Has GT6 been abandoned by PD?

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Do you think GT6 has been Abandoned?


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Content-wise it's about the same development rate as GT5. So no support for the "abandoned"-hypothesis there either. It seems more like it's the usual pace by which PD is working.

But is the usual pace quick enough when GT6 is soon to be replaced with GT7? I don't think it is.
 
GT7, this year, it's very very very unlikely unless Sony wants to kill Drive Club.

Good point ... DC will either release in the next few weeks or not at all indeed. (SONY layoffs)

And GT7 seems highly unlikely in 2014, since they have yet to produce enough hardware(PS4) to feed the market.
 
I'm saying how abandoned GT6 is with the file sizes on there. Your file sizes show nothing.

So you're saying that they support the game without supporting the game? That doesn't make sense.
You'll need to define what you mean with "abandoned".

No, content-wise it's very, very different to GT5. We had no content at all for GT5 until Spec 2.0 when the first DLC arrived. With GT6 we had some on Day 1. We had more up through the end of January when the second part of the Red Bull challenges was added. We've had no content since then, despite a number of indications from PD/Sony that there would be some.

Feature-wise is also very different to GT5, but reversed.

GT5 patch contents until 1.06:
  • Mechanical damage option for online lobbies
  • Seasonal events
  • OCD
  • User BGM
  • Remote racing
  • Performance points
  • Multi-monitor feature
+ minor tweaks and fixes

GT6 patch contents until 1.05:
  • Seasonal events
  • VGT
  • Online features
  • Red Bull X challenge part 1
  • Login bonus
  • Red Bull X challenge part 2
  • New lobby features
  • Multi-monitor feature
+ minor tweaks and fixes

Seems to amount to just about the same. I've counted GT5 until 1.06 because 1.04 was never an individual release, but instead it was merged with 1.05.
 
But is the usual pace quick enough when GT6 is soon to be replaced with GT7? I don't think it is.

Will they have enough time to finish everything before GT7 is out? God knows.
And God knows when GT7 will be released. It's hard to calculate with unknown factors.
 
So you're saying that they support the game without supporting the game? That doesn't make sense.
You'll need to define what you mean with "abandoned".



GT5 patch contents until 1.06:
  • Mechanical damage option for online lobbies
  • Seasonal events
  • OCD
  • User BGM
  • Remote racing
  • Performance points
  • Multi-monitor feature
+ minor tweaks and fixes

GT6 patch contents until 1.05:
  • Seasonal events
  • VGT
  • Online features
  • Red Bull X challenge part 1
  • Login bonus
  • Red Bull X challenge part 2
  • New lobby features
  • Multi-monitor feature
+ minor tweaks and fixes

Seems to amount to just about the same. I've counted GT5 until 1.06 because 1.04 was never an individual release, but instead it was merged with 1.05.

Why not count over the same time frame instead of the same number of patches?

And why not reference the full summary of patch notes that I did for both games a couple of pages ago, instead of cherry picking? GT5 got a lot more than that, as did GT6.

Let's take a look at what was received in those early patches and compare then, shall we?

GT5

1.02 - 27 November

Online – Weight and Power Limits added.

1.03 - 6 December

Mechanical damage added to all modes

1.04 and 1.05 - 20 December

Seasonal Events
Online Collector's Dealership
Online – Rewards and Experience added.
Online stat tracking added.
GT Mode rewards tweaked.
Race Information Display options added.
Save Data Backup added.
User BGM (Menu) added.
Website Integration added – community features now available through granturismo.com

1.06 - 11 February

Remote Racing added.
Can use Course Maker tracks online.
Performance points added for online.
Rewards and Experience for online tweaked.
Tyre/fuel depletion and auto start added to online options.
Special Event penalties tweaked.
Rewards and Experience for GT Life tweaked (again).
Car Loans added.
Additional car settings made available (power limiter/ballast).
Multi-monitor support added.
Various settings changes.
AI upgrades.

1.07 - 24 February

Friend rankings in drift and time trials.
Million credit limit on trades.

1.08 - 9 March

SSR7 hack patch.

Continued with minor hack patches until 1.10 on 7 June.


GT6

1.01 - 6 December

Vision GT has been added to the home screen.
Mercedes-Benz AMG Vision Gran Turismo is available as a gift car.
Car tuning menus has been updater to expand/collapse function.
Freshman Cup added to National B mode.
Status screen has an updated layout.
Tyre type fitted to car is now displayed in lower left corner of race display when driving.

1.02 - 18 December

Red Bull X Challenge Part 1 added.
BMW M4 added.
Login Bonus added.
Credits in Career mode tweaked.
Entry requirements for seasonals tweaked.

1.03 - 14 January

Toyota FT-1 Added.
BMW M4 interior added.

1.04 - 28 January

Red Bull X Challenge Part 2 added.
Mercedes-Benz Vision GT Racing added.
Corvette Stingray GT Concept added.
Birthday bonus added.
Remove Ghost Replay button added.
Prize info added to seasonal events.

1.05 - 10 March

New race types added to Open Lobby (TT, Drift, Free Run).
Multiple filters can be used to search.
Karts usable on tracks with weather.
Can see regulations before entering a room.
Multi-monitor support added.
Car Search added.
Racing Gear can be purchased in individual colours.
Tuning for karts expanded.


GT6 has received some content in the new cars and extra Red Bull events, but little in the way of updated features.
GT5 received no new content, but added a lot of useful features.

I wouldn't describe either game as lacking in content. What they both needed at release was features. One got them, the other so far hasn't.

By March, GT5 had changed significantly as a game from 1.01. A lot of major issues had been solved, like the grind of the single player campaign, the difficulty of finding some needed cars, and the pathetic state of the online options at release.

By March, GT6 has added some new cars, which are much appreciated, some Red Bull events which are likewise appreciated, some features that were in GT5 and bafflingly removed, and some usability tweaks. It's fundamentally very similar to GT6 1.01 with a few more cars and races. Woo.

As long as they're updating seasonals, it's going to be enough for you and others to say "look, it's not abandoned". That's fine, you're welcome to think what you like.

Me, I don't count token support as support. GT6 has real issues that need to be addressed, like the pit bug. It has features missing that were in GT5, for no apparently good reason. It has a massive list of features and content that need to be included in the next 8 months that they haven't even scraped the surface of.

They can keep tinkering here and there, adding seasonals and car searching and race suit ordering and such. I consider this to be misdirection at best. Either they need more time to get the real features out and they're trying to keep the natives enthralled with trinkets, or they've bailed to GT7P and are trying to keep the natives enthralled with trinkets. We'll know if and when they actually release a non-trivial update.

Or if they hit the end of May without Senna content. Whichever comes first.

Although I will be horrified if the Senna content amounts to some specialised seasonals and some liveried cars we already have, and will not consider that to be support either.

So that's what I think of support. I don't think it's enough that the receptionist keeps coming into the waiting room to give me another cup of coffee and a biscuit. Yes, they're attending to me, but they're not attending to the issue. I want my damn car fixed, or at least I want progress.
 
maybe introduction date console next to introduction first GT on that console next to each other in a graph?
 
The problem is that people believe that GT7 will be release this year. So they are stressed.

GT7, this year, it's very very very unlikely unless Sony wants to kill Drive Club.

But they had to get it out before pCARS comes, so there is tricky time window for GT7 to come out.
 
PD has probably not abandonned it but i think they wonder how to make money out of it.
One version is to get manufactorers to pay, i start to think even seasonals can be sponsored.
Other way is a DLC which is probable now and may be why it takes a little more time before updates comes.
Then you have GT5 servercost, GT6 servers and coming GT7.
So i still believe bigger stuff is coming as soon as GT5 is closed.
And if they announce GT7p then GT6 needs new boost to live.
 
PCARS is the last worry for Sony....
If that is true, it would be foolish. When you have direct competition for at least a segment of your customer base (I agree the game probably won't appeal to all GT customers), competition that will likely hit the market before you are ready with your new game, you better sit up and take notice. The fact that it's on every major console and PC gives it a broad base of support and even if they only sell 1 million on each console it'll give them the oomph they need (aka financial support) to make a much more ambitious 2nd effort.


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We must let Podi do their job. I am persuaded that they will keep their promises, at least the vast majority :)
And which ones will you be happy that they don't keep?
 
If that is true, it would be foolish. When you have direct competition for at least a segment of your customer base (I agree the game probably won't appeal to all GT customers), competition that will likely hit the market before you are ready with your new game, you better sit up and take notice.
The fanbase that doesn't leave GT for pCARS will most likely be enticed by Drive Club.

My feelings are that Sony is planning for GT7p, Drive Club, and pCARS in the same quarter.
 
The fanbase that doesn't leave GT for pCARS will most likely be enticed by Drive Club.

My feelings are that Sony is planning for GT7p, Drive Club, and pCARS in the same quarter.

Well, if three racers come out I might have a reason to buy a PS4...maybe...in the near future...sometime soon :sly:
 
As Forza Motorsport ? Oh w.... :)
Forza is a different story. Let's just say GT and Forza will lose all of their hardcore fans to pCARS, then, they'll have no choice but to pull a Codemasters by becoming arcade racers. :sly: Hahaha, HAHAHAHA!! :lol:
 
I, for one, cannot wait for this next Gran Turismo game. From Kaz himself, see video below. It Sounds like it's going to be incredible!

Start at 15:20! Finally! :lol:


 
Users will now be able to organize their own communities and online events and racing championships.

What a big fat lie.
 
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Users will now be able to organize their own communities and online events and racing championships.

What a big fat lie.

Don't forget:

A QUANTUM LEAP in DLC.

quantum leap
noun
: a sudden large change, development, or improvement


Full Definition of QUANTUM LEAP
: an abrupt change, sudden increase, or dramatic advance

I wonder if it means something different in Japanese?
 
I, for one, cannot wait for this next Gran Turismo game. From Kaz himself, see video below. It Sounds like it's going to be incredible!

Start at 15:20! Finally! :lol:




It's really as if they are talking about an entirely different game.


Don't forget:

quantum leap
noun
: a sudden large change, development, or improvement

Full Definition of QUANTUM LEAP
: an abrupt change, sudden increase, or dramatic advance

I wonder if it means something different in Japanese?

Quantum leap right into a freaking abyss.
 
I, for one, cannot wait for this next Gran Turismo game. From Kaz himself, see video below. It Sounds like it's going to be incredible!

Start at 15:20! Finally! :lol:



Are you serious or just trolling using that old heart breaking sum of lies..

..releasing during next 6th month.. jadajada jargon..

That just hits, things what most of us believed once, so much jargon.
 
"Quantum Leap"
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So you're saying that they support the game without supporting the game? That doesn't make sense.
You'll need to define what you mean with "abandoned".



GT5 patch contents until 1.06:
  • Mechanical damage option for online lobbies
  • Seasonal events
  • OCD
  • User BGM
  • Remote racing
  • Performance points
  • Multi-monitor feature
+ minor tweaks and fixes

GT6 patch contents until 1.05:
  • Seasonal events
  • VGT
  • Online features
  • Red Bull X challenge part 1
  • Login bonus
  • Red Bull X challenge part 2
  • New lobby features
  • Multi-monitor feature
+ minor tweaks and fixes

Seems to amount to just about the same. I've counted GT5 until 1.06 because 1.04 was never an individual release, but instead it was merged with 1.05.
I wouldn't count it as about the same at all as GT5 was a complete game and GT6 has half of it missing and still hasn't got those features. I'd call that a HUGE difference. I'd consider not finishing the game and no sign or word on if it will happen beyond the original promises to be at this point, abandoned. I do keep hoping they will surprise us soon but if nothing happens by summer, I think we can safely give up that hope.
 
Good job!

The problem is that people believe that GT7 will be release this year. So they are stressed.

GT7, this year, it's very very very unlikely unless Sony wants to kill Drive Club.

WTF?? Kill drive club? they are totally different games. Did forza kill Grid, Project gotham racing, need for speed? Did gt? drive club would not be killed because of GT, totally different racers, and ps4 gamers are hungry for a racing game. there is a place for more then 1 racing game on PS4 LMAO.
 
By reading many of these posts, I came to realize some major issues.
First, impatience has run amok within the GT community. Yes, we all want this completed, but all good things come to those who wait.
Second, assumption is clouding judgment of those who decide to make up their own version of what is happening to GT6 in their own minds.
Third, trying to make sense of what we don't understand about this game will only add to the madness. We are not PD employees and therefore, cannot say what is or is not forthcoming.
Finally, imagine this scenario:
Your favorite band makes a really crappy album and because they are your favorite band, you remain loyal in hopes they release a better one next time. So, can you judge the future of Gran Turismo by GT6 alone?
Thought I would share this little revelation I had to maybe put these things out to all of you. Now, ask yourselves if getting worked up over GT6 is really necessary.
Play on!
 
NO gaBy reading many of these posts, I came to realize some major issues.
First, impatience has run amok within the GT community. Yes, we all want this completed, but all good things come to those who wait.

Ah, this again, people deciding for us when we're being impatient. Maybe you can tell us how long it's acceptable to wait and be patient? 6 months? A year?

Second, assumption is clouding judgment of those who decide to make up their own version of what is happening to GT6 in their own minds.
Third, trying to make sense of what we don't understand about this game will only add to the madness. We are not PD employees and therefore, cannot say what is or is not forthcoming.

All of which would be solved if PD fixed one of the other issues people have with them, communication.

Finally, imagine this scenario:
Your fvorite band makes a really crappy album and because they are your favorite band, you remain loyal in hopes they release a better one next time. So, can you judge the future of Gran Turismo by GT6 alone?
Thought I would share this little revelation I had to maybe put these things out to all of you. Now, ask yourselves if getting worked up over GT6 is really necessary.
Play on!

Yes, I've had that experience, but two bad albums in a row and I'd start to lose interest. GT5 and GT6 were those bad albums.
 
No, they weren't. GT5 and 6 were only as "bad" as any other entry in the series.

GT6 is totally a complete game, we just need a few bugfixes. But hey, they wanna add nonsense like login bonuses and DLC anyway.

I'm pretty sure GT6 started on a earlier version of GT5, which would explain a lot.
 
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