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[ch3ng]

Lexus was (or still is) planning to enter DTM so this concept car (which is based on an Opel Vectra DTM car strangely enough) is basically just as much a DTM car as the others, it's the only Premium one so I'm glad I can enter DTM events with it since I use cockpit view.

If we're talking realistic, the real DTM series only features current cars, not classics from the early nineties as well, like the GT5 DTM events do.
So having a one-off prototype Lexus driving around too hardly takes away any realism, since there already is none, it's that simple.

Yes. But Lexus did Not Enter. I think they should Design a Real DTM Car (current or old doesnt matter) instead of a "maybe or Never in DTM Concept car created by a Manufacture who maybe Not Enter the DTM".

Why Not a BMW, Audi, Mercedes , (Opel) instead of a Lexus?

I like Old DTM Cars and Thats more realistic as a Concept car of a Manufacture with no History in DTM.

I like the Lexus but they made the wrong Choice in my opinion. They could make a Real DTM Premium Car instead.

Exactly. GT5 is the first game on the PS3, and if it follows the same pattern as the past two systems, then GT6 is going to be fantastic.

There is a difference. We have DLC and Patches now. And the next Generation will Start 2012 with the Wii U and its quite realistic that we will See a Xbox "Next" 2013.

GT6 on PS3 will not be able to compete with Next Gen Racing Games. Not only in Terms of graphics.

Nowadays other Great Racing Games will or do compete with GT on the Same Level.

Its Different now

 

[maxpontiac]

If that were the case than the simple point still rings true, they didn't use their time wisely. Because PD WERE formed to make video games, that is their purpose. If they're wasting game time doing promo stuff with Nissan as your example then that is wasted time, plain and simple.

A waste of time to who? You? To the known Forza fanboys? To a small percentage of GT players on GT Planet? GT is guaranteed to sell 5-10 million copies no matter what happens or what it said on the internet.

 

[marchi]

Yes. But Lexus did Not Enter. I think they should Design a Real DTM Car (current or old doesnt matter) instead of a "maybe or Never in DTM Concept car created by a Manufacture who maybe Not Enter the DTM".

Why Not a BMW, Audi, Mercedes , (Opel) instead of a Lexus?

I like Old DTM Cars and Thats more realistic as a Concept car of a Manufacture with no History in DTM.

I like the Lexus but they made the wrong Choice in my opinion. They could make a Real DTM Premium Car instead.



There is a difference. We have DLC and Patches now. And the next Generation will Start 2012 with the Wii U and its quite realistic that we will See a Xbox "Next" 2013.

GT6 on PS3 will not be able to compete with Next Gen Racing Games. Not only in Terms of graphics.

Nowadays other Great Racing Games will or do compete with GT on the Same Level.

Its Different now

Thats why GT6 won't be released on the ps3. When somebody who creates the flipping game already comments that the console is limited, why release another when a new console is 2 years away?

 

[MadmuppGT]

A waste of time to who? You? To the known Forza fanboys? To a small percentage of GT players on GT Planet? GT is guaranteed to sell 5-10 million copies no matter what happens or what it said on the internet.

The thing is the promo work not only creates and makes bonds with these companies stronger it also promotes the game itself, its a double whammy in terms of getting the GT brand out there.

this point that the Gran Turismo brand is still a strong and healthy brand is proven time and time again with the sales alone, and the fact that many of us (including myself) are still playing this game over a year on... How many hours game play is that? I'm sure if you could bottle that and sell it to other game devs they'd give their first born children for it!

 

[sems4arsenal]

SO the F12B Reveal Promos are released Unlike the 458 Italia it didn't get a Forza GT Tribute trailer .Make of that what you wish

 

[captaincrunch24]

While PD was in Belgium mapping out Spa, I wonder if they visited Zolder as well? The two tracks are only an hour's drive apart.

 

[Samus]

A waste of time to who? You? To the known Forza fanboys? To a small percentage of GT players on GT Planet? GT is guaranteed to sell 5-10 million copies no matter what happens or what it said on the internet.

To the people who believe the game was terribly unfinished when released and isn't that much better now, I guess. It's not just a 'small percentage' as you put it, I'd say when GT5 was released it was the vocal majority.

This has NOTHING to do with Forza. NOTHING. I don't know why you've brought it up.

Also sales doesn't equal quality, so I'm not sure why you're mentioning that. Justin Beiber albums sell by the millions and we all know what they are like. GT has simply created a name for itself and a large market for their games. I think the GT6 sales will be very very interesting though, to see how the mess of GT5 affects sales.

 

[nitrorocks]

While PD was in Belgium mapping out Spa, I wonder if they visited Zolder as well? The two tracks are only an hour's drive apart.

One can only hope

 

[analog]

Yes. But Lexus did Not Enter. I think they should Design a Real DTM Car (current or old doesnt matter) instead of a "maybe or Never in DTM Concept car created by a Manufacture who maybe Not Enter the DTM".

Why Not a BMW, Audi, Mercedes , (Opel) instead of a Lexus?

I like Old DTM Cars and Thats more realistic as a Concept car of a Manufacture with no History in DTM.

I like the Lexus but they made the wrong Choice in my opinion. They could make a Real DTM Premium Car instead.

Again, the Lexus is based on a real DTM car (and therefor performs like one) and whilst it didn't enter or have any history in DTM, I don't mind it being eligible since it's the only Premium DTM car.
Don't get me wrong though, I like old and new 'real' DTM cars too but having 20 year old DTM cars sharing the grid with more recent ones is as much an accurate representation of real DTM as having a potential future DTM car sharing the grid too, neither are realistic apart from imagining it to be an unofficial DTM event, a more casual 'classic' racing day if you will (although that goes for most races in GT5 apart from things like NASCAR or SuperGT).

Obviously I'd too prefer to have a full current grid or at least some current and classic Premium DTM material but maybe it's simply a license issue which prevented them from including current DTM cars and the Lexus concept provided an alternative to that, as they might not need a DTM license to include it (as it isn't an official DTM car like you said).
It at least provides a taste of what it would be like to have Premium DTM cars in the future, so not just a Lexus DTM concept but a concept of things to come.

 

[vandaliser]

I honestly don't care about when GT6 is released, all I care about is that it's finished this time. If it doesn't have an offline career in size that at least matches GT4 then I'm sorry, but I'm out.

cool story brah. I am sure kaz is hurt by that statement


I dont care how long kaz takes for Gt6. I would love it to be a launch ps4 title or even in its first year.


But as long as it dwarfs gt5 in scope just like 5 dwarfed number 4 then that's all that matters.

 

[Samus]

cool story brah. I am sure kaz is hurt by that statement


I dont care how long kaz takes for Gt6. I would love it to be a launch ps4 title or even in its first year.


But as long as it dwarfs gt5 in sope just like 5 dwarfed number then that's all that matters.

You post a childish retort at my comment and then basically say the same as I did, just without the 'I won't buy it' part?

 

[vandaliser]

You post a childish retort at my comment and then basically say the same as I did, just without the 'I won't buy it' part?

i thought you wanted gt6 to be on ps3?

 

[Samus]

i thought you wanted gt6 to be on ps3?

I do but you still basically said the same thing.

 

[maxpontiac]

To the people who believe the game was terribly unfinished when released and isn't that much better now, I guess. It's not just a 'small percentage' as you put it, I'd say when GT5 was released it was the vocal majority.

This has NOTHING to do with Forza. NOTHING. I don't know why you've brought it up.

Also sales doesn't equal quality, so I'm not sure why you're mentioning that. Justin Beiber albums sell by the millions and we all know what they are like. GT has simply created a name for itself and a large market for their games. I think the GT6 sales will be very very interesting though, to see how the mess of GT5 affects sales.

Yes the few hundred or even a thousand of people who view GT5 as a "mess" are not as big as a voice as you think. GT5 has sold around 7 million copies, and if you think GT Planet's serial complainers are going to dent GT6's sales in any significance, you are only fooling yourself. The internet is a place that people go to when they are unhappy. Knowing this, why focus on a few thousand complaints will millions don't even bother?

Come on Simon. The Forza fans are by far the most critical. Look at Forza Planet and you will immediately identify those I am speaking of. They will dump loads of praise on one and nitpick the other. In fact, they go out of their way to post in threads whre GT5 is negatively highlighted. I guess they have championed a cause.

Your record analogy somewhat shows that your view of quality is somehow a fact is exactly what I am talking about. People don't have to like the same thing you do in order to maintain quality in their eyes.

 

[Samus]

Yes the few hundred or even a thousand of people who view GT5 as a "mess" are not as big as a voice as you think. GT5 has sold around 7 million copies, and if you think GT Planet's serial complainers are going to dent GT6's sales in any significance, you are only fooling yourself. The internet is a place that people go to when they are unhappy. Knowing this, why focus on a few thousand complaints will millions don't even bother?

Well since you like numbers GT5 has sold less than all previous GT games, so doesn't that tell you more than just a few thousand weren't impressed with the final product? Like I say, sales of GT6 will be very interesting.

Come on Simon. The Forza fans are by far the most critical. Look at Forza Planet and you will immediately identify those I am speaking of. They will dump loads of praise on one and nitpick the other. In fact, they go out of their way to post in threads whre GT5 is negatively highlighted. I guess they have championed a cause.

Once again I have no idea what this has to do with it. Why do you keep bringing up Forza, as if it has any relevance to my opinion that GT5 was poorly managed in development?

 

[Downhill Dino]

Well since you like numbers GT5 has sold less than all previous GT games, so doesn't that tell you more than just a few thousand weren't impressed with the final product? Like I say, sales of GT6 will be very interesting.

This can't entirely be true. GT5 was on an entirely new system then the others. 300 USD is kinda hard to simply dish out ya know, so what I'm saying is that many GT players possibly couldn't afford a PS3.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

Well since you like numbers GT5 has sold less than all previous GT games, so doesn't that tell you more than just a few thousand weren't impressed with the final product? Like I say, sales of GT6 will be very interesting.

Yes.This idea intrigues me, too. GT5's long wait and disappointing overall package has removed the veil of perfection... GT, as a series, clearly took a hit. I believe GT6 will still sell 5-7 million, but I suppose we'll have to be patient and see.

 

[FoolKiller]

Looking at sales numbers directly in this way can be deceptive and leaves out many variables.

First thing to remember is that all other titles have had many years since they have been out. Simply put, to some degree they have more sales because they have been/were selling for longer. However, this does leave a gap in explaining why the rate of sales is not as high.

And that brings us to the second point. Gran Turismo 5 is the first full title in the series to release with a direct competitor in its genre. The first Forza came out after GT4. Individual tastes vary and the Forza series would have had too have been completely botched to not be guaranteed to take some of the Gran Turismo audience. The simple existence of Forza affects the sales of GT games.

And with Forza comes the console issues. Not everyone buys all consoles. The Xbox 360 was out first, was cheaper then, and had a GT equivalent series. Some past GT buyers possibly never bought a PS3 because they didn't want to buy multiple consoles and already had the 360/Forza.


But after all that, there is still the variable of GT5 itself. To say it wasn't received as well as past titles is an honest statement. But to assume that is the only thing to affect sales is making quite a jump in logic.

Now, if GT6 presales and launch day sales are significantly lower than GT5 then we can more safely blame that on GT5 turning off fans (and thus blame it on GT5 total sales), assuming none of the above variables change.


All that said, I would have loved to have seen some of the GT5 development and sat in on some of the meetings. I have tons of questions about why certain decisions were made and how the content was affected along the way.

 

[Coiler]

 

[Samus]

This can't entirely be true. GT5 was on an entirely new system then the others. 300 USD is kinda hard to simply dish out ya know, so what I'm saying is that many GT players possibly couldn't afford a PS3.

GT3 was on a new system that cost a lot, it still sold by the bucketload.

 

[jackargent]

GT3 was on a new system that cost a lot, it still sold by the bucketload.

true... but what competition was there for ps2 / gt3?

different now

I bought ps3 for gt5 - unless i get suddenly & unexpectedly wealthy I'm not going to go out & buy an xbox no matter how good forza gets.

I'm sure the same thing works in the other direction

 

[marchi]

Apparently it's perceived that the next consoles won't be as expensive from the offset as the last two. It's not really like the PS2 and PS3 where each had a DVD driver and Blu Ray 'which were new technology at their release'.

 

[maxpontiac]

Well since you like numbers GT5 has sold less than all previous GT games, so doesn't that tell you more than just a few thousand weren't impressed with the final product? Like I say, sales of GT6 will be very interesting.

Once again I have no idea what this has to do with it. Why do you keep bringing up Forza, as if it has any relevance to my opinion that GT5 was poorly managed in development?

I might be mistaken but GT5 is ahead of GT4 at this exact time in its release. Please, if GT6 is the same revolution 2 was 1 and 4 was to 3, people will line up in droves. Of course, the Global economic situation could derail the gaming industry as we know it, but I don't want to go there.

I brought it up because of your "I am out unless GT6 does" stance and assumed Forza would be one of you alternatives. A mistake perhaps, but nothing sinister. What I said may not imply to you, but it does to many at GT Planet.

Ok, you are unhappy, fine. It's been 15 months or so since GT5 has released. Maybe it is time to move on.

 

[dimangelogtp]

W.O.W it's seven oclock in the morning here in greece and i'm so excited with these real news after many months , the hype train is in front of the station and ready to rollllllllllllllll , grab your tickets guys we are leaving town .

 

[King1982]

Forza is getting the upperhand on gt5 with that porsche dlc coming up.

 

[ch3ng]

Forza is getting the upperhand on gt5 with that porsche dlc coming up.

Thats your opinion. Sure the Porsche Fans will Look at FM4...

Turn10 and PD delivered Great Racing Games with advantage and disadvantage. I think both are Great Games.

I can't decide which Game is better. It depends what you prefer....

For example:

- Asia Cars
- American Cars
- Night Race
- Race Series
- Community

 

[Froudeybrand]

So I have been looking at the gran turismo site looking at the dlcs etc

I can only assume that we will see a new DLC between 18th to 20th of this month of March. Is this logicial cause the wasn't it stated every two months?

 

[GTPorsche]

Thats your opinion. Sure the Porsche Fans will Look at FM4...

Turn10 and PD delivered Great Racing Games with advantage and disadvantage. I think both are Great Games.

I can't decide which Game is better. It depends what you prefer....

For example:

- Asia Cars
- American Cars
- Night Race
- Race Series
- Community

Both games have their strengths and weaknesses.

But that's not what this thread is for.

 

[Jay]

I can only assume that we will see a new DLC between 18th to 20th of this month of March. Is this logicial cause the wasn't it stated every two months?

That's the general consensus, but it would happen during SEN update, so either this week 14th/15th (doubtful) or next week 21st/22nd which I think it much more likely.

 

[ch3ng]

Both games have their strengths and weaknesses.

But that's not what this thread is for.

I know. I comment a Comment about Porsche.

This Comment:

Forza is getting the upperhand on gt5 with that porsche dlc coming up.

I did this to prevent a Forza vs GT discussion.