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Hi all GT fans !
The announcement of the final release date being 24th november was a great news ! Finally we will be playing the game after all those years of waiting (thanks Jordan for keeping us up to date on GT5 info all those years)
But now the game being gold and shipped all over the world, GT5 review copies are also sent to reviewers. It would b great to share review scores here and reading what gaming industry journalists have to say about GT5, it is also a great opportunity for polyphony digital to get feedback to make GT6 even a better game.
Until now no gaming journalist reviewed GT5 yet, I will update this thread whenever new reviews/scores get published.
My expectations for reviews main content/scores :
- some reviewers will surely give GT5 a 10/10 score, saying that the game sets a new standard in the industry and its greatness surpass by far any of its drawbacks.
- but I expect the majority will just give the game 9/10 and even some will give it 8/10,
mentioning the following critics :
- Not all cars are premium (inconsistency critique, only 220 premium cars out of 1030)
- Not all tracks have Time/weather (inconsistency critique)
- Only 27 tracks (with variations), the number of tracks could have been bigger and some important real tracks arent included in the game (lack of content for the tracks critique)
- some reviewers could also criticize the online experience and mention some online problems (I am sure polyphony will release patches for that), some will even compare the online GT5 experience with that of Forza3.
But overall I am pretty sure the game will get in metacritic an average of 93-94% score which is great.
those are the metacritic scores for previous GTs :
Gran Turismo 1 (96/100)
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation/gran-turismo/trailers?video=1101377
Gran Turismo 2 (93/100)
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation/gran-turismo-2/trailers?video=1101377
Gran Turismo 3 (95/100)
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/gran-turismo-3-a-spec
Gran Turismo 4 (89/100)
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/gran-turismo-4
Update : 23 novembre 2010 : First review is up with résumé !
The first review of GT5 is finally up !
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/articles/0001/00013884-gran-turismo-5-test.htm
The French gamers were the first to receive the games (french retailers didnt respect the release date of the game) so it comes as no surprise that the first review is a French review too ! from a very famous (IMO the most famous) popular and old gaming website in france : www.jeuxvideos.com (generally I like the reviews of this website, they are generally fair and rarely extremist, I like especially the very useful users review scores and comments)
But unfortunately their review of GT5 is unprofessional to say the least (I suppose the reviewer Ravaol is not into simulation racing games, but thats just a hypothesis with no proof lol), I wrote this résumé of his review so you could judge by yourself :
Graphics : 15/20
The game is fluid and overall good looking, but a lot of glitches, aliasing (on shapes, on shadows ) and graphical problems (pop ups, pixelisation of some texture ), the outside of tracks arent detailed, and weather is not as impressive as in trailers, visual damage is limited and disappointing
Gameplay : 14/20
The most disappointing aspect of the game, outdated gameplay designed to gtfans only with no innovation and similar to other gt games. Can we still take turns backing on other cars or track fences ? yes we can. Can we still cheat and cut turns and drive out of asphalt without any punishment ? yes we can (except in online races). The AI is still following the exact same line no matter what you do bumping on you or ou bump on it ? yes its still like the old days damage is very limited and only on premium cars the outside camera view has very limited sense of speed (unlike the good sense of speed of cockpit), you cant see too much when racing at night which makes the night races frustrating and unplayable and cars feel rigid like old gt days, and applying gt gameplay to karts is a bad idea and rally as always not very good the good thing with gameplay is that each car feels distinguishable...
Durée de vie (Lasting Appeal or content or durability of the game) : 17/20
A lot of content but little substance (why 1000 cars when we will only drive a hundred of them and a lot are variables of the same car with inconsistent quality premium 200 with very limited disappointing damage that needsto play suicide mission to get some effects and the other 800 are standard with no damage and no cockpit view), also not a lot of tracks, and weather/day night not on all tracks the online is disappointing, very simplistic, not well designed (when you finish a race you return to the main menu ) and with a lot of connexion problems
Edit : concerning the content of the game, I forget to mention what the reviewer said about the B-spec mode and photomode and leveling system and track editor :
B-Spec mode is very limited (very few options : accelerate, overtake, decelerate), it is more a way to earn easy money than anything else...for the photomode its reserved for premium cars on specific locations and you cant pause the game to take photos...concerning the leveling system its a good thing but the problem is with the credit system, you need too much money to buy new cars eventhough you are on a high level, which is really unbalanced...concerning the track editor its very limited and more a gadget than anything else...
Sound : 15/20
Variable quality like the whole game, disappointing sound effects, inconsistent engine sounds (some are great and some horrible).
Overall score : 14/20
After 5 years of development time and waiting, GT is no more the real driving simulator, it is outdated compared to other racing games especially its gameplay, it is designed to gtfans only with very little innovation, but thats not to say its a bad game, its still a simulation game that conserves a personality and captures the essence and variety of cars.
Now to my humble personal comment about this first review of GT5 :
I think the review is unprofessional, the reviewer has no idea of what he is talking about whe he insists that gameplay in GT5 is outdated...he clearly has a restricted vision of what is gameplay in a racing simulation, he underestimates the importance of gameplay physics in a simulation racing game, he says the gameplay is outdated because you can cheat without consequences, thats only a small part of the gameplay experience, the most important part is the driving expericene (he has also repeated the now cliché and not so accurate description about GT games being driving games and not racing games), the gameplay physics of GT5 are among the best in the world and he is wrong when he says gameplay is outdated and cars feel rigid... contradicting himself when he says that each car feels distinguishable..how the driving of cars is satisfying, cars feel distinguishable (thats the gameplay physics) but the cars feel rigid and gamplay is outdated ?! thats a huge contradiction that suffice to make this review unprofessional and biased...
Update : 24 november 2010
IGN review is up, 8.5/10
enjoy :
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/113/1136103p1.html
CLOSING COMMENTS of the IGN review
Gran Turismo 5 is a 10/10 simulator wrapped up in a 5/10 game its driving is as exhilarating as anything thats gone before, and its slavish obsession with the minutiae of many of its cars ensure it's an encyclopaedia of automotive delights. Its brilliance on the track, however is matched by its sloppiness off of it, and theres a lack of polish that would at one time have seemed sacrilegious to the series. Ultimately its driving wins out to ensure that its still a great game, but it leaves that nagging doubt; this could have been a masterpiece were it not for the fact that Polyphony was so absorbed with the detail that it took its eye off the ball.
Eurogamer review is up, 9/10
enjoy
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-24-gran-turismo-5-review?page=1
Edit :
a lot more reviews are up !
destructoid : 10/10
http://www.destructoid.com/review-gran-turismo-5-188383.phtm
Even beyond the 1,000 cars, dozens of track variations, countless modes, gorgeous visuals and mountains of options, Gran Turismo 5 has something more that speaks to the world's car lovers and racing fans. The level of care taken by the people at Polyphony Digital shines in every aspect of this title, and this makes for a racing game that truly has no parallel. Gran Turismo 5 is a massive love letter to those that love cars. This is their dream videogame.
joystiq : 4/5
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/24/gran-turismo-5-review
CVG : 8/10
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=277364
Gamepro : 4.5/5
http://www.gamepro.com/article/reviews/217386/gran-turismo-5/
Playstation Lifestyle : 10/10
http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/11/24/ps3-review-gran-turismo-5/
Gran Turismo 5 is the pinnacle of the racing simulation genre. After years of technological progression, hardware is finally powerful enough to provide Polyphony Digital the platform needed to deliver such an unbelievably lifelike experience. Kaz Yamauchis passion for the racing sphere shines through every aspect of the game. The incredibly-detailed cars, the slick presentation, the spot-on physics. Polyphony Digital brought its A-game. Nothing else on the market can come close to the realism and immersion you feel throughout. Gran Turismo 5 is virtual racing at its very best.
PlayStation LifeStyles Final Score 10/10
+Gameplay is the best in the genre
+Cars, tracks, even menus everything is presented gorgeously
+Tons of modes and new features really help to expand on the driving sim experience
Update :
the average metacritic score is now : 86/100 based on 10 reviews
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/gran-turismo-5
I think the average score will improve over time, reviewers need more time to review the game, especially the online content...
The announcement of the final release date being 24th november was a great news ! Finally we will be playing the game after all those years of waiting (thanks Jordan for keeping us up to date on GT5 info all those years)
But now the game being gold and shipped all over the world, GT5 review copies are also sent to reviewers. It would b great to share review scores here and reading what gaming industry journalists have to say about GT5, it is also a great opportunity for polyphony digital to get feedback to make GT6 even a better game.
Until now no gaming journalist reviewed GT5 yet, I will update this thread whenever new reviews/scores get published.
My expectations for reviews main content/scores :
- some reviewers will surely give GT5 a 10/10 score, saying that the game sets a new standard in the industry and its greatness surpass by far any of its drawbacks.
- but I expect the majority will just give the game 9/10 and even some will give it 8/10,
mentioning the following critics :
- Not all cars are premium (inconsistency critique, only 220 premium cars out of 1030)
- Not all tracks have Time/weather (inconsistency critique)
- Only 27 tracks (with variations), the number of tracks could have been bigger and some important real tracks arent included in the game (lack of content for the tracks critique)
- some reviewers could also criticize the online experience and mention some online problems (I am sure polyphony will release patches for that), some will even compare the online GT5 experience with that of Forza3.
But overall I am pretty sure the game will get in metacritic an average of 93-94% score which is great.
those are the metacritic scores for previous GTs :
Gran Turismo 1 (96/100)
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation/gran-turismo/trailers?video=1101377
Gran Turismo 2 (93/100)
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation/gran-turismo-2/trailers?video=1101377
Gran Turismo 3 (95/100)
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/gran-turismo-3-a-spec
Gran Turismo 4 (89/100)
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/gran-turismo-4
Update : 23 novembre 2010 : First review is up with résumé !
The first review of GT5 is finally up !
http://www.jeuxvideo.com/articles/0001/00013884-gran-turismo-5-test.htm
The French gamers were the first to receive the games (french retailers didnt respect the release date of the game) so it comes as no surprise that the first review is a French review too ! from a very famous (IMO the most famous) popular and old gaming website in france : www.jeuxvideos.com (generally I like the reviews of this website, they are generally fair and rarely extremist, I like especially the very useful users review scores and comments)
But unfortunately their review of GT5 is unprofessional to say the least (I suppose the reviewer Ravaol is not into simulation racing games, but thats just a hypothesis with no proof lol), I wrote this résumé of his review so you could judge by yourself :
Graphics : 15/20
The game is fluid and overall good looking, but a lot of glitches, aliasing (on shapes, on shadows ) and graphical problems (pop ups, pixelisation of some texture ), the outside of tracks arent detailed, and weather is not as impressive as in trailers, visual damage is limited and disappointing
Gameplay : 14/20
The most disappointing aspect of the game, outdated gameplay designed to gtfans only with no innovation and similar to other gt games. Can we still take turns backing on other cars or track fences ? yes we can. Can we still cheat and cut turns and drive out of asphalt without any punishment ? yes we can (except in online races). The AI is still following the exact same line no matter what you do bumping on you or ou bump on it ? yes its still like the old days damage is very limited and only on premium cars the outside camera view has very limited sense of speed (unlike the good sense of speed of cockpit), you cant see too much when racing at night which makes the night races frustrating and unplayable and cars feel rigid like old gt days, and applying gt gameplay to karts is a bad idea and rally as always not very good the good thing with gameplay is that each car feels distinguishable...
Durée de vie (Lasting Appeal or content or durability of the game) : 17/20
A lot of content but little substance (why 1000 cars when we will only drive a hundred of them and a lot are variables of the same car with inconsistent quality premium 200 with very limited disappointing damage that needsto play suicide mission to get some effects and the other 800 are standard with no damage and no cockpit view), also not a lot of tracks, and weather/day night not on all tracks the online is disappointing, very simplistic, not well designed (when you finish a race you return to the main menu ) and with a lot of connexion problems
Edit : concerning the content of the game, I forget to mention what the reviewer said about the B-spec mode and photomode and leveling system and track editor :
B-Spec mode is very limited (very few options : accelerate, overtake, decelerate), it is more a way to earn easy money than anything else...for the photomode its reserved for premium cars on specific locations and you cant pause the game to take photos...concerning the leveling system its a good thing but the problem is with the credit system, you need too much money to buy new cars eventhough you are on a high level, which is really unbalanced...concerning the track editor its very limited and more a gadget than anything else...
Sound : 15/20
Variable quality like the whole game, disappointing sound effects, inconsistent engine sounds (some are great and some horrible).
Overall score : 14/20
After 5 years of development time and waiting, GT is no more the real driving simulator, it is outdated compared to other racing games especially its gameplay, it is designed to gtfans only with very little innovation, but thats not to say its a bad game, its still a simulation game that conserves a personality and captures the essence and variety of cars.
Now to my humble personal comment about this first review of GT5 :
I think the review is unprofessional, the reviewer has no idea of what he is talking about whe he insists that gameplay in GT5 is outdated...he clearly has a restricted vision of what is gameplay in a racing simulation, he underestimates the importance of gameplay physics in a simulation racing game, he says the gameplay is outdated because you can cheat without consequences, thats only a small part of the gameplay experience, the most important part is the driving expericene (he has also repeated the now cliché and not so accurate description about GT games being driving games and not racing games), the gameplay physics of GT5 are among the best in the world and he is wrong when he says gameplay is outdated and cars feel rigid... contradicting himself when he says that each car feels distinguishable..how the driving of cars is satisfying, cars feel distinguishable (thats the gameplay physics) but the cars feel rigid and gamplay is outdated ?! thats a huge contradiction that suffice to make this review unprofessional and biased...
Update : 24 november 2010
IGN review is up, 8.5/10
enjoy :
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/113/1136103p1.html
CLOSING COMMENTS of the IGN review
Gran Turismo 5 is a 10/10 simulator wrapped up in a 5/10 game its driving is as exhilarating as anything thats gone before, and its slavish obsession with the minutiae of many of its cars ensure it's an encyclopaedia of automotive delights. Its brilliance on the track, however is matched by its sloppiness off of it, and theres a lack of polish that would at one time have seemed sacrilegious to the series. Ultimately its driving wins out to ensure that its still a great game, but it leaves that nagging doubt; this could have been a masterpiece were it not for the fact that Polyphony was so absorbed with the detail that it took its eye off the ball.
Eurogamer review is up, 9/10
enjoy
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-24-gran-turismo-5-review?page=1
Edit :
a lot more reviews are up !
destructoid : 10/10
http://www.destructoid.com/review-gran-turismo-5-188383.phtm
Even beyond the 1,000 cars, dozens of track variations, countless modes, gorgeous visuals and mountains of options, Gran Turismo 5 has something more that speaks to the world's car lovers and racing fans. The level of care taken by the people at Polyphony Digital shines in every aspect of this title, and this makes for a racing game that truly has no parallel. Gran Turismo 5 is a massive love letter to those that love cars. This is their dream videogame.
joystiq : 4/5
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/24/gran-turismo-5-review
CVG : 8/10
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=277364
Gamepro : 4.5/5
http://www.gamepro.com/article/reviews/217386/gran-turismo-5/
Playstation Lifestyle : 10/10
http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/11/24/ps3-review-gran-turismo-5/
Gran Turismo 5 is the pinnacle of the racing simulation genre. After years of technological progression, hardware is finally powerful enough to provide Polyphony Digital the platform needed to deliver such an unbelievably lifelike experience. Kaz Yamauchis passion for the racing sphere shines through every aspect of the game. The incredibly-detailed cars, the slick presentation, the spot-on physics. Polyphony Digital brought its A-game. Nothing else on the market can come close to the realism and immersion you feel throughout. Gran Turismo 5 is virtual racing at its very best.
PlayStation LifeStyles Final Score 10/10
+Gameplay is the best in the genre
+Cars, tracks, even menus everything is presented gorgeously
+Tons of modes and new features really help to expand on the driving sim experience
Update :
the average metacritic score is now : 86/100 based on 10 reviews
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/gran-turismo-5
I think the average score will improve over time, reviewers need more time to review the game, especially the online content...
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