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hampus_dh
Look at the clip i provided at the time i wrote down and watch the spectators.
They are not regular spectators from what i can see but take a look by yourself and let me know what you think.

Is this a new type of spectators or just an illusion of being "premium spectators"

You can see two guys moving very fluently(?) by the tent in the background right next to the track.
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I don't think they look to spectacular. Hopefully they are better than the 5 same people doing in sync actions like the TT demo.
 
Is there going to be a trophy cabinet in GT5? It's not an important feature, but I would like some place to put the silverware I win in the races, or a spare draw for the key fobs! :lol:
 
Synwraith
I absolutely 100% understand your concerns and considerations. I live in a studio flat with my wife (for those that may be unfamiliar with the term, it's one room with a separate bathroom and kitchen....the studio flat, not the wife :lol: ) and getting a wheel was a very hard decision. WHere do you store it? How much of your useable and limited living space does it occupy?

And absolutely, you have to consider the other person. If you have just one desktop for the pc, how considerate is it for you to just clamp your wheel assembly to it to her eternal inconvenience? Do you just leave the wheel + rig in front of the TV all the time and take up all the living space? Can you afford to get a Wheelstand Pro considering it's another £100?

For the first year my wheel was attached to a plank which sat on two shoeboxes which sat on two chairs facing each other, that's half the damn flat's furniture. And every time I was finished I had to pack the whole lot away. Massive burden and inconvenience, even for someone who plays GT5P as much as I do (every day pretty much). Many days I didn't even pack it down through a degree of laziness, and my partner just had to put up with it to her eternal credit, but you have to ask yourself if you are ready to put someone through all of that.

So to just come out with a comment like "Don't you people have desktops?" does not take into consideration the living arrangements of many people. Living in what basically amounts to Central London, a studio flat is expensive enough! Don't assume to know anything about the housing arrangements of others.

But I will say, getting the wheel even in such a small place, has been 100% the best gaming purchase of my life. Not a shred of regret, ever. And when you can, a Wheelstand pro is a good purchase too.

All the best
Maz
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Then remove the wheel after use, that's what I do. My PS3 and PC share the same monitor, after each gaming session with the wheel I remove it, it's easy enough to do. The pedals go onto the carpet and hold fine with the retractable teeth at the bottom.
If you use a desktop computer then you have enough space to setup a wheel

Other than that there is a retractable setup you can get called the Wheel Stand Pro which is solid and can be packed away whole, but it does cost a bit.

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magicalgin
Damn first it's the trees, and now people are complaining about spectators too?!
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And that's just because the gods at PD blessed us with skidmarks, otherwise there would be more moaning. :lol:
 
There was a picture showing you could select rain tyres.....(pretty much confirms rain in GT5!)
No one cares about rain?

Okay then... Spectators are pretty cool huh?
 
vangus
http://translate.google.com/transla...2010/palio-siena-senza-pace-71851694461.shtml

http://translate.google.com/transla...-palio-di-siena-allattacco-di-gran-turismo-5/

;-)
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Did you read the rest of my post you quoted vangus?

I appreciate you are not from England and English may not be your first language, google translate doesn't always do a very good job of translation. This is an excerpt of the first link you provided
SIENA, August 20, 2010 - No peace for the Palio of Siena. After the vicissitudes of his career on August 16, won for Tartuca Luigi Bruschelli (called braids) riding on Istriceddu, web check another grain: the video game that Sony will launch in November, "Gran Turismo 5, provides for a ride go-kart track along the Piazza del Campo where the Palio. For the Sienese use of the square is sacred, especially with the colors and crests of the Contrada.
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Honestly this is not good use of English, I can't think of a single occasion where I've spoke about the vicissitudes of anything let alone someones career. Maybe you can tell us how we would web check another grain . . .

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That is why I asked an Italian speaker to translate the articles for us.
 
chepe371
Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the "Consortium for the Protection of the Palio of Siena" bitching because of the Contrada Badges(which are copyrighted) on the side of the course, not the course itself or the location.
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They're just a bunch of greedy overly proud stuck-up whiners, apparently you can't expect such a beautiful city to be inhabited by as much beautiful people. My opinion.
 
The rally spectators have always been "Premium". Whilst when racing on suzuka and looking into the crowd, their all some 2d cardboard Pixels.. For GT4, GT5.prologue, and as much as we've seen from GT5.

Why is this a problem now?
 
as i said before, the flags HAVE to go anyway, since the Palio officers already said that the won't give permission; while for the track itself is the City board that has to decide.

for those who are saying "its a public place", the place is public indeed, but the shape of the track is not, and is specifically build like that for the Palio.
The Siena's citizens are quite conservative about the palio traditions and they do not want to mix up a kart-race with their famus horse race.

P.s. if it wasn't clear I do speak Italian

Joe
 
hampus_dh
We already knew rain was coming. Weather has been confirmed.
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Yes that's right. But good to finally see some kind of proof it's actually in.
Not al the things that Yamauchi say's in interviews are going to happen. It looks like sometimes he gets a little ahead of himself.
 
BenzAMG
There was a picture showing you could select rain tyres.....(pretty much confirms rain in GT5!)
No one cares about rain?

Okay then... Spectators are pretty cool huh?
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We've known about rain. Now we just hope it looks as good as PGR4's!
 
Feschka
a few free copies of GT5 to the "contradaioli" and the 🤬 is solved... :D
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Calm down Kaz, let the "family" take care of the issue: :D
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Sorry, couldn't resist. :D Anyway, if the flags are the achilles heel of the track, there's no reason to drop the whole track, just remove the freaking flags. Put one of these instead -> :gtpflag:
 
Dan_
Calm down Kaz, let the "family" take care of the issue: :D
Sorry, couldn't resist. :D Anyway, if the flags are the achilles heel of the track, there's no reason to drop the whole track, just remove the freaking flags. Put one of these instead -> :gtpflag:
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Agree. 👍

They even threatened to confiscate GT5's copies.
Make no mistake, contradaioli, in that case there will only be one word for ya: JIHAAAD!!!!!!! :mad::D:gtpflag:
 
mani_23
The rally spectators have always been "Premium". Whilst when racing on suzuka and looking into the crowd, their all some 2d cardboard Pixels.. For GT4, GT5.prologue, and as much as we've seen from GT5.

Why is this a problem now?
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Who said it was a problem?

I just pointed out that there are infact "premium" spectators at the nurburgring now, which might mean we will get it at other tracks like Le Mans for example.
This is a good thing but as always there are people complaining on details. (not aimed at you)
 
Dan_
Calm down Kaz, let the "family" take care of the issue: :D
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..Just don't forget to return the favor, My name is Gran Torleone.... :D

hampus_dh
Who said it was a problem?

I just pointed out that there are infact "premium" spectators at the nurburgring now, which might mean we will get it at other tracks like Le Mans for example.
This is a good thing but as always there are people complaining on details. (not aimed at you)
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Exactly, people don't just complain about nothing, they complain about a problem (The problem however, a problem to them, and not people that can just live without small details- Me). Not only that, but people also make jokes about it (I do have a sense of humor, though it gets quite annoying to hear, and also stupid when the issue was always there)

(Not aimed at you)
 
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Dan_
Calm down Kaz, let the "family" take care of the issue: :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. :D Anyway, if the flags are the achilles heel of the track, there's no reason to drop the whole track, just remove the freaking flags. Put one of these instead -> :gtpflag:
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I bet he already send Translator-san on his way to sort this issue ( at least given that he also speaks Italian ).;)
Seems like a minor issue frankly, one that could easily be solved I guess, the thing that should worry the citizens of Siena is that apparantly these institutions in charge of their city's heritage and culture are busy following a games show.........
Although ( being cynical for now ) it would be the perfect alibi or excuse for any possible delay with those institutions taking the fla(g)k.:lol:
 
Mr_Joe
for those who are saying "its a public place", the place is public indeed, but the shape of the track is not, and is specifically build like that for the Palio.
The Siena's citizens are quite conservative about the palio traditions and they do not want to mix up a kart-race with their famus horse race.

P.s. if it wasn't clear I do speak Italian

Joe
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OK who cares about the flags, that's just PD's attention to detail, and the Sienese own them and they dont like "mixing" with kart racing ok no big problem.

But remove an entire circuit\location?
For PD to include such obscure locations can only be complimentary to them.

Isnt the the palio run on dirt? What does the piazza look on any day of the week?

Maybe PD knew about the Sieneses anal-retention and went ahead with it anyway knowing it would make "free" advertising at relatively small cost.
 
magburner
Is there going to be a trophy cabinet in GT5? It's not an important feature, but I would like some place to put the silverware I win in the races, or a spare draw for the key fobs! :lol:
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I actually really like the idea of a trophy cabinet though I'm not sure PD will include it.
Would be really nice to see all the different trophies though, Morale boost :sly: lol
 

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