GT5 Review scores (Update :Average metacritic score)

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A scoring system isn't a sliding scale to suit big names. It's a really weird quirk of the human psyche that we look to review scores so highly, when the only review score that counts is your own.

So if we're going to use a scoring system, it simply has to be objective.
 
Ubiquitous
I don't see how GT5 deserves a 10/10 going by those scores.

At best it deserves a 9/10 and parity with Forza 3. Since it has superior physics and visuals (tracks/premiums), both have inadequate track selections and Forza 3 has incredibly good customisation options. Add in the fact that Forza 3 has a much more balanced car selection featuring far more 'important' cars than GT5 and I'd say you have a tie.

If the reviewer wants to be picky, they could probably bash GT5 down to an 8/10 no problem.
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This is basically how I feel. Parity with FM3; each does certain things better.

There are two giant unknowns still hovering over GT5 though, that can raise or lower it's score: we still don't know exactly how online play is going to be handled (which makes or breaks a racing game these days), and we still have yet to see the extent of the random track generator.

If this was released 2 years ago, I'd expect a higher review. At the tail end of 2010... GT is no longer completely and utterly without competition.
 
GT5 Sceptic
I'd personally ignore any review which doesn't remove scores for it being a compromised product, because many publications use this to put down other games and GT5's a pretty special case where it has carry-over content from the last gen.
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COD does the same thing and it continually gets 9s or above from publications and this is by adding only a few measly things. Black Ops is a good example.
 
Those talking about Forza 3 being better. I have the game. It lacks a mass produced steering wheel(PD and Sony got this right with DFGT), night racing, has bad lighting for tracks(eye sore), and the cockpits are not properly modeled or something doesn't work at all in the cockpit view! Forza 1,2, and 3, I'm done. Forza no more! Kinectable racing due next title:lol:
 
The amount of content and quality is more than any other video game. So it should get good ratings for sure.


GT5 Sceptic
Compromised because they decided to include work they had already done years ago and then removed some functionality. They added this because they couldn't reach a higher number of cars than their main rival, so marketing have forced the old cars on the game to boost the box numbers. Numbers sell.

Kaz, widely regarded as a perfectionist, is almost certainly not going to have gone to work the day after GT4 launched and said "GT5 will only be 20% next-gen".

I have always said that it should have been premium cars only, as then the whole game is next-gen and you'd know no different. If I or anyone ndesperately needed to play GT4's line-up, we already could.
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Crap.

GT premiums and standard was decided some 3-4yrs ago and what main rival lol ?They just wanted to make best GT game and they think they have done it.
 
9/10 I think this will get generally.
85 metacritic score.

ISR have said they will put it in a head to head with Forza.
ISR will be the bad guys round here when they edge it in favour of Forza.

I've got Forza and still play and enjoy it.
I will get GT5 because it's a genre I like and my G27 needs food.

I wish Microsoft would let my G27 work on my Xbox.
Actually I'd wish Microsoft would let turn 10 have 5 years to kick out a game too.

Well both games will/are good console racers and should provide long term fun.

I should really get my arse in PC racing the consoles seem limited in this genre.
 
GTsimms
Those talking about Forza 3 being better. I have the game. It lacks a mass produced steering wheel(PD and Sony got this right with DFGT), night racing, has bad lighting for tracks(eye sore), and the cockpits are not properly modeled or something doesn't work at all in the cockpit view! Forza 1,2, and 3, I'm done. Forza no more! Kinectable racing due next title:lol:
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I thought people played these sort of games because they like cars, not simply the features on the box. FM3 might be flawed, but you can still drive historic Porsche road cars, icons such as the Ferrari 250 TR, Ford Focus RS, Lancia 037, Audi R15 et al and that's not something GT5 can boast, is it? I'll expect the usual 'Oh it's only Porsche' BS, but even non-Porsche fans would realise their importance and their standing within our chosen passion.

gtracedriver
GT premiums and standard was decided some 3-4yrs ago and what main rival lol ?They just wanted to make best GT game and they think they have done it.
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What main rival? That console seller called FM3 is pretty obviously a rival, whether you wish to be an obtuse idiot and ignore it or not. If FM3 was such a push-over for Sony, it would have launched in October last year.

Kaz must have had a complete personality change if he thinks he's happy with this game. The only people happy with this game will be Sony's bean counters.
 
Black Ops received less than stellar reviews for the same reasons GT5 might. It's still one of the best selling games ever after a few weeks.
 
Spagetti69
9/10 I think this will get generally.
85 metacritic score.

ISR have said they will put it in a head to head with Forza.
ISR will be the bad guys round here when they edge it in favour of Forza.

I've got Forza and still play and enjoy it.
I will get GT5 because it's a genre I like and my G27 needs food.

I wish Microsoft would let my G27 work on my Xbox.
Actually I'd wish Microsoft would let turn 10 have 5 years to kick out a game too.

Well both games will/are good console racers and should provide long term fun.

I should really get my arse in PC racing the consoles seem limited in this genre.
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Forza3 released 4yrs after release of 360 same with GT5. Forza2 was made 2yrs before and same with GT5P.


GT5 Sceptic
I thought people played these sort of games because they like cars, not simply the features on the box. FM3 might be flawed, but you can still drive historic Porsche road cars, icons such as the Ferrari 250 TR, Ford Focus RS, Lancia 037, Audi R15 et al and that's not something GT5 can boast, is it? I'll expect the usual 'Oh it's only Porsche' BS, but even non-Porsche fans would realise their importance and their standing within our chosen passion.



What main rival? That console seller called FM3 is pretty obviously a rival, whether you wish to be an obtuse idiot and ignore it or not. If FM3 was such a push-over for Sony, it would have launched in October last year.

Kaz must have had a complete personality change if he thinks he's happy with this game. The only people happy with this game will be Sony's bean counters.
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:lol: There is day and night difference between the 2 games both in quantity and quality. GT PSP, 3D support are probably the reason it probably took more time and some other issues I guess
 
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Ubiquitous
I don't see how GT5 deserves a 10/10 going by those scores.

At best it deserves a 9/10 and parity with Forza 3. Since it has superior physics and visuals (tracks/premiums), both have inadequate track selections and Forza 3 has incredibly good customisation options. Add in the fact that Forza 3 has a much more balanced car selection featuring far more 'important' cars than GT5 and I'd say you have a tie.

If the reviewer wants to be picky, they could probably bash GT5 down to an 8/10 no problem.
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To give you an idea of how one reviewers opinion is irrelevant Eurogamer didn't even know the difference between premium and standard cars, it had to be pointed out in the comments section. Not to mention the site has a history of not only slating GT5 but having a serious lack of coverage for what is a AAA title.

Regardless of that four areas push GT5 clear of Forza 3 (which I owned) -

1. Physics
2. Logitech wheel support
3. Weather
4. Day/night transistions

You could cut GT5's car and track list by 50% and the above features still push it ahead of anything else on consoles for a sim enthusiast.

If it was a close run thing I'd still have a 360 and Forza 3 sat underneath my TV.
 
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I like the fact that they added in the standard cars. Sure I wish they all could have been premium but there are some really cool cars carried over from GT4 that I would really miss if they were not there and if there were no standards many of those cars would get left out. Many people would be complaining that one of thier favorite cars got left out and would be mad because of it.

Forza 2 and 3 have some cool cars and they look good. I like that Forza has Firebirds and wish they were in GT5 as well but you can not have everything. Forza falls flat where they allow AWD on almost everything and allow AWD cars to have more power than FWD or RWD cars in a given class. For the most part in FM3 AWD dominates all of the non race classes. Also no user setup public lobbies and no tuning while in lobby brings it's ranking much lower than that of Forza 2.

Not having seen the depth of career mode nor the online modes of GT5 it is hard to give it a ranking but if the online is as good as Forza 2 then I would give it at least 85 or more. Forza 3 I would give a 70 and Forza 2 an 80.

Edit: Also Forza 3 has around 100 track layouts but many of them just feel like filler to get the number up to 100. The benchmark tracks are a joke and some of the sidewinders are not much better, neither of which appear in career mode. These account for about 1/3 of thier 100 or so layouts.
 
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Luminis
Well, I for one would've preffered GT5 that way. The way they are now, the standards seem rather pointless to me.

And, well, they did spend some time on them. Even if it was just to get the (texture) scratches and dents done. That time should've gone to something else, really.
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agree 100%

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about the score...I don't think they gonna get better scores than forza did.and this is because the game is unfinished.
 
I agree 100% people whine too much.

If you do not like the product, do not buy it.
If many of you want to improve GT5, either go to Kaz himself ask to work for him or make your own damn game.

too many babies in here.
 
GT5 Sceptic
What main rival? That console seller called FM3 is pretty obviously a rival, whether you wish to be an obtuse idiot and ignore it or not. If FM3 was such a push-over for Sony, it would have launched in October last year.
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If we're talking sales, then FM3 is a pushover whether you choose to accept that or not. 2 million copies sold, as opposed to Prologue's 5 million and GT3's 14 million. As for baseless allegations that GT5's release was delayed to avoid competing with Forza 3.. :lol:
 
Mine if I were a critic: 6-7/10

I hope GT5 will received deserved middle of the road lower score, it doesn't deserve much: too disappointing, too old (look at the list of cars!!! only 80 are really updated!), too stuffed with half-made features.
 
No, not babies. People open-minded enough to apply objectivity to the situation.

Nobody would have accepted what GT5 is turning out to be five years ago, so stop acting like the game is beyond criticism. Forza was created because of GT. When the benchmark appears to be releasing as an unfinished product, then reviewers should absolutely call it out on that.
 
To answer the question put forward by the OP, I'd say around a nine, possibly an eight if we're talking about some of the harsher reviewers. The issue of Standard cars is just too much of an eyesore to reward the game a perfect score. :indiff:
 
There should be a Forza vs. GT thread somewehere, so people can compare both games as much as they want.

NoxNoctis Umbra
I agree 100% people whine too much.

If you do not like the product, do not buy it.
If many of you want to improve GT5, either go to Kaz himself ask to work for him or make your own damn game.

too many babies in here.
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Too many people in here who don't understand you can apply criticism to something you like. Or even love.

If you fail to understand that concept, I sure hope you learn to understand it before your next relationship starts.
 
gtracedriver
Forza3 released 4yrs after release of 360 same with GT5. Forza2 was made 2yrs before and same with GT5P.
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So GT5 took 4 years.
This is a question I've asked and no ones answered.
Most say it took between 5 and 6 years.

I didn't know.

I think Forza 2 edges GTP.
I can't say on the rest till ive played them.

Only my opinion mind.
 
Dude27
Mine if I were a critic: 6-7/10

I hope GT5 will received deserved middle of the road lower score, it doesn't deserve much: too disappointing, too old (look at the list of cars!!! only 80 are really updated!), too stuffed with half-made features.
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This post sums up how ridiculous much of the criticism is.
 
Spagetti69
So GT5 took 4 years.
This is a question I've asked and no ones answered.
Most say it took between 5 and 6 years.

I didn't know.

I think Forza 2 edges GTP.
I can't say on the rest till ive played them.

Only my opinion mind.
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360 was released in 2005 Forza2 in 2007, Forza3 in 2009
PS3 was released in 2006 GT5P in 2008, GT5 in 2010
 
What, so in your world, a half-finished job is fine because they tried?

Psychologists should study this GT phenomena, as it shows up certain people to be quite odd.
 
GT5 Sceptic
No, not babies. People open-minded enough to apply objectivity to the situation.

Nobody would have accepted what GT5 is turning out to be five years ago, so stop acting like the game is beyond criticism. Forza was created because of GT. When the benchmark appears to be releasing as an unfinished product, then reviewers should absolutely call it out on that.
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Well, you were talking about releasing an unfinished product.

It seems nobody here remembers a game that was released without shift animations...
 
5Liter
-No E30 M3 (FAIL)
-No premium Aston Martin's, or even the DBS (FAIL)
-No Porsche, No Premium RUF! (SUPER FAIL)
-No Koenigsegg (UBER FAIL)
-No premium road-going Pagani (EXTREME FAIL)
-No road going Diablo, Countach isn't premium?! (SMH)
-No F430 Scudera (WTF)
-The Veyron is standard, and the SS isn't even in the game!
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Here's the reviewed version of this post with my own take on the situation

- Premium DB9, but yes no DBS (SHAME)
- Still no Porsche, and no Premium RUF (MEH)
- Still no Koenigsegg (BIGGER SHAME)
- Still no road-going Pagani, but then there's the R (OH WELL)
- No Diablo, no premium Countach, but then there's the Miura (SHRUG)
- Oh wait it's here (YAY)
- Veyron Standard yes, SS has barely been around yet so understandable (BIG SHRUG)

I'll still buy it, besides we have plenty of other cars even if we reject the standard cars, which I won't, because I use bumper car and thus don't care about either cockpits or visible damage on my own car while the other standard cars on rack will be not be as visible

I know some are really disappointed, but hey, enjoy what you have of it.

P.S. those who say they will stick to only premiums won't, they will buy a standard car... eventually...
 

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