GTP's Hot Version Touge Showdown

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Onboy123
Oi Tak, whatever happened to you "spicing up" my FC? I didn't turn your offer down, you know? :p I just joked about it making me look like a fool if you make it faster. :lol:

Haha, okay...phew lol

Mat123
Nice. Anyways, have you seen the other entrants for MAX that needs testing?

-rob's GT-R
-HaoleHatingWRX's Impreza?

They're both on the previous page.

Havent tried those two yet but lets see how these two will do
 
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RUF CTR "Yellowbird" '87 - Extra Schnell Edition


Vital Stats:

HP: 655
Weight: 1150 KG
PP: 587
Ballast: NONE - Ballast Free Tune.
Power Parts Installed: Stage 3 ENGINE Tuning - LOW RPM Turbo

Suspension:


Ride Height: +20/+20
Spring Rates: 7.0/8.8
Dampers Extension: 4/1
Dampers Compression: 6/10
Anti Roll Bars: 3/7


Camber Angle: 1.3/2.7
Toe Angle: -0.38/+1.00



Brakes: 6/4 (Tweak to your preference)

LSD: 14/50/8


Transmission Settings:
1: 2.622
2: 2.048
3: 1.676
4: 1.380
5: 1.121
6: 0.722 (Largest, Not used)
FN: 3.425
Top Speed: 137 MPH
Top Speed (TOP): 234 MPH

Fast Lap
Eiger(Online): 1:05.997 - Real Grip ON, Tire Wear OFF, ABS=1.


Notes:

Launch the car in 3rd Gear. You may also use 2nd Gear. Very little difference.

Please drive this car with care, Full throttle is ONLY reserved for straights. The calmer you are with the car, the better your lap times will be. Sliding the rear especially at the corner before the tunnel will result in large time losses.
 
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it there still a spot for max class, have a tune I may try (AWD 500hp)
PS can't believe my ten minute tune did that well 93/100 is not bad (also first non-drift tune)
 
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Amuse s2000 gt1 turbo

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Downforce
20/50

Ballast
Amount 0
Position 0

Specs
599 hp
1120 kg
616 pp

Parts to buy
None

Transmission
Set final at 4.601
Set top speed at 137
Set final at 3.000
1st 3.284
2nd 2.778
3rd 2.285
4th 1.821
5th 1.468
6th 1.221
7th 1.110

LSD
initial torque 7
Acceleration sensitivity 19
Braking sensitivity 20

Suspension
Ride height -10/-10 Camber 1.0/1.4
Spring rate 11.4/13.4 Toe angle 0.00/0.20
Damper extension 3/4
Damper compression 4/5
Antiroll bars 6/6

Brakes
5/5

Tires sport soft

I love this car because it starts,grip,drift,brake,and turn when you want it to.its very obedient
 
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Amuse s2000 gt1 turbo

Errm, no. I think this car isn't eligible for this type of competition.

EDIT: It's undecided yet, if the car is eligible. I'll inform you of the results soon.
 
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Errm, no. I think this car isn't eligible for this type of competition.

Hmm…well then, sorry for turning on you so suddenly but…

MAKE IT GODDAMN CLEAR, EH? You're just wasting everyone's time doing this, scrutinizing every car individually like this after it was tuned instead of just making it plain and bloody simple in the OP to begin with! Also, if this isn't allowed, then make it so the likes of the Mines' GTR (or more specifically, your Mines' GTR that you're using as the TM) and cars with both front and rear aero available (ahem RE RX-7) can't participate for a "level" playing field.
 
Hmm…well then, sorry for turning on you so suddenly but…

MAKE IT GODDAMN CLEAR, EH? You're just wasting everyone's time doing this, scrutinizing every car individually like this after it was tuned instead of just making it plain and bloody simple in the OP to begin with! Also, if this isn't allowed, then make it so the likes of the Mines' GTR (or more specifically, your Mines' GTR that you're using as the TM) and cars with both front and rear aero available (ahem RE RX-7) can't participate for a "level" playing field.

None taken. I'm used to all the hate. Anyways...

-Check the OP. "Proper Touge cars only.", meaning, street cars only!

-The S2000 GT1 wouldn't be called a street car, don't you think? It's more of a pupose-built track car. :crazy:

-How could I even scrutinize the car if I wasn't informed about his entry?

Lastly,
-Who said I was using a Mine's R34 as a "Touge Monster"? :odd:
 
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So what defines a car as a proper Touge Car ? How about Dodge Viper ACR ? Amuse Carbon R ? S2000 R1 ? I have a '69 C3 Covette tuned for Eiger, is that a proper touge car and eligible for MAX ?
 
So what defines a car as a proper Touge Car ? How about Dodge Viper ACR ? Amuse Carbon R ? S2000 R1 ? I have a '69 C3 Covette tuned for Eiger, is that a proper touge car and eligible for MAX ?
I'm glad you asked!

As long as it's a street legal car. Corvette, Viper, and S2000 R1 is fine. The Carbon R is a purpose-built track car.

Before anyone questions me again about the R1, remember, it was featured in the actual "Touge Showdown", and reigned as one of the "Touge Monsters".
 
Had a bunch of technical issues lately...please remind me when I need to get my season 1 max class entry delivered by.:drool:
 
Well, the closing date is on December 15.
Okay no problem...should be done well before then.👍👍

Will be sending the car to you for testing and your video/photos but want it back due to it's paintjob.:lol::crazy:
 
Pretty sure the GT1 was in Hot Version vs the J's Racing S2000, albeit without a turbo..



That's the S2300. That car has about 300 Horsepower. Very huge difference with the GT1 Turbo, even in cornering performance. The GT1 Turbo with blow it away in just a few seconds. (Based on my experience.)

If it was a S2300, however, I would have allowed it. But sadly, it's not in the game.
 
So adding a turbo to an N/A automatically makes it a track car? I'm not understanding the logic here. Adding a turbo to just about anything will make it faster than its N/A equivalent, so I'm not understanding where you're coming from. In theory, none of the tuner cars are real "street" cars because they come with semi-slicks and a lot have adjustable downforce front and rear, where the "street" version would not. Just my two cents.
 
@ Mat Its actually the GT1 except with out the turbo. Amuse were in the process of building a stroked turbocharged F20C engine for the car IIRC, which is what the GT1 in GT5 has

Speaking of which, I might have to pull out one of my GT1s and tune it for the Max class... :lol:
 
Ahem the GT1 is also a 2.3L making so called "S2300". PD screwed up with naming again, lol

Hence why I said stroked. ;)

No matter, the GT1 and GT1 Turbo are road cars for the track (or is it the other way round?) in the same way the Amuse 380RS Superleggera is a SuperGT car for the road.
 
I think what Mat is getting at here is that the car in question, at least in the game is a purpose built track car and not something you would see driving down a public road on a normal bases. Reading the in game information about various tuner cars can prove very helpful and reduce some of the potential issues.

I remember having a similar conversation regarding the eligibility or the Buick Special for a tuning shootout over a year ago. The rules for the event listed street cars only, the Buick has a custom built race frame in addition to all its other goodies which definitely placed it in a seperate category from the other cars in the event.

Basically a little common sense and reading of the cars descriptions should help simplify things for everyone.

Considering the number of S2Ks in the game finding one to use shouldn't be a problem. The only reason to want to use that particular one is because it's known to have a performance advantage in "stock" form. Take it as a challenge to try bringing one of the others up to its level.
 
Whoa whoa whoa wait…I'm a bit confused. Are we referring to just banning the GT1 Turbo, or both the GT1s in the game? Because as far as I can tell, the article Ridox linked doesn't even talk about the GT1 Turbo, leave alone mentioning it being a road legal car or anything.
 
It does mentioned the engine built for the car ( GT1 Turbo ), but it was never finished I think as the owner died.

…he was then working on the motor that would power this crazy time attack car, a 550 HP F20C. Thanks to a JUN H22A crankshaft, JUN H23A connecting rods and special 87 mm pistons the engine was stroked to 2259 cc with the compression ratio lowered to 8.8:1 ready to accept a serious dose of force feeding. Tanabe-san built a one-off stainless steel exhaust manifold on which he bolted on an HKS GT3240 turbo along with an HKS GTII external wastegate. When he showed me the progress he had made in a few short months, sitting there on an engine stand in the little engine-building room at the Amuse HQ, I was just blown away. The plan was all drawn out, the F20C, once completed was to be fitted to the S2000 along with an HKS 6-speed sequential transmission and an R34 GT-R rear end to handle the savage power and torque this motor would crank out.

From the article linked.

The NA S2000 GT1 are mentioned as well, there are a few of them at the Amuse HQ - I think they are road legal, as they are probably customer's cars. GT1 Turbo would probably street legal as well, as written in their main article of the official Amuse website, the GT1 Turbo was built for the street and track.

http://www.webamuse.co.jp/news/s2000_front_bumper/index.html
 
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Read the article and the problem is naming conventions in GT5. The turbo car in game is the potential time attack car that was being built. However the GT1 name seems to refer to the body kit which could be used on virtually any S2K. Don't know if the non turbo GT1 gets the same aero advantages, suspension mods and base engine as the turbo model in game or not as I haven't checked them out myself. (not a S2K fan here) I know there are a few other cars in the game with both NA and Turbo versions and on at least a couple of them the NA version will actually outperform the turbo version when both are fully upgraded to the same level.
 
I'm really stressed out, and I don't want my temper to go mad. So, I've made a poll whether to decide if the GT1 Turbo is eligible or not. Poll closes 4 days from now.

(I'm starting to hate myself... and I'm stressed out as 🤬!)

For the meantime, I'll be ignoring this thread for the next few days, to avoid myself from smashing the computer monitor. I'm already screaming inside of me. I tend to be calm, but today just isn't one of those days...

Goodbye, for now...
 
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I have nothing against the GT1, but this is a tuners shootout. I don't feel it's fair to use pre-tuned cars like the R1 or GT1.
 
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