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sems4arsenal
You can look at it that way but the way I see it less than 5 % who play gt actually care about those two features
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Similar numbers probably care about every variation of Skyline too. Everyone wants something slightly different. Your wants are no more important to Sony than anyone else's. They want what will make them the most money in the end.

I think Sony is using GT5 as a reason to buy them .
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Assuming that 3D and/or Move are the hold up, that is the most obvious statement of the day. Its' called synergy.
 
sems4arsenal
Ok Going to talk about GT5 for a change :D ,don't you guys think that us hard core fans are being treated unfairly
I mean most of us bought a wheel (even a cockpit),a PS3 a full HD TV with HDMI Cables for GT5P now they expect us to buy a 3D TV ,3D glasses,PS EYE,and playstation move ,all of that excluding GTPSP for GT5 .Sony are losing it.Thoughts.
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Bro, am playing games on my SDTV and I don't have problem with that!!!! Nobody can say me buy HDTV if I don't want ( I have HDTV in living room but not in my bed room), nobody can tell you that now you must buy 3DTV for GT5...:)
 
AleksandarSRB
Bro, am playing games on my SDTV and I don't have problem with that!!!! Nobody can say me buy HDTV if I don't want ( I have HDTV in living room but not in my bed room), nobody can tell you that now you must buy 3DTV for GT5...:)
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I agree with you about 3DTV,it's superfluous in this momento because this technology is very recent and we don't know how much it could change our gaming experience!but I disagree with you about HDTV,I think that HDTV is must for gt5!!
 
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Not a 3dtv but HDTV is ESSENTIAL to play GT5 how it was meant to be. IF you have flow for a PS3 dont be shiesty and get a HDTV.
 
chepe371
Not a 3dtv but HDTV is ESSENTIAL to play GT5 how it was meant to be. IF you have flow for a PS3 dont be shiesty and get a HDTV.
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Why?

I was at my mates house today. he was playing Metal Gear Solid 4, but he has no HDMI socket on his TV, only component cable sockets. So he plays it on SDTV resolution with his SCART cable.

Unless you looked closely and/or were being really picky the difference is negligible.

Of course HD resolution is desirable and is noticeably better when you compare the two. But it is far from essential. Infact as pointed out, a HDTV isn't even necessary.

The fact HDTVs and the new generation of consoles came out together means that any games you play now on your HDTV will look way better than the games you used to play on an SDTV with your old PS2/Xbox/Gamecube etc.

I got my glasses the same day my brother got a HDTV and a PS3, so not only did I see the new shiny graphics, I could see it clearly. The difference blew my mind. But the console was the big leap, not the resolution.

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Nice comic, but put that tv side to side with a 46 Aquos with HDMI running 1080P and tell me how much you can neglect then.

Also i noticed you said SD resolution. on an HDTV i suppose? its still much nicer than SD on a SDTV.

My friend has his brand new slim hooked up via RCA's to his SD 1990's Panasorny and goddamn its an eyesore, event he PS2 looks better sometimes.

So I beleive its essential, without the proper hd capable tv you just will not get the game running to its FULL potential, like having an NSX-R limited to 150KM\h, unspeakable.
 
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Yea, thats a pretty funny comic, but it is a big deal for all of broadcast television to upgrade resolution. We probably won't see a jump like this for another 7-10 years.
 
I find HDTV preferable simply because of the increase in space to fit details. Sure, you can paint a picture on a 2x4 inch canvas, but imagine the detail you could fit into the painting if you expanded the canvas to 2x4 feet.
 
sems4arsenal
You can look at it that way but the way I see it less than 5 % who play gt actually care about those two features ,I think Sony is using GT5 as a reason to buy them .
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Well, I believe, at some point most people will care at least for 3D feature.
Just imagine for a second that you are able to judge the ingame object distances (cars, track elements, etc.) perfectly fine and have a great natural "trajectory feeling", which helps you to take turns more precisely.
Doesn't it sound good? But it's all thanks to 3D-mode.
 
chepe371
So I beleive its essential, without the proper hd capable tv you just will not get the game running to its FULL potential
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SDTV hides "low res" geometry and textures better. So it might look even more real than on a HDTV where you can see all the issues a lot more.

Of course I prefer playing in HD to see more details where they are available.
 
drivatar
SDTV hides "low res" geometry and textures better. So it might look even more real than on a HDTV where you can see all the issues a lot more.

Of course I prefer playing in HD to see more details where they are available.
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I understand what your mean, but that's kinda like saying life looks better when your drunk.

I'll take the HD TV.
 
Sam48
I understand what your mean, but that's kinda like saying life looks better when your drunk.

I'll take the HD TV.
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:lol:

My wife doesn't where her contacts because the house looks cleaner that way:)


Edit: Just starting thinking - She probably also does that so I'll look better. (?)

(self-burn)
 
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Well SDTV (not SD res) will make it look smoother because it blurs alot of sharp lines.

I cant play GT4 thru AV on my HDTV it simply looks like crap at a decent aspect, the original aspect looks good but translates to about a 4x5 inch box, not a good look and at a normal aspect where the entire screen is utilized, everything is wayyy to upscaled and even blurry like if it was 30fps, despite the TV itself being "better".
 
Sam48
I understand what your mean, but that's kinda like saying life looks better when your drunk.

I'll take the HD TV.
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Isn't that what some people do anyway? :lol:
 
The difference when I bought my HDTV was really like night and day in Prologue. Not only I am finally able to see where I'm going on the track but all the details (and 2d cardboard trees) are now clearly visible :sly:
 
RedBaron
The difference when I bought my HDTV was really like night and day in Prologue. Not only I am finally able to see where I'm going on the track but all the details (and 2d cardboard trees) are now clearly visible :sly:
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Was it dynamic?
 
hey guys you dont need to discuss the differences between hd or sd tv ...hd tvs are better ( between hd and sd is not a very big difference but between sd and fhd (+60fps)is a very big difference ...
for me its not important ,im playing my games now on a old tv but if i want i can take my fhd sony tv (its in the living room now)

3d is a good and important technology but what the fxxk is move on gt5?pd are you kidding me
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Comparing resolution alone across various devices is bordering on pointless and naive! It's all about the purpose of the display and how they have independently evolved:

  • PC monitors had, and have, higher resolutions than HDTV because their primary purpose is to display the output from a computer, where the majority of time you are working on a desktop area, perched a couple of feet from the screen. Typically, more screen-estate is better, and the higher the resolution, the more screen-estate you have to work with.
  • TVs adopted the HDTV standard in order to improve the resolution and colour depth of broadcast and recorded video footage. The fact that the 1920 x 1080 is lower than the resolution of some PC monitors from 2004 (referencing that cartoon) is irrelevant. A TV was not intended to display the output from a PC, it was intended to display video material that was, at least in broadcast terms, limited by available bandwidth. As such, an aspect of 16:9 was chosen, with 1280 x 720 and 1980 x 1080 being the adopted standards. In this regard, they succeeded, because HD video footage looks far cripser and clearer than SD video footage.
  • Games consoles have always adopted output resolutions that were in line with the capability of the hardware and display limitations at the time, while being as cost-effective as possible to make them affordable to the mass market. For that reason, HD resolutions on home consoles were only feasible since the Xbox 360 and PS3. Again, the fact that PC games can run at higher resolutions is irrelevant.
  • Phones these days are getting more and more sophisticated, and with resolutions approaching 720p and higher, surely the limit of practicality? Anyway, does the fact that a tiny screen in your hand having a resolution that's half that of your HDTV make your HDTV any less impressive? No, of course not. A HDTV is a HDTV, a phone is a phone, two completely different devices with completely different purposes. With phones being used for everything from making calls, surfing the net, texting, sending mails, taking photos, playing apps, they too, much like PCs, are benefiting from having more screen-estate to play with.
Within each category you can argue the merits of ever increasing resolutions being worth it, but one technology having a higher resolution than another doesn't mean anything. The argument is almost as lame as saying that an older car from the 80s is more impressive than its 2010 counterpart because it can accelerate faster...
 
^ Unfortunately, just because of the lack of GT-related news lately. :indiff:
 
We are unfortunately on an informational embargo by PD, so off topic is here in its full glory.
 
It's 19 days till SONY's E3 conference, people.

Jeepers, if there was news every day, do you think we'd have much to look forward to at E3? And some people don't want to know anything even then, just a release date.

Lighten up, get a job, clean your room or something. ;)
 
I have to study all day long, for another month..
And because I'm sitting at my desk, I check GTPlanet a lot more.
It's addictive.
 
I don't know if this has been discussed at length anywhere else here, but I'll post in here so that the "mob" can see it... :dopey:

I've just been messing about with Prologue, and my experience has been completely changed by turning ABS off. (Although, I'm really annoyed that I can't do it in time trial - I should be able to forgo the leaderboards and do what the hell I want.)

Anyway, turning ABS off unlocks a whole new dynamic to the game. I will admit that the threshold is badly communicated (lots of squeal and smoke at optimal braking point, wth? No steering feedback, only a bit of screen shake) and it is usually quite a long way up the pedal travel, making it difficult to modulate.
However, I've fitted a load-cell sensor-type thingy to my G25, to replace the old spring and pot' rubbish. I did this mainly for "proper" sims before I got Prologue, so I was worried it wouldn't work - but it does! 👍
The point is, because it's pressure based, not displacement, it's far easier to maintain very light braking forces (e.g. for scrubbing into the banks at Daytona, a Godsend in the Ford GT) and also for trail braking (which is very difficult without ABS) - and the maximum pressure is adjustable (I push as hard as I expect I'd ever need to at the start of a race to calibrate, and never have any problems thereafter.)

So yeah, I took the Viper GTS out first, sans ABS... Holy moly, it doesn't want to slow down in anything other than a straight line. Locks an inside wheel at the slightest provocation.
I decide to try something a bit lighter: an S1 Elise. Much better! You can really lean on the brakes, deep into the corner and it livens up the rear end immensely.
This is the biggest improvement. Gone is the sterility of the turn in and brake into the corner (where you'd usually just understeer off if you pushed too hard), instead you can keep turning in, but the rear end just doesn't follow, and you pirouette into the gravel / armco / solid granite cordon tape. Marvellous!

Then I tried the DC5. Superb fun, managed to beat an NSX around Suzuka - AI perhaps still needs work... The tuned Clio. It actually felt like a stripped-down road car, and the thing was sooo responsive on braking into corners, such that you could set up a perfect four-wheel drift on the brakes alone, whilst already turning, brilliant around London where grip and speed are generally low, and you're relying a lot on the rhythm of the suspension. This was all with S3s. I tried the 512 with N3s, and traction under acceleration was more of a problem than braking grip. Eiger is also a whole new challenge, with the undulations really upsetting braking grip.

All in all, if they can find a way to make it more accessible to people without a load cell / wheel (can't imagine what it's like on a pad! :scared:), I think more of the same in GT5 proper will be abso-flaming-lutely amazing!!! :D
 
chepe371
Nice comic, but put that tv side to side with a 46 Aquos with HDMI running 1080P and tell me how much you can neglect then.
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Yes thats what I said. If you compare them with eachother there is a big difference.

But the game still looks amazing on an SDTV in SDTV resolutions, because the big leap in graphical capability came from the consoles. Of course it will look better in HD, but I think you are confused about what essential means. It's like those 'essential oils' you get in cosmetics. They're not essential at all...

chepe371
Also i noticed you said SD resolution. on an HDTV i suppose? its still much nicer than SD on a SDTV.
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Actually it was one of the really early full HDTVs (Hence no HDMI socket). The contrast and brightness is awful and you have to be sat directly infront of the screen to see it. It's worse than the old SDTV I have used at home for quite some time.

chepe371
So I beleive its essential, without the proper hd capable tv you just will not get the game running to its FULL potential, like having an NSX-R limited to 150KM\h, unspeakable.
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So if you didn't have a HDTV and didn't have the money to purchase a HDTV you would not buy GT5 because it won't look as good as full HD on your SDTV?

Did you run GT4 at 1080i, to get it's full potential?
 
Griffith500
I've just been messing about with Prologue, and my experience has been completely changed by turning ABS off. (Although, I'm really annoyed that I can't do it in time trial - I should be able to forgo the leaderboards and do what the hell I want.)

Anyway, turning ABS off unlocks a whole new dynamic to the game. I will admit that the threshold is badly communicated (lots of squeal and smoke at optimal braking point, wth? No steering feedback, only a bit of screen shake) and it is usually quite a long way up the pedal travel, making it difficult to modulate.
However, I've fitted a load-cell sensor-type thingy to my G25, to replace the old spring and pot' rubbish. I did this mainly for "proper" sims before I got Prologue, so I was worried it wouldn't work - but it does! 👍
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+1 about ABS off, i had it set to 1 when i used the controller, but now with the G25 i took it off and it feels A LOT better !

About the load sensor, it's the one from ap electrix right ? Damn i ordered one but they're out of stock :grumpy:
 
Zimmerd
So now it's a HD-TV thread...
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That might be my fault. It was unintentional.

Sorry about that.

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Zer0
Yup, was the first thing I did try when the Spec II was available.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=103957

Better late than never, welcome to a new game. :trouble:
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Ah yes, over two years ago!! I only got Prologue in January, and I'd followed the discussions once Spec II had been released, but didn't remember any in-depth discussion. Thanks anyway, and it is a whole new game - I love it!

Dahlsim
+1 about ABS off, i had it set to 1 when i used the controller, but now with the G25 i took it off and it feels A LOT better !

About the load sensor, it's the one from ap electrix right ? Damn i ordered one but they're out of stock :grumpy:
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Yeah, I was lucky, I just caught the tail end of a batch before Christmas. It's very good, compared to the original set-up - not sure about how it compares to other load cells. One complaint I have is the lower hinge (the main one) is too wide for the new assembly, such that it rocks unless you brace it with spacers on the bushing. The forces you put through it are sustained at a much higher level than standard, so I might be worried about the bushes, too (some people have had issues with wheelie chairs, and at first I would lever against the wheel, but I found a way of levering through both legs, so I stay put!).

Just so you know, in order for it to work with GT5:P, you need to connect it backwards (same as for the "Bodnar controller" - see here), otherwise your pedal acts as a brake release! Might save you some time on installation - unless mine was a freak :scared: I also read on here that you should swap the clutch spring over to the throttle pedal, and the brake spring onto the clutch. I can't be bothered to open mine up again...


The difference from the original G25 brake pedal is like night and day :D


OK, I'll stop touting now...
 
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