How a PlayStation 6 Delay Could Impact Gran Turismo 8

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Miroku
There isn't even a point of GT8. Graphics have peaked and nobody cares about "lighting and ray tracing" apart from the hardcore tech people.
They need to just focus on adding a proper career mode and in all honesty....they could just do that for GT7 on PS4/PS5 and charge a DLC price for it and call it a day.

There is like zero reason to advance to even PS6....what will we even get on it? 1 game every 10 years? A last of us PS6 remaster? Cause PS5 has been the biggest let down in gaming since I started on Nintendo 64/PlayStation 1.

Only reason for PS6 is if they make it be able to play all playstation games from previous generations which they won't do...so there is no point.
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As far as graphics for me...my biggest irritation is that PS cannot do ultrawide monitor aspect scaling, Im also not the biggest fan of 4k gaming.
 
GingerBredMan
Do games really look any better today than they did 7 years ago? I don't see what the selling point for PS6 would be beyond being a new shiny tech product.

And for GT, what would GT8 do that GT7 & PS5 can't? It would basically boil down to a content update.
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Could look miles better in VR though, as currently it is quite limited in resolution and LOD.

And in general, not only VR, shadows in GT7 are bad, particles could be much better, rain is not very good, lights at night neither.

Don't get me wrong, game is stellar on many aspects, but there is quite a margin in terms of improvement, not in pure resolution maybe, but in what it displays in 4K.
 
GingerBredMan
Do games really look any better today than they did 7 years ago? I don't see what the selling point for PS6 would be beyond being a new shiny tech product.

And for GT, what would GT8 do that GT7 & PS5 can't? It would basically boil down to a content update.
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Multi-Class racing with more than 40 cars total could easily be a big feature in the next game, at least in single-player.
 
GingerBredMan
Do games really look any better today than they did 7 years ago? I don't see what the selling point for PS6 would be beyond being a new shiny tech product.

And for GT, what would GT8 do that GT7 & PS5 can't? It would basically boil down to a content update.
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12 drivers lobby in 2025 is hilarious and sad at the same time, content update lmao
 
I'm sure they can focus on bringing content to GT7 that can easily be carried over to GT8. Sort of like what F1 teams do in terms of development in the current year when they already know they lost the championship and have budget caps. Scanning cars and tracks and training AI will likely carry over nicely.
 
Dwhite
Multi-Class racing with more than 40 cars total could easily be a big feature in the next game, at least in single-player.
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Mattylatvala
12 drivers lobby in 2025 is hilarious and sad at the same time, content update lmao
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I honestly forgot about lobby sizes. With how low that number has increased between games, the idea of more than 30 cars in a race seems like decades away.

I feel like AI multi-class would take too long to implement properly. It only works with real drivers but just my opinion.
 
suomi1
The PS4 could already run GT Sport with 38 cars on the Nürburgring and rain before crashing. I think there is no need of a PS6 for that.

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Don't you think you'd need a more powerful console for 38 cars on the Nurb and rain without crashing?

Maybe more than 38?
 
Well the good thing is the ps5's will be around for a bit longer until they actually start to develop the ps6. I guess many folks aren't ready for gt8 anyways since gt7 has already tons of cars, features, game modes and extra added content. We'll see what the future brings. My mom is going to get me a ps5 soon whenever we can afford one. It might take Sony a long time to figure out how to configure the ps6 and for creating it.
 
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Chris30
Well the good thing is the ps5's will be around for a bit longer until they actually start to develop the ps6. I guess many folks aren't ready for gt8 anyways since gt7 has already tons of cars, features, game modes and extra added content. We'll see what the future brings. My mom is going to get me a ps5 soon whenever we can afford one. It might take Sony a long time to figure out how to configure the ps6 and for creating it.
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I can see where you're coming from, but people would want an all-new campaign for the next game.

Let's be honest here, GT7's campaign is boring. Cafe menus should only be as a side-quest to learn about cars.
 
Dwhite
Multi-Class racing with more than 40 cars total could easily be a big feature in the next game, at least in single-player.
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This is about the only thing I really would want from a next gen console. Being able to have even 30 at Le Mans and Nurburgring would be awesome. 40 with multiple classes AND a podium per class would be the dream
 
Famine
Across PlayStation's lifetime, the median gap between console generations is almost bob-on 6.5 years:

PS1 - December 1994
PS2 - March 2000 (5y3m)
PS3 - November 2006 (6y8m)
PS4 - November 2013 (7y0m)
PS5 - November 2020 (7y0m)

With almost exactly seven years between the last two generations it's reasonable to conclude a 6.5/7-year gap between the PS5 and PS6, placing it at May to November 2027 - and the latter more likely.

Each console was announced well before it arrived, although it depends on whether you count announcing its existence, name, or design as the announcement.

Sony first confirmed "PlayStation" in October 1993 (about 1y2m before it launched), revealing it in May 1994 (7m before launch). PS2 was first revealed in March 1999 (about 1y before launch), and PS3 announced in September 2004 (2y2m before launch) before a reveal in May 2005 (1y6m before launch). PS4 had very little lead time, announced in February 2013 (9m before launch), while the PlayStation 5 was first announced in April 2019 (1y7m before launch).

If November 2027 was to be the launch date (and most of the industry seemed to think late-2027 was about right, coinciding with the next XBox), that puts us right in the window for at least an announcement confirming its existence/name any time around now, and a design sometime around April-May this year.


That all, of course, looks like it's no longer the case.
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It's trully incredible how this gen really doesn't look like it's going to be replaced... Don't know about you all, but I really feel like it's somewhere in the middle haha.

We still have new games crossgen being launched to the old gen, and big ones about one or two years ago.

I think pandemic and now the component crisis broke all the cicle... And with Xbox new philosopy makes this cicle more strange for Sony, with the infos that we have so far the competition of consoles have a brand new perspective:

Sony: still playing the traditional console game. PS6 makes sense, because PS brand sells a lot.
Xbox/MS: trying to explore new possibilities and trying to expand the Netflix model of gaming. They don't care more about brand, just for easy money.
Nintendo: The most successful. Abandoning the console wars after Gamecube was the best decision they made. They nourished their own market and wins every new console. (let's not talk abou WiiU :P)
 
DanBrand
Nintendo: The most successful. Abandoning the console wars after Gamecube was the best decision they made. They nourished their own market and wins every new console. (let's not talk abou WiiU :P)
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It's quite fair of me to say that if it weren't for the fact I would miss out on a Gran Turismo game, I probably would just jump back onto that Nintendo ship, which I've been away from since roughly 2005.
 
Rangeraus
Isn't that an argument for GT8 releasing on PS6?

If it is released on PS5, you might get 1-2 years of GT8 on PS5 exclusively, then the PS6 will release.

Presumably the game would then be re-released with a PS6 version... and you would have exactly the same scenario as GT7, where the new game is limited by features (particularly online) that have to work concurrently on two different consoles.
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Fair comment.

Then release GT8 Prolog on the PS5 and the GT8 (proper) on PS6 (perhaps a year after launch when the install base has grown).
 
Dwhite
I can see where you're coming from, but people would want an all-new campaign for the next game.

Let's be honest here, GT7's campaign is boring. Cafe menus should only be as a side-quest to learn about cars.
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Well the same campaign events can be boring after sometime, (Sunday Cup, Clubman Cup, FR Challenge, Nissan GT-R Cup, etc). But the sport mode never gets old from my view. I'm sure other would agree. However the daily races too can be boring based on some of the worst combos some folks may remember from 2023 and 2024.
 
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benjoi84
It's quite fair of me to say that if it weren't for the fact I would miss out on a Gran Turismo game, I probably would just jump back onto that Nintendo ship, which I've been away from since roughly 2005.
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Yeah, Nintendo for us that love games like GT doesn't have any options. That's one point for me that made me had just one Nintendo Wii in 2013. Stayed with it less then a year, then, never got back again to the big N. I couldn't live without GT (and money to buy more than one console at the time haha).
 
I have said it before, and I will believe it until the day passes to prove me wrong.

December 23, 2027 is the 30th anniversary. The perfect date for a 30th anniversary edition of the game, a special console, and other assorted special merch. There's no way they will release before that date, and missing that date would be an big hit to profits. Like, there's no desire for a 29th anniversary game (this year) or a 31st anniversary game (2028). There's really no excuse.

Everyone thought GT6 would launch on PS4, but they didn't wait.
 
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Voodoovaj
I have said it before, and I will believe it until the day passes to prove me wrong.

December 23, 2027 is the 30th anniversary. The perfect date for a 30th anniversary edition of the game, a special console, and other assorted special merch. There's no way they will release before that date, and missing that date would be an big hit to profits. Like, there's no desire for a 29th anniversary game (this year) or a 31st anniversary game (2028). There's really no excuse.

Everyone thought GT6 would launch on PS4, but they didn't wait.
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You conveniently forget that GT6 had the lowest sales of the franchise, having released shortly before the PS4 arrived.

And because of that, there is an excuse to wait it out for the next console. There's no reason to have a game every five years to celebrate a game series. Yes it makes profit, but development times are only going to go higher, and rushing a game out to meet a deadline makes it have more bugs and glitches than if not rushed.
 
Here is my take on the matter from different perspectives:
And as I have previously explained many moons ago

Console perspective:
PS5 and PS5 Pro is still selling rather well.
Many more of you are still on the PS4 generation and have yet to move to PS5/pro.
Sony knows this.... PS5 family can still sell well for 2 or 3 years.
To me it looks like Sony might take advantage of that ,.and work on the PS6 to add more future proof features and functions, Ai and PSVR3 hardware...
It.makes.most sense to have an announcement release of PS6 for Holiday season 2029, and start 2030s with brand new PS6.


GT8 perspective:
Full Gran Turismo games are console drivers and sellers...it makes much more sense to me that GT8 should be a PS6 exclusive, maybe even a special package combo.
I want it that way and that would be ready to buy it, but not in two years, even if it released...

And then whenever PSVR3 is ready, I think 2031 or 2032 at the latest, they might even do another special GT8 bundle...


PD and Kaz situation
As much as we all want a proper 30th GT anniversary edition, I don't think Kaz and PD is realistically ready for it...
They could release something then, but it won't be worthy of a 30th anniversary edition.

They will release something for sure in 2027, but I doubt it will be GT8.

I can see a Spec IV with very extensive power pack for the 30th anniversary, and even before then, possibly end of 2026 we could see a second PowerPack.

Then GT7 Spec V to release in 2029 to allow some partial GTSport cross play with GT8,

And finally a Spec VI in 2033 as the final one to force everyone to upgrade to the PS6.

I can see longer life span for both the GT7 and PS5 family overlapping a bit with the GT8 / PS6 / PSVR3..


Times are rather difficult financially for a lot of people, people are tired having to update and update constantly... Let's have everyone on the PS5 family first, kill the PS4 generation, and only then can the PS6 show up
KAlex122
What about money!?!? ;)
The single most important point for the developer.
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As for money, looking at the good review of the latest Power Pack, I can definitely see at least 2 or 3 Power Packs release between now and 2030, to add revenues, and continue for the PS5 family of hardware being sold until PS6 can be polished.


I don't see the benefits of releasing PS6 in 2027....
From a technical standpoint, pS5 Pro is still very strong., even by then....

GT8 needs to be crazy good, especially with PSVR3 on PS6, and that requires a lot of time.... Which is not realistic for 2027, and barely even for 2030, but that makes most sense to me.
 
TheNormsk
Fair comment.

Then release GT8 Prolog on the PS5 and the GT8 (proper) on PS6 (perhaps a year after launch when the install base has grown).
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My preference would be for GT7 PS4 online support to be ended with a reasonable notice period. You could then have a major game update on the PS5 game version to improve some if not all of the functionality that is currently limited by concurrent PS4 and PS5 support.

That way, if the PS6 arrives before the next GT title, you would at least a period of time where the game is hitting somewhere close to its PS5 potential. You would also avoid the plausible situation of people playing the PS5 GT7 version on a PS6 in online races against people still playing the game on the 2013-spec PS4.

But that option would depend on the planned release dates of GT8 and PS6. Either way, I don't think a GT8 Prologue would be a very marketable or viable solution in the era of Gaming as a Service.
 
My ideas (some are bad :D) for the ps6:
  • no optical drive -> everything is "digital" and bound to an account, no more freeloading :D
  • hdmi 2.2 support, 8k 120hz (priority for details) and 4k 240hz (high refresh rate) modes
  • 5g modem
  • (some sort of) liquid cooling (could become a "must have" with high power components)

To be honest I don't know what else could be improved :D
The ps4 pro and ps5 already introduced "game changing" features like hdr (awesome colours & contrast on properly configured monitors/tvs), vrr (no or less tearing) and 4k support
 
I just dont see gt8 being ps6 exklusive, maybe i am wrong but time will tell. Gt7 is quite sterile and would like to see a reveal soon even if its 2 years away or more dosent matter it will generate hype.
 
Dwhite
You conveniently forget that GT6 had the lowest sales of the franchise, having released shortly before the PS4 arrived.
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Completely irrelevant. In fact, it emphasizes my point. PS4 was released at the end of 2013. GT6 in Spring of 2013.

In order to make a game for a console, you need the dev kits, and those dev kits need to be finalized before you can get the most out of your game. PD has always had historically long dev cycles and likely had a choice to make, either release on PS3 for the 15th anniversary, or release on PS4 and likely miss the 15th anniversary. They chose to release on PS3.

They'll make the same choice this time. Bank on it.

ruestchiva
GT7 is not even finished yet, what are you talking about GT8...
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They days of a game being "finished" at launch are LONG gone. By adding to a game over the life of the game, you maintain a long tail of sales. They won't give up on that because it solves one of the biggest issues in game development, cashflow.
 
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Subtle1
What delay?

Provide evidence.

Sony's CFO said in November that PS5's life cycle would be extended hinting that the PS6 wouldn't launch until 2030.

What evidence do you have that counters SONY's leadership? What evidence do you have that shows a PS6 release date.

Nice ragebait, clown.
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Nice first post. Now try reading the article before you bait yourself into raging about it.
 
Famine
Nice first post. Now try reading the article before you bait yourself into raging about it.
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Journos who write ragebait headlines want rage bait replies.

That's literally why it's called trolling. Because, like a fisherman he's cast his line in the water and it's trolling for hits.

He made an unsubstantiated claim that the PS6 was delayed. He doesn't have evidence.

It's that simple.
 

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