Has GT6 been abandoned by PD?

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Do you think GT6 has been Abandoned?

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Johnnypenso
Actually no. It's more like your Dad is constantly missing attending your hockey games and music recitals and no one ever calls him on it because they're afraid of him and his reputation. You would like to finally see him get told what a crappy father he's being in the hopes it'll make him see the light and be a better father. You love him of course because he's your father, but that doesn't mean he's a good father and once in a while everyone needs a swift kick in the butt to get going.
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I have a good dad. What are you trying to say Johnny?

And how does this relate to Senna's fans, or wanting to see them rage towards PD (or dad) ?
 
jimipitbull
Senna's fans are not sacrificial lambs.
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I'm not going to be the one screwing them over. Tell it to PD.

PD and Senna Institute have formed a relationship. Wanting to see it turn ugly shows complete disrespect for all involved.
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Point me to where I said I wanted it to turn ugly.

I want my Senna content. However, if I don't get it I'll still be happy because PD will get their comeuppance.

I have said that I'm happy with any outcome, not that I want PD to fail.
 
Samus
I'm genuinely curious where your optimism comes from.
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It has been worked on for a few years so sometime soon the new sound and AI engine will show PD's efforts over the last few years than just a few months. If they don't manage to accomplish it on PS3, it will be a small disappointment but I imagine a PS4 GT game will come out this year or next, the sooner the better for me.
bigspleen
Amazes me the sheer number of PD apologist on this forum.
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It amazes me in the opposite direction.

Anyway I find it amazing how many people think the game is abandoned and so far it is the majority of people who voted for that option. Last update for the game is just over two weeks old now, the 5th patch and game has been out for less than 4 months. Also game has been used for a number of official competitions recently such as at the first F1 race event of the season. Also features, new content and tracks have been said to be coming in updates. Content that is coming has been shown off a little bit already. If this is a sign of a game that is being abandoned then I wonder what people have expectations of a game being supported.
 
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Screwing Senna, Hmm, not possible, Senna content is there already, nothing more is promised, so suit your self and be happy with your Senna content :)

PD's has reached goal of GT6, cashing up few million stupid fans to raise funds for GT7, not much content coming to GT6 'coz no need to do, just shining number "six" to "seven" and cashing can be start again.
If someone tries to say at they break promises of "upcoming content", they just inform at "GT7" is update for "GT6" and thats it, promises filled.

PD is calculating will it more funds to supply updates to already paid version of game or just make a new version what will pay them big bucks again, probably they do double cashing, releasing GT7 with promised content from gt6, and after that have sold some millions they push that update out to GT6, and we'll see how many fools will be there again..
 
Saidur_Ali
Anyway I find it amazing how many people think the game is abandoned and so far it is the majority of people who voted for that option. Last update for the game is just over two weeks old now, the 5th patch since the release day patch and game has been out for less than 4 months. Also game has been used for a number of official competitions recently such as at the first F1 race event of the season. Also features, new content and tracks have been said to be coming in updates. Content that is coming has been shown off a little bit already. If this is a sign of a game that is being abandoned then I wonder what people have expectations of a game being supported.
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One of these days I'm going to do a side by side comparison of the support of GT5 and GT6 over the first few months.

GT5 was arguably more complete than GT6 at release, and yet it was much more strongly supported. PD heard the voices of the fans who were dissatisfied and responded relatively quickly.

They have not done so this time, and it's disturbing.

OdeFinn
Screwing Senna, Hmm, not possible, Senna content is there already, nothing more is promised, so suit your self and be happy with your Senna content :)
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Er, what?

http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/news/00_5354623.html

In the PlayStation exclusive game title "Gran Turismo®6" to be released on December 6, 2013, content involving Brazil's legendary racing driver Ayrton Senna will be provided through online updates, enabling players to trace the roots of Ayrton Senna's racing career.
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Please point me to where they've added content involving Ayrton Senna where I can trace the roots of his racing career.
 
Imari
I'm not going to be the one screwing them over. Tell it to PD.

Point me to where I said I wanted it to turn ugly.

I want my Senna content. However, if I don't get it I'll still be happy because PD will get their comeuppance.

I have said that I'm happy with any outcome, not that I want PD to fail.
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Keep trying to explain, place some more bets either way. Then when it's all done and dusted, you can tell everyone you predicted it all along.

Imari
And I agree @TokoTurismo. Messing with the Senna name is a big deal. It's not really any different to any of the other stuff they're doing, but having that name attached makes people get all emotional. If they fluff it, I expect internet anorak rage of epic proportions.

I'm happy either way. Either we get Senna content, or PD gets a swift, sharp kick in the jigglies. I'm actually looking forward to it for a change. :D
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Imari
One of these days I'm going to do a side by side comparison of the support of GT5 and GT6 over the first few months.

GT5 was arguably more complete than GT6 at release, and yet it was much more strongly supported. PD heard the voices of the fans who were dissatisfied and responded relatively quickly.

They have not done so this time, and it's disturbing.
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They don't have any good reason to support dying era, because they have new cow coming out what they can use for milking money. They use their resources on GT7(+p) and let people just whine alone with GT6.
Probably we'll see update for GT6 only on their test purposes, if they want to run some live test for new upcoming features of GT7 they can do live testing on installbase of GT6.



Imari
Er, what?

http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/news/00_5354623.html



Please point me to where they've added content involving Ayrton Senna where I can trace the roots of his racing career.
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They do it just in advance, Senna race Suit, You can pretend to be Senna when wearing it and driving around track in Kart, THere is no promises of any content, only "enabling players to trace the roots of Ayrton Senna's racing career." and that can be done with current Senna Suit :)
So no need to reach for the moon..
 
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“For us, it’s very special to have Ayrton as the main highlight of Gran Turismo®6. ...............................,"
said Viviane Senna, the sister of the late triple champion and president of the Instituto Ayrton Senna.


Yeah looks like they got told a big fat lie that they believed too...

They should have asked me, I would have told them not to believe a word that comes out of Kaz's mouth, like ever. I stopped believing anything he ever says years ago.
 
Imari
One of these days I'm going to do a side by side comparison of the support of GT5 and GT6 over the first few months.

GT5 was arguably more complete than GT6 at release, and yet it was much more strongly supported. PD heard the voices of the fans who were dissatisfied and responded relatively quickly.

They have not done so this time, and it's disturbing.
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I don't see how it was more strongly supported. It has been only been about two more weeks extra to get same number of patches in terms of quantity for GT6 compared to GT5 but GT6 also has had smaller updates too.

GT6 is looking like it will get DLC support quicker than GT5 did too. I was wondering why you find it disturbing if you think GT5 was supported and with a relatively quick response but if GT6 is even quicker and more supported in its first year potentially then you find that disturbing.
 
eSZee
There really aren't that many.

It's PD's job to design a game for the hardware they're given.
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Sure! Absolutley, I agree. But then you have fans that think another installment on the same platform would lead to better technical presentation without sacrificing something like FPS or having downgrades in other parts of the game. And that is considering GT5 already had plenty of problems.

Agent_47
So no B-Spec, no DLC, a lack of customization options compared to its competitors like Forza, is the fault of PS3 hardware? We had all this in GT5 and it was never a problem.
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Do you actually read the thread, at all? Yes? Then how about you read what I said earlier when I said I found the game (GT6) to be fine as is. I just wanted the technical problems GT5 to be solved and GT6 going to PS3 wasen't going to make that happen.
 
OdeFinn
They don't have any good reason to support dying era, because they have new cow coming out what they can use for milking money. They use their resources on GT7(+p) and let people just whine alone with GT6.
Probably we'll see update for GT6 only on their test purposes, if they want to run some live test for new upcoming features of GT7 they can do live testing on installbase of GT6.




They do it just in advance, Senna race Suit, You can pretend to be Senna when wearing it and driving around track in Kart, THere is no promises of any content, only "enabling players to trace the roots of Ayrton Senna's racing career." and that can be done with current Senna Suit :)
So no need to reach for the moon..
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To trace the career of someone you need the same cars, tracks and racing series. That is what tracing means, following exactly. You can't do that dressed up as Senna in GT6, you can only take on a new career.
 
Tenacious D
I was in the thick of that debate. Not sure where you were, d'oh. ;)
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So which is it, then? That was @Hyland 's point; you can't have it both ways (something you accuse others of having, probably [unintentionally] ironically). Either the choice to go on PS3 was made because of the install base versus massively smaller one PS4 would provide, or PS4 is the big main influence that's cut into GT6's sales; you know, assuming every PS4 buyer immediately dropped their PS3's and won't buy a single PS3 game anymore.

Oh wait, it wasn't a choice PD made, Sony made them develop a PS4 game only to then tell them to turn it into a PS3 game. That was your argument, right?

You act like PD is SO intertwined with SONY that their offices are right next door to the boardroom, and a money chute feeds into it dropping hundreds of thousands of yen a day. But then when it suits you, Polyphony resides in a clandestine bunker, and SONY suits can't even buy a clue to their secret handshake to see if they're even working on a game from year to year.
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Er, that's actually pretty much what you've suggested. On numerous occasions.

By the way, this planet is so sad that GTA could release exclusively on Android phones for a year, and ten million would pick it up.
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By the way, what would be sad about that? Pro tip: games that deliver on their pre-release promises and hype do tend to sell well.

One more thing. I'm not arguing GT6 sales numbers, I'm mulling over factors of gamer reception.
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Then stop pretending GT5's sales have any relevance.

Saidur_Ali
GT6 is looking like it will get DLC support quicker than GT5 did too.
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Yep, that monthly car and track DLC has really been great...

I was wondering why you find it disturbing if you think GT5 was supported and with a relatively quick response but if GT6 is even quicker and more supported in its first year potentially then you find that disturbing.
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GT5 also wasn't released with a ton of features missing only to be added later; most of the stuff added wasn't printed on the box, or largely turned into the focus of pre-release hype-building from Kaz and Co. The "track creator", despite that misnomer, at least was in the game from the off, as was B-Spec. They didn't originally promise monthly DLC either.
 
Saidur_Ali
I don't see how it was more strongly supported. It has been only been about two more weeks extra to get same number of patches in terms of quantity for GT6 compared to GT5 but GT6 also has had smaller updates too.
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GT5 reached version 1.05 under a month since its general release (believe it was December 21st...?). For GT6 to reach that same stage took three months. Looking at the change logs, GT5 added more in five updates than GT6 did in the same amount. Not to mention we are getting them at a snails pace, and when we do we are all underwhealmed.

But two weeks you say? Where I live, it was more a matter of months than weeks.
 
While I have been fuming about this game for a while, I realized there was something said a while back about GT6 pushing the PS3 to its limits. I am not trying to make excuses for PD, but if this is, in fact, the issue, it is understandable how it can take so long to put out any update. Of course, PD definitely needs to be handling things in a better manner and at least keep the players of this game somewhat informed as to what is happening. Keeping everyone "hanging in the balance" is doing nothing but causing speculations and rumors, along with flared tempers.
The future is uncertain, so we can either believe they have given up and give up ourselves or keep waiting with a hope that all is not lost. The choice is up to each one of us and there is no one person that can tell you your decision is wrong.
To those who feel they must attack people on here, remember that this is a forum where everyone is allowed to express their opinion, whether you agree or not. If you feel you need to criticize, you may want to take a long look at yourself first. Nobody is going to think exactly the way you do and it's OK. It's called "being human".
 
darren200cook
GT5 reached version 1.05 under a month since its general release (believe it was December 21st...?). For GT6 to reach that same stage took three months. Looking at the change logs, GT5 added more in five updates than GT6 did in the same amount. Not to mention we are getting them at a snails pace, and when we do we are all underwhealmed.

But two weeks you say? Where I live, it was more a matter of months than weeks.
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http://gran-turismo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_updates_to_Gran_Turismo_5

1.05 = December 20th.
 
Samus
To trace the career of someone you need the same cars, tracks and racing series. That is what tracing means, following exactly. You can't do that dressed up as Senna in GT6, you can only take on a new career.
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Sweet dream to have some "senna career".
Language barrier, we got all what there are planned to come. ;)
 
machschnel
I've been waiting since GT5 Prologue. When GT5 was released I was somewhat understanding of Polyphony's predicament - PS3 is hard to code for, they had grand visions, under pressure from Sony etc. Not surprising that a fair bit of patience was required. But the whole premise of releasing GT6 on outdated, under performing hardware was to alleviate the issues experienced with GT5, namely programming for new hardware and time constraints.

So why are we waiting again?

Polyphony got a well deserved second chance with GT6. GT5 gave them a solid foundation, knowledge of what the PS3 was capable of, consumer feedback etc. Waiting was the last thing I thought I'd be doing.

The worrying thing is the possibility that this cycle of testing consumer patience may continue into the next generation. It would appear that time, at least in Polyphony's reality, is a flat circle.
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I do agree, but as April Approaches it's only going to be like 4 months since release you could just be like me trade it in and wash your hands of it all, and wait for PD to get off their behinds and make a respectable game. Instead of one that you constantly have to play up to your friends, or people asking the question why is GT better than *insert game* etc etc.
 
@ukfan758, Didn't find that PD's hint from there.

@Samus, playing that PD language barrier stuff, they haven't promised any content precisely. All can be turned to that language barrier, like that "news" what Famine has translated, using his artistic freedom. :)

PS. I'm not anymore worried this GT6, I upgraded it to GTA V and now I don't have any issues to wait year or so to get pCARS :)
 
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They have, though. They've promised you'll be able to trace the career of Senna in additional content delivered for the game. It's even printed on PS3 boxes and all copies of GT6 in Brazil. They HAVE to deliver more content than his suit or face a suit of their own.
 
They express their dreams too much. Just need to sit down, and see what can actually be done. They're either way over their heads, or they'll surprise us all. And I doubt we will be all that surprised when the time comes.
 
@Samus, Yeah, on my game box there reads things what are not accurate, there is press statements what are just jargon.. So not gonna bet on that Senna contect, If we are really lucky that Interlagos track comes on some day as a DLC (probably DLC to GT7), sorry but if you have eaten too much 🤬, it's hard to eat more same.

Interlagos
MB 190

^that's my prophecy for senna content.(Released in next four years)
 
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OdeFinn
PS. I'm not anymore worried this GT6, I upgraded it to GTA V and now I don't have any issues to wait year or so to get pCARS :)
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Oh super. So you're standing in the door frame a step away from having completely exited.. good good. I don't know what's more hilarious, staying on a forum making consistent hindsight-type remarks about what a terrible bunch of people are behind the creation of Gran Turismo.. or dropping the most beautiful created racing game for a game that has nothing to do with racing at all.. with the side-fact that it's the most dehumanizing piece-of-crap-themed-gameplay of all time??
 
occasionalracer
Oh super. So you're standing in the door frame a step away from having completely exited.. good good. I don't know what's more hilarious, staying on a forum making consistent hindsight-type remarks about what a terrible bunch of people are behind the creation of Gran Turismo.. or dropping the most beautiful created racing game for a game that has nothing to do with racing at all.. with the side-fact that it's the most dehumanizing piece-of-crap-themed-gameplay of all time??
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Lol :)
This hits the fan, I'm still letting small piece of my GT series desire to live and wait for a HUGE GOOD update for this GT6, but hope is so lost, can't just understand how this is going down and down.

When GTA V was released my gaming was on GT5, and I was liking it and knowing at it is just waste of money to go and buy GTA V 'coz I won't play it when GT it taking all the gaming time. Then we got GT6 and still wasn't buying GTA V mainly on same reason, no time 'coz GT6 will get all playing time. Then GT6 has showed his teeth (marketing denture), and understand at there will be plenty of time to play other games, 'coz there is no good enjoyable time along with GT6 what there was with GT5.
 
OdeFinn
Lol :)
This hits the fan, I'm still letting small piece of my GT series desire to live and wait for a HUGE GOOD update for this GT6, but hope is so lost, can't just understand how this is going down and down.

When GTA V was released my gaming was on GT5, and I was liking it and knowing at it is just waste of money to go and buy GTA V 'coz I won't play it when GT it taking all the gaming time. Then we got GT6 and still wasn't buying GTA V mainly on same reason, no time 'coz GT6 will get all playing time. Then GT6 has showed his teeth (marketing denture), and understand at there will be plenty of time to play other games, 'coz there is no good enjoyable time along with GT6 what there was with GT5.
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Well I hope they do more to make the game more enjoyable. But replacing a racing game with a non-racing game doesn't prove anything at all.. perhaps if you want to compare it to 'time wasted on video games' in general.. sure that works, but you're not proving anything to PD. Playing Project Cars exclusively for your racing fix on the other hand could be another story, I'll be playing it and hope it has great gameplay.. but something tells me by the time both are out, GT will be a much more advanced game.
 
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