and then the game comes out and.... just like GT4 and before. I personally don't care about destroying the car, if thats your fun then you can't drive well. I've heard of the "damage after lvl __", but if it ain't in the game out of the gate, then why even hype this stuff? It really shows that the online community drives what they put into this game, (skid marks, REVERSE LIGHTS, who cares). I'm just glad the driving physics on this game absolutely kick GT4', and forza's butt.
 
When GT5 meets real life:-

If it wasn't for the throttle control I've been practising for the last week I would never have got our 123d BMW home last night. The snow levels have helped too!

Could do with a decent rally car and studded tyres in the UK at the minute though.
 
Hoodie1878
When GT5 meets real life:-

If it wasn't for the throttle control I've been practising for the last week I would never have got our 123d BMW home last night. The snow levels have helped too!

Could do with a decent rally car and studded tyres in the UK at the minute though.
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Very True.. I woke up this morning to a fresh fall of Snow, and it's now to high for the quattro so it's another GT5 day for me :)
 
Hoodie1878
When GT5 meets real life:-

If it wasn't for the throttle control I've been practising for the last week I would never have got our 123d BMW home last night. The snow levels have helped too!

Could do with a decent rally car and studded tyres in the UK at the minute though.
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gslooney
Very True.. I woke up this morning to a fresh fall of Snow, and it's now to high for the quattro so it's another GT5 day for me :)
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Well, it's only fair that once in a while you get to practice the conditions we get to enjoy here in Nordic countries every year :)
 
Anyone noticed that the European gran-turismo.com is down for maintenance again? It has been down for more than 12 hours now. US version is shaky and the Asian version seems fine although the link to the GT5P TT rankings is gone now...
 
Hoodie1878
When GT5 meets real life:-

If it wasn't for the throttle control I've been practising for the last week I would never have got our 123d BMW home last night. The snow levels have helped too!

Could do with a decent rally car and studded tyres in the UK at the minute though.
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Geze
Well, it's only fair that once in a while you get to practice the conditions we get to enjoy here in Nordic countries every year :)
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Unlike you guys though we're pathetic and the whole country comes to a standstill, it's embarrassing.
 
There is damage in the game. Maybe not mechanical just yet, but Kaz has promised it will be here early next month. I have a question. Is there any way to get the Sig edition in America? hit me up if there is!
 
Hoodie1878
When GT5 meets real life:-

If it wasn't for the throttle control I've been practising for the last week I would never have got our 123d BMW home last night. The snow levels have helped too!

Could do with a decent rally car and studded tyres in the UK at the minute though.
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Don't hit any bollards etc. In real life you will dent your car.
Just throwing that out there. If you do hit an obstacle however, your repair bill will be cheaper than a chassis rigidity Thingy.
 
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