Has GT6 been abandoned by PD?

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I really feel people need to relax, and let Gran Turismo run it's course, and if some of complainers never played the first GT, go play it if you can and I bet you going to be running back to GT6 with open arms, then you might understand the leap in physics and graphics leap over the past 15 years and just might, and I say again , just might have more respect for Kaz and where GT has come and where it's going.

Really, so what? Games are judged on the hardware they run on and features and gameplay of other contemporary games. Physics and Graphics are really the only serious difference between modern GT games and old ones. Most gameplay aspects are really the same old features.


And like Jordan said in the Kaz movie, GT is a massive engineering project, up there with the space program, so it's not easy to create a car sim this complex, so all I can say is have some patience and more respect for the father of Gran Turismo.

That might be the funniest thing I've read on this forum since someone posted a video comparing Kaz to Magellan.
 
Really, so what? Games are judged on the hardware they run on and features and gameplay of other contemporary games. Physics and Graphics are really the only serious difference between modern GT games and old ones. Most gameplay aspects are really the same old features.




That might be the funniest thing I've read on this forum since someone posted a video comparing Kaz to Magellan.
Ok well since it's so funny, let me see you go and create car sim better than this. I'll wait. I did'nt think so, not so easy is it.
 
Ok well since it's so funny, let me see you go and create car sim better than this. I'll wait. I did'nt think so, not so easy is it.

I never get tired of reading the tried and true "If you think you can do better, create your own!" retort, as if that actually has any merit in this or any other discussion.

However, since you've gone out of your way to be oh-so-clever, I'll go out of my own and actually stimulate this discussion: with technical schools going out of their way to teach programming and video game design, and with the advent of such sites as Kickstarter... it's really not that difficult anymore. All that's required is the knowledge, a good enough idea that people can actually invest in, and word of mouth.
 
Ok well since it's so funny, let me see you go and create car sim better than this. I'll wait. I did'nt think so, not so easy is it.

What a pathetic way of arguing 👎.

It IS funny. Really funny. So funny, in fact, that loads of people have created better car sims than GT. You don't have to wait for pCARS, or rFactor 2, or Asseto Corsa, or for R3E. There's already rFactor, iRacing, Live for Speed, Race07, NetKarPro, Game Stock Car...so on and so forth.

For specific reasons, I prefer playing GT, mostly because I'm not hardcore enough for the other sims and I end up spinning in all of them while I have a fair compromise of challenge and fun in GT, that's why I've loved it since day one and that's why it annoys me so much what PD is doing to it. But still, can't deny THERE ARE BETTER SIMS OUT THERE. Kaz is NOT building a space station, and he isn't Magellan (For sucks fake, did anyone actually made that comparison??? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:)
 
OP here, it's been about 25-26 hours since I posted this thread and the three poll choices are within 3% of each other, that's amazing in my opinion.
I for one hope so. Let PD focus on gt7 and lets all forget the mess that were GT5 and GT6.
I personally would want to get my $60 worth out of GT6 first then get GT7. I can see what you're trying to say though, just start fresh on a brand new console so that we don't deal with this.
 
Ok well since it's so funny, let me see you go and create car sim better than this. I'll wait. I did'nt think so, not so easy is it.

What a pathetic response, made even worse by how often it's used.

They're the professionals here, not us. It's their job to develop and release a quality product, not ours. And according to quite a few people, that isn't happening to the necessary standards.
 
I dunno guys, last week I had a guy come and service my boiler. He was fully trained, Corgi registered with 15 years experience. Long story short he made a mistake and blew my house up but i'm not mad, it's not like I can do any better. That's why i'll be on his defence in the trial.
 
Quick question. . .
if PD did abandon features, such a a course creater etc. What are you going to do about it?
Well, twitter works. and Shuhei Yoshida and Kaz are friends. . so, that would be the route to go. and Adam Boyes as well. Their active on there.
Now, if we dont get what they promised by June, I suggest we start a campaign and force their hand. why?
because its better than sulking and sitting on our hands here.
 
Content - cars and tracks
Features - community features, course creator

GT6 has had DLC - Merc VGTs, BMW coupe, Hudson Hornet, Red Bulls
And added feature - Red Bull X Challenge

Sorry, I thought you were comparing DLC schedule between GT6 and Forza.

How long have Polyphony had to work with the PS3?

How long have Turn 10 had to work with the XBOX One?


Imagine if PD released GT6 with 14 tracks and 218 cars. Then they would have had plenty of DLC up their sleeve!

Polyphony's first go on PS4 will have even less content than Forza 5 - GT7 Prologue!
 
I never get tired of reading the tried and true "If you think you can do better, create your own!" retort, as if that actually has any merit in this or any other discussion.

However, since you've gone out of your way to be oh-so-clever, I'll go out of my own and actually stimulate this discussion: with technical schools going out of their way to teach programming and video game design, and with the advent of such sites as Kickstarter... it's really not that difficult anymore. All that's required is the knowledge, a good enough idea that people can actually invest in, and word of mouth.
You're tired of reading it because it's the truth, if it's not that difficult then, why are there not more people doing it? Because it's not easy, period. And yes there are PC sims and other racers but none of them is on GTs level. So create your own is a good "retort" because if I don't like what someone is doing I'm going to get from around that person, and if I do like what someone is doing then yea we can be friends and chill. Kaz does not have a gun to your head forcing you to buy and play the game, if you don't like it don't play it.

Give me 60 million dollars and five years like PD had, I reckon I could do it. Plenty of talent out there.
I don't think even that will be enough tbh, it will take alot more than that to create something equal to a GT6.

What a pathetic way of arguing 👎.

It IS funny. Really funny. So funny, in fact, that loads of people have created better car sims than GT. You don't have to wait for pCARS, or rFactor 2, or Asseto Corsa, or for R3E. There's already rFactor, iRacing, Live for Speed, Race07, NetKarPro, Game Stock Car...so on and so forth.

For specific reasons, I prefer playing GT, mostly because I'm not hardcore enough for the other sims and I end up spinning in all of them while I have a fair compromise of challenge and fun in GT, that's why I've loved it since day one and that's why it annoys me so much what PD is doing to it. But still, can't deny THERE ARE BETTER SIMS OUT THERE. Kaz is NOT building a space station, and he isn't Magellan (For sucks fake, did anyone actually made that comparison??? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:)
If all those other games are better than GT then why do you prefer GT? Hmmm..... kinda suspect right there. They might be better at simulation of a "race", (which it does say the real "driving" simulator on GT cover) but how does it feel driving, does it really feel like your in a corvette driving at the ring like GT does? NOPE!
 
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If all those other games are better than GT then why do you prefer GT? Hmmm..... kinda suspect right there.


He already explained to you why he prefers GT, it's not the physics, nor the content, it's his enjoyment because the driving challenges suit him more, PC sims are very hardcore. I played the Motorstorm series until GT5 came out and made a lot of friends there. Those games were extremely challenging and competitive, but hardly any of my friends moved to GT because it's a completely different type of challenge. But nowhere does that indicate that Motorstorm is more realistic than GT, or that they won't move to GT because it's too realistic.



but how does it feel driving, does it really feel like your in a corvette driving at the ring like GT does? NOPE!


Have you even played any of the other sims mentioned? They spank GT's backside until it bleeds, they trounce it in every single, possible way conceivable.
 
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If all those other games are better than GT then why do you prefer GT? Hmmm..... kinda suspect right there. They might be better at simulation of a "race", (which it does say the real "driving" simulator on GT cover) but how does it feel driving, does it really feel like your in a corvette driving at the ring like GT does? NOPE!

Apparently you didn't read his post very thoroughly....

"I'm not hardcore enough for the other sims and I end up spinning in all of them while I have a fair compromise of challenge and fun in GT, that's why I've loved it since day one and that's why it annoys me so much what PD is doing to it"


if it's not that difficult then, why are there not more people doing it?

Probably because not everyone has a 50+ million dollar budget to work with.
And yes there are PC sims and other racers but none of them is on GTs level.

That's your opinion, just like I could say you're technically right. Some of them aren't on GT's level. They're above it.
 
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Probably because not everyone has a 50+ million dollar budget to work with.

That's exactly what I was about to type. There's several pared down versions of GT-like games out there, and more being made. None of them have the amounts of money to burn that GT does.

The only people that apparently do are console manufacturers, presumably because full strength GT-likes sell consoles. Without that, presumably your $50 million game has to sell big numbers to get a return, and that's just not guaranteed on a new IP. I don't blame game companies for not wanting to gamble with $50 million dollars.
 
You're tired of reading it because it's the truth, if it's not that difficult then, why are there not more people doing it? Because it's not easy, period. And yes there are PC sims and other racers but none of them is on GTs level. So create your own is a good "retort" because if I don't like what someone is doing I'm going to get from around that person, and if I do like what someone is doing then yea we can be friends and chill. Kaz does not have a gun to your head forcing you to buy and play the game, if you don't like it don't play it.

Actually, I've grown tired of it as it makes you or anyone else using it as a defense look profoundly foolish; it's what's called a straw man argument. The only truth is that you believe it to be the be-all and end-all when you have nothing else to present as an argument. Dancing around the fact that game creation is far easier for an independent developer now than it was, say, ten years ago illustrates that rather well. I also love how you've now resorted to regurgitating every clichéd response verbatim.

Sound about right?

As for your PC sim remark, you're absolutely on point: in order for any game to be of the same caliber as Gran Turismo in its current state would require falling behind task by roughly 3 years or more when compared to just about every other simulation racer on the market.

Can I help you with anything else?
 
Once again, you guys do remember that our last update was...11 days ago right? I could see maybe thinking the game had been abandoned in-between 1.04 and 1.05 but really guys? Nearly a 3rd of the people on this thread think 1.05 will be the LAST update?

Edit: Can we bring this thread back when the new update comes out?
For you that was a update ? That was a update on the paper only, in fact that was the worst update we get useless as £&""&@ ! After 2 months in the dark, lie after lie you feel not ripped of and you are happy with the last update ? Pd can really thanks the world to have a bunch of customer like you really !!! Pd and Kaz don't care at all to gran turismo and I'm going to tell you why with only one example , Vettel bro ... Wtf ???? If they was really pationnated by the game there will be Keiichi Tsuchiya ( THE Japanese CAR ICON ) not this red bull joke !!! And I can continu with the non prenium AE86 ! That's business don't believe Kaz when he is saying Gt is my Baby because in fact he is thinking "you suckers, you believed me again after Years of lies ahahaha "
 
I Think, PD should create a whole new game with totally different type of game (remember Omega Boost - doesnt need to be space war game, just different from racing - platform, fighting whatever good).
Because they can be exhausted making a racing games for 15 years in a row.
 
I hope, we'll at least see the new track which was already announced and some Senna content (karts and tracks) before things move over to GT Academy on PS4 and GT7(P) with full throttle.
 
Let's face it: the PS3 is dead, and it's no use to invest any further in it. PD simply cashed on the gullability of the community, knowingly promising (maybe promising is not the right word because they understand quite well what they can pull off legally) features they never planned to release (and it's not the first time either, they did the same with GT5). I enjoyed GT6 for what it was (hell, I've bought a lot worse games for more money), but I'm not expecting any major features/updates whatsoever. There's just not enough ROI.
 
I voted maybe on this poll not because I can't decide if I think it has been abandoned or not, but purely because I don't know for certain what's going on in their studio (and how could I?)

I think it is reasonable to believe that GT7 is now their main focus, but I am very confident that GT6 will be updated in the future to include most if not all of the hitherto missing features. Recall that GT6 was in development from at least as early as late 2010, but PD still forged ahead with new updates and content for GT5 for nearly 3 years. PD have probably been working on a GT for PS4 for at least 18 months, but I don't expect that GT6 has been discarded.
I understand, people want their features, I want them too, but fuming, virulent hate and despair about missing features when they aren't RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW is painful to listen to. Please, be patient, you may be right but it is far too early to decide now.
 
Hope it hasent but the more time passes the harder it is to keep hope it`ll be updated and the news of possible GT7 on ps4 really doesn't help.
 
Let's face it: the PS3 is dead, and it's no use to invest any further in it. PD simply cashed on the gullability of the community, knowingly promising (maybe promising is not the right word because they understand quite well what they can pull off legally) features they never planned to release (and it's not the first time either, they did the same with GT5). I enjoyed GT6 for what it was (hell, I've bought a lot worse games for more money), but I'm not expecting any major features/updates whatsoever. There's just not enough ROI.
WTF
Its not dead at all.
In fact, now its the best time to buy a PS3! They're super cheap, and the game catalogue is HUGE and many of them are platinum or very cheap.
 
but PD still forged ahead with new updates and content for GT5 for nearly 3 years.

If they hadn't updated GT5, and just left it as 1.01 with the odd minor bugfix, how many people do you think would have bought GT6? I'm guessing a lot less.

Updating GT5 wasn't exactly optional. It needed it. GT5 1.01 was in no way a game with 5 years of development behind it, and compared to previous GTs it was pretty poor. The good thing with GT5 was that within three months it was a profoundly different game, because they addressed a lot of the problems and added stuff where it needed to be.

The question is why hasn't that happened this time.
 
They're super cheap, and the game catalogue is HUGE and many of them are platinum or very cheap.
This is true, but I'm talking about making major investments/new development. Already, PS3/XBox 360 is an afterthought for multi-platform games, as the main focus is on PS4/Xbox One. And it pretty much works the same for console exclusives (even more so), everything's shifting to the PS4/Xbox One. So you might see a couple of VGT cars or concept cars in the upcoming months, or rehashed 'old' features (like multi-monitor support), but major development: I don't think so. They will put the majority of their team on PS4/GT7(P) development, and perhaps a small team for bugfixing/small content updates on the PS3. But definitely not the other way around.
 
Yeah, they do.

Konami/Kojima is a pretty good example right now, lots of information and interviews going around about Ground Zeroes.
Squeenix did a decent job of communicating after the atrocity that was FFXIV 1.0, and after the FFXIII shambles as well.
I'm enjoying the communication from Kadokawa Games, but that's just a crappy little web game (Kantai Collection). You need to be able to read Japanese to get the information, but it's there.

That's the only ones I have personal, recent experience with. I'm sure other people can comment on whether the other big boys like Capcom and Namco/Bandai communicate regularly, or whether they clam up like PD.

I'm pretty sure that most companies, even when they screw up (or especially when they screw up) like to reassure and communicate with their consumers.
Cheers, so other JP developers do tell their customers what's going on, why they screwed up in case they screwed up and how and when they are gonna fix it, it's just a matter of translating the Japanese then. Well; basic form of respect really, something PD isn't really showing when they screw up yet another deadline...

They are being fools really; i bet the balance fans vs critics would be restored here as it was before, if they just have the decency to communicate that what they promised is still being worked on, and will come by said date. Instead they leave everyone in the dark, don't deliver what they said they would deliver and let their fans turn away from them slowly but steadily (bar some hardcore apologists that don't know any better).
 
This is true, but I'm talking about making major investments/new development. Already, PS3/XBox 360 is an afterthought for multi-platform games, as the main focus is on PS4/Xbox One. And it pretty much works the same for console exclusives (even more so), everything's shifting to the PS4/Xbox One. So you might see a couple of VGT cars or concept cars in the upcoming months, or rehashed 'old' features (like multi-monitor support), but major development: I don't think so. They will put the majority of their team on PS4/GT7(P) development, and perhaps a small team for bugfixing/small content updates on the PS3. But definitely not the other way around.
PS3 has still Sony (and developers) support for a long time. We're in a PS3-PS4 transition period, where both consoles are supported equally. Same happened in the PS2-PS3 transition period. Heck even 3 years later than the PS3 release, there were new PS2 games being released...
 
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