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[magburner]

Does anyone know if PD have fixed the 'drafting ghost exploit'?

What is the exploit exactly? As you know, in GT5P, if a car commits a penalty, as defined by the games penalty system, the car in question turns into a ghost, and is usually penalised for a set period of time.

The only problem with the penalty is, that although the car has been temporarily removed from play, it's slipstream has not, so it is entirely possible to draft the ghost of the car as you could any other car, and use it to gain positions.

It is not so obvious on regular tracks like Suzuka, though it is still in effect, but on tracks like Daytona, it is very obvious, and could be used to gain an unfair advantage.

In my mind, a penalty for one player should not provide a bonus for another. With the inclusion of NASCAR in GT5, it is critical that PD fix this bug, as it provides an unfair advantage, and penalties become punitive. 👍

 

[Beliall]

I just hope the penalty system is overhauled, its full of errors.

 

[nasanu]

It is not so obvious on regular tracks like Suzuka, though it is still in effect, but on tracks like Daytona, it is very obvious, and could be used to gain an unfair advantage.

It is for things like this that I wish developers employed a primatech 'one of us, one of them' approach to final stages of game development. Someone who has been around OLR for years can see people climbing to the top of leader boards using this and other techniques long before it happens. But PD will never know about it till people complain and then it is a little too late.

 

[CoolColJ]

I hope they get rid of the ghost thing, and use flags for penalties instead. And yes flags are in GT5.
Lapped cars should not turn into ghosts!

 

[analog]

I hope they get rid of the ghost thing, and use flags for penalties instead. And yes flags are in GT5.
Lapped cars should not turn into ghosts!

Totally agree as they should be a nuisance, draft provider or just a poor unlucky soul minding his own business just like they are in real life although online I can already see people ( punters ) who will do anything to avoid being lapped ( that's probably why they are ghosts ) but at least it would make it much more real and add another strategic element.

Which makes me think of another online-possibilty for endurance races, could it be that there are different classes of cars ( like at Le Mans ) competing at the same time, you know, an online 24 hour race with prototype and GT-type cars, etc. aiming for class-wins and overall wins?
If this could be done the speed ( and lap ) differences might make overtaking, lapping other cars and avoiding accidents an essential part of the race, which it won't be if they were ghosts.

 

[chepe371]

No i'm going to need a pow wow for all them asses im busting boy!

Well I hope that bulldog bark dont overload that puppy dog bite!

It's all skeets and giggles.

Has anyone seen Le Mans with Steve McQueen? (I know you older\young connaisseur-y types did).

Those cars were BEASTS to handle, at every turn you can see them oversteer wildly even on dry conditions, thats what I hope that Ferrari P4 feels like.

Little in the way of aerodynamics, crude suspension, full manual box, no power nothing no assists and old a$$ tires.

That's why I love older cars, like I love older women, they always teach you new things.

 

[d3br34k5]

Totally agree as they should be a nuisance, draft provider or just a poor unlucky soul minding his own business just like they are in real life although online I can already see people ( punters ) who will do anything to avoid being lapped ( that's probably why they are ghosts ) but at least it would make it much more real and add another strategic element..

Enter: The organized league of extraordinary gentlemen. 👍


It'll only take a few saved replay submissions to establish who's who and relegate certain drivers to the beer leagues.

With the new spectator mode, poor sportsmanship wont go unnoticed.

 

[chepe371]

With the new spectator mode, poor sportsmanship wont go unnoticed.

With FLAG rules nothing will go un-noticed, however black flags were a b***h in TOCA3 when they were handed out even if you were the vic.

 

[analog]

Enter: The organized league of extraordinary gentlemen. 👍

It'll only take a few saved replay submissions to establish who's who and relegate certain drivers to the beer leagues.

With the new spectator mode, poor sportsmanship wont go unnoticed.

This whole spectator-mode is encouraging if only for solving this issue partly as not only naming and shaming will therefore occur but the awareness of being watched could change behaviour.
Although naming and shaming ( through YouTube for example ) has the risk of being unfair itself ( as some factors aren't made clear perhaps ) and being a permanent banner or bad reputation even if behaviour and conduct has changed over time.
And even in real life racing poor sportsmanship occurs even in the highest echelons of motorsport ( for example a certain German driver making his come-back ).
Maybe a virtual post-race driver press conference explaining any accident, misconduct or perceived misconduct might solve that.

 

[wajdi1977]

http://n4g.com/news/584143/gt5-video-shows-an-ugly-bug
it's simply ridiculous,FMS3 has hundred's of bugs and many video-games sites gave it 10/10!!guy's the GT5 hate campaign is already in action!!

 

[Lain]

http://n4g.com/news/584143/gt5-video-shows-an-ugly-bug
it's simply ridiculous,FMS3 has hundred's of bugs and many video-games sites gave him 10/10!!guy's the GT5 hate campaign is already in action!!

Hey, I recall seeing that bug somewhere before...

Oh yeah, I believe something virtually identical to this happened to me in Forza 3.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Are you trying to insinuate that it isn't a problem?

 

[Lain]

Are you trying to insinuate that it isn't a problem?

I'm insinuating that the media is biased against GT5.

But it also isn't that big of a problem either. Out of the many, many hours of playing Forza 3, it only ever occurred to me once. And that's probably the case here as well. Just a freak glitch that some players may never encounter, and isn't game-ruining for those that do get to experience it.

 

[witham]

The system on gt5p doesn't work at all if a car has crashed there should be a yellow flag end of!!!

 

[Seismica]

I'm insinuating that the media is biased against GT5.

But it also isn't that big of a problem either. Out of the many, many hours of playing Forza 3, it only ever occurred to me once. And that's probably the case here as well. Just a freak glitch that some players may never encounter, and isn't game-ruining for those that do get to experience it.

GTA 3, Vice City, San Andreas and GTA 4 also had this glitch, and it was very frequent in some of them. I've never seen it mentioned in any reviews.

 

[chepe371]

http://n4g.com/news/584143/gt5-video-shows-an-ugly-bug
it's simply ridiculous,FMS3 has hundred's of bugs and many video-games sites gave him 10/10!!guy's the GT5 hate campaign is already in action!!

A texture bug in a demo you dont say....

There was also the rear draw distance issue in one of the Tokyo r246 demos, after the first turn, when looking to the rear the buildings at the corner flicker.

GT4 had a few bugs of its own, quirky ones albeit, but come on son, with the advent of built in HD's and internet connection through consoles, bugs are very very very easy to identify and fix efficiently.

 

[zod]

Why doesn't any of those gaming websites post some of those really bad Forza 3 oder Halo bugs? And those bugs are even in the final product? It's so ridiculous seeing them pointing out minor bugs (or faked loading times) in a simple show floor demo -.-

 

[wajdi1977]

Why doesn't any of those gaming websites post some of those really bad Forza 3 oder Halo bugs? And those bugs are even in the final product? It's so ridiculous seeing them pointing out minor bugs (or faked loading times) in a simple show floor demo -.-

👍👍👍

 

[Dan_]

Well, I don't believe that any media channel would explicitly point out little defects in a simple demo just to contribute to a imaginary Anti-GT5 crusade, that's ridiculous, unless they are being paid to do so, which I honestly doubt, but I'm not going into this merit.

The reason behind all the fuss about little imperfections in a simple showfloor demo, is that this game is so perfectly detailed and polished that every gaming site is trying to figure out some imperfection, just to have something to talk about, apart from saying "The best looking game so far in the PS3", "The unique GT breed and tradition", "Immense library of cars" and blablabla. Gathering attention means better sponsors to any gaming site, hence the criticism on a game that no one has ever seen yet. Nothing to be taken seriously folks.

 

[Timppaq]

It can only be a good thing to make the bugs known.. 👍 Less chance to have them in the final build

 

[gtracedriver]

http://n4g.com/news/584143/gt5-video-shows-an-ugly-bug
it's simply ridiculous,FMS3 has hundred's of bugs and many video-games sites gave it 10/10!!guy's the GT5 hate campaign is already in action!!

I have seen that video before. It is from PS beta event. More like beta version. It will not happen in retail version I am sure by chance it occurs they will probably fix it with some patch. Those game sites do not have anything good to post

 

[sems4arsenal]

Gt5 has been nominated in the gamescom awards ,hopefully this means a good showing is expected.

 

[GT]

I'll be there, so we'll find out in a week, or rather on Tuesday since that is when SONY will have their conference.

 

[hardvibes]

^^link: http://www.gamescom.de/en/gamescom/...&start=0&anzahl=10&channel=kmeigen&language=e

Category "Best of gamescom":
Gran Turismo 5 (Sony), Hall 7
Portal 2 (Valve), Hall 7 / Section A41
Crysis 2 (Crytek), Hall 6 / Section A80
Star Wars The Old Republic (LucasArts), Hall 6 / Section B66
Civilization 5 (2K), Hall 6 / Section B40

Category "Console":
MAFIA II (2K), Halle 6 / Gang B40
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood (Ubisoft Montr.), Hall 7 / Section A31
Fallout: New Vegas (Bethesda), Hall 6 / Section B41-C40
FIFA 11 (EA), Hall 6 / Section A74
Kirby's Epic Yarn (Nintendo), Hall 8 / Section B20-A21
Gran Turismo 5 (Sony), Hall 7

But I doubt it would win....Crysis 2 and Mafia II are on its way.

 

[RACECAR]

I have seen that video before. It is from PS beta event. More like beta version. It will not happen in retail version I am sure by chance it occurs they will probably fix it with some patch. Those game sites do not have anything good to post

Generally from what I've seen, those game sites are increasingly full of idiots. Every year, they have to pick as something and make it look horrible before its even out and looks like this time around, its Gran Turismo 5. I'm even willing to bet that GT5 will get low scores from alot of them because they are that biast and stupid. I wouldn't even bother reading Any of them anymore.

 

[jabofu]

Gamestop Germany lists GT5 now with the 15.11.2010 as the release date.

http://www.gamestop.de/43451_Playstation3_Gran_Turismo_5_GT5.aspx

 

[comu]

Hey guys, I'll be getting the Driving Force GT steering wheel on Monday but I'm wondering whether there will be a newer version of the wheel coming soon or any other new GT compatible wheel coming before the release date.

I was going to create a new thread for this but didn't think it was necessarily:tup:

 

[Delphic Reason]

Hey guys, I'll be getting the Driving Force GT steering wheel on Monday but I'm wondering whether there will be a newer version of the wheel coming soon or any other new GT compatible wheel coming before the release date.

I was going to create a new thread for this but didn't think it was necessarily:tup:

The Driving Force GT is a great wheel.

It was created for GT5, so it's doubtful another GT5 wheel will be released.

 

[Alex p.]

I'll be there, so we'll find out in a week, or rather on Tuesday since that is when SONY will have their conference.

Okay, I got to ask this now. Is this conference on Tuesday or Wednesday now, I heard now several times both! Anyone?

 

[Dan_]

The Driving Force GT is a great wheel.

It was created for GT5, so it's doubtful another GT5 wheel will be released.

Honestly, I was really thinking that the Signature Edition pack would feature at least a discount ticket for a G27 or even the DFGT wheel itself, but regardless of that the DFGT is a great wheel for the money.

Anyway, there were many bugs in the demos across the way to GT5 completion ( Wheelie bug for example ), but the final game should be product of intensive testing and validation, I'm quite sure many things will go unnoticed by PD's eagle eyes, the game is huge and complex, it's very hard to test all possibilities, maybe impossible, but major bugs like the wheelie bug and graphic related bugs aren't very likely to appear in the final version.