- 842
- San Francisco, CA
- pixel_activist
you Traded Dirt 3 in? your crazy lol And I really don't see how you can like Dirt 2 better than 3.
How are the physics?
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you Traded Dirt 3 in? your crazy lol And I really don't see how you can like Dirt 2 better than 3.
- 1,449
- San Antonio Tex
- Vaxxtx
- Vaxxtx
I think Dirt2 looks, plays, and sounds better to be honest. More tracks, more locations, and more variety in cars that can be used. Oh...and rally/raid stages in Dirt2 are leaps and bounds more fun. They actually have more than 2-3 sharp turns, and last more than a 1 1/2 minutes. And the singleplayer campaign lasts longer than a day.
You seen the videos on people beating D3 on HARD no Assists without use brakes? ITs pretty sad.
And the best thing.....no drifting or gymkhana in D2.
The ONLY reason I kept D3 is for 2 things:
1. The online hardcore mode
2. Cat n mouse online.
In between playing Shift2 I pop in D3 for 30mins-1hour for a little "fun". Not sure how long that will last though.
Other than that, I find the career a snoozefest.
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- tribolik
I was planning on getting Dirt 3 tomorrow and trading in Dirt 2... but you say Dirt 2 is less arcadey?????????
hahaha, dirt 3 is fun buut go try some richard burns rally if you want a closer feel to real rallying.
Yeah just too bad the dirt and tarmac physics are the same in that series...
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- GTP_Spag69
- spagetti69
@Trib.
The brake in 3 seems far too good, when you need it. Which isn't a lot really. The tracks are very wide and very short.
The best physics seem to be on Ghymkhana, seemed really good in the compound and tricks are fun.
Don't go buying if your after a sim or a rally game.
I bet the online is fun though and this game definitely has appeal to lots.
Just wasn't my cup of tea sorry.
The brake in 3 seems far too good, when you need it. Which isn't a lot really. The tracks are very wide and very short.
The best physics seem to be on Ghymkhana, seemed really good in the compound and tricks are fun.
Don't go buying if your after a sim or a rally game.
I bet the online is fun though and this game definitely has appeal to lots.
Just wasn't my cup of tea sorry.
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- tribolik
Maybe they swaped the files or something and put dirt brakes on F1 2010 and F1 brakes on Dirt 3... the brake physics in codemasters games are always a bit off. The thing is I really enjoyed Dirt 2 but you said it was more satisfactory that 3?! I still do some rally on 2 and I wouldnt like to make a mistake like that (trade in a better game...)
I like sims a lot but I ll take a fun racing game over a boring Sim any day of the week as long as its believable enough... IMO Dirt 2 was believable and fun... a bit arcadey but much better than Grid IMO(I hated GRID)
- 5,677
- United Kingdom
- Dragonistic
Keep in mind, as Spag has established and stated, he is in a minority. I personally love the game and prefer it to Dirt 1 and 2 (due to physics over 1 and more rallying over 2 particularly car wise).
It isn't the hardcore rally game some people wanted and were fooled into thinking it was going to be, but it is an excellent racer. The physics are very, very similar to Dirt 2 to the point I think some cars from Dirt 2 which are in the Dirt 2 open class are near identical to their predecessor.
Much like 2 in that respect the physics aren't realistic, but they're realistic enough to not detach you from the experience. The braking may be to quick by realistic standards but it doesn't ruin the experience at all, particularly if you're more interested in physics to race rather then just drive which can be said for most arcade racers.
Overall I think the blend is right between arcade and realism, it's accessible enough for newcomers and challenging for the more serious who want to set the top times. If you enjoyed Dirt 2s physics you should enjoy 3 as well it's not really that different as someone who had 1000 races online on Dirt 2. Once you're online battling for position be it on the stage or the circuit (like Dirt 2 avoid ranked circuit due to dirty drivers!), you won't be thinking about how different the physics are to the other games in the series.
It isn't the hardcore rally game some people wanted and were fooled into thinking it was going to be, but it is an excellent racer. The physics are very, very similar to Dirt 2 to the point I think some cars from Dirt 2 which are in the Dirt 2 open class are near identical to their predecessor.
Much like 2 in that respect the physics aren't realistic, but they're realistic enough to not detach you from the experience. The braking may be to quick by realistic standards but it doesn't ruin the experience at all, particularly if you're more interested in physics to race rather then just drive which can be said for most arcade racers.
Overall I think the blend is right between arcade and realism, it's accessible enough for newcomers and challenging for the more serious who want to set the top times. If you enjoyed Dirt 2s physics you should enjoy 3 as well it's not really that different as someone who had 1000 races online on Dirt 2. Once you're online battling for position be it on the stage or the circuit (like Dirt 2 avoid ranked circuit due to dirty drivers!), you won't be thinking about how different the physics are to the other games in the series.
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- Upstate NY
- BWX232
I don't know, my favorite Rally sim ever is Richard Burns Rally, but I liked CMR 1 and 2, and I think 3, can't remember, it's been a while- but after playing demos and renting Dirt 1 and 2 I didn't buy the games because I thought the physics were crap, at least while using G25 on the PS3.
I wanted to like D1 and D2 too, I thought GFX and sounds were good and the tracks were good, I just didn't like the physics. I bought D3 on release day and after 10 minutes experimenting with wheel settings, I was very impressed with the physics. Of course it's no RBR, but with all aids off in hood cam or cockpit view, it's a lot of fun. On level 6 Ai, it can even be extremely hard - sometimes. Just my $0.02
I wanted to like D1 and D2 too, I thought GFX and sounds were good and the tracks were good, I just didn't like the physics. I bought D3 on release day and after 10 minutes experimenting with wheel settings, I was very impressed with the physics. Of course it's no RBR, but with all aids off in hood cam or cockpit view, it's a lot of fun. On level 6 Ai, it can even be extremely hard - sometimes. Just my $0.02
- 842
- San Francisco, CA
- pixel_activist
Dirt 2 was the same way lol I NEVER uses my brakes, I just tapped gas lol
I suppose its all different with a wheel though, which in anyones argument, Dirt 2's wheel config is horrible and un-drivable.
I truly don't know how you guys can like Dirt 2's campaign better AND think there were more tracks, Thats why I HATED 2. Dirt 1 had so many, then they dropped to like 12 total.
A underrated rally game right now IS WRC 2010. If you are a big rally fan, such as myself, WRC 2010 is a game to snag.
GT5 will win my rally-heart when they put in the , False advertised, point-to-point option in course maker.
-Randomly generated stages
-1 lap "pace note taking"
-Run rally
-Perfect rally experience? lol
BWX, yes 6 is crazy hard, you have to hit everything perfectly lol
All in all, to each his own
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- 3,195
- tribolik
I just got the game and I have to say that... that must be a joke...
I dont feel all that much improvement from Dirt2 physics and nowhere near GT5s physics IMO...
Do those guys work for codies???? its nowhere near a sim... it is alot of fun but so was Dirt 2 but the physics are arcadish like...
- 1,449
- San Antonio Tex
- Vaxxtx
- Vaxxtx
Dirt 2 was the same way lol I NEVER uses my brakes, I just tapped gas lol
I suppose its all different with a wheel though, which in anyones argument, Dirt 2's wheel config is horrible and un-drivable.
I truly don't know how you guys can like Dirt 2's campaign better AND think there were more tracks, Thats why I HATED 2. Dirt 1 had so many, then they dropped to like 12 total.
A underrated rally game right now IS WRC 2010. If you are a big rally fan, such as myself, WRC 2010 is a game to snag.
GT5 will win my rally-heart when they put in the , False advertised, point-to-point option in course maker.
-Randomly generated stages
-1 lap "pace note taking"
-Run rally
-Perfect rally experience? lol
BWX, yes 6 is crazy hard, you have to hit everything perfectly lol
All in all, to each his own
I find the lack of a steering lock in D3 above 180 makes is hard to control with precision a big turnoff. For some reason D2 never gave me issues with my DFGT.
To each his own I do agree, but I find D2 much more interesting, and have only been playing D3 for the online.
I saw WRC 2010, anyone else play it? Physics better I assume than all the Dirts?
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- Minardi-1
I play WRC 2010 and I like It, I agree with Grafpt, very underrated game. I can't really compare with the Dirt series as I only have Dirt 1. I prefer dedicated games, like WRC 2010 with a true championship and such. You can't compare WRC2010 with Dirt If you are talking graphics or sound, but I like WRC's handling, cars and competions (from J-WRC till WRC), online mode is good too.
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- Shrewsbury
- pezzarinho17
I play all my driving games with a DS3 (unfortunately) and I'm far more into track racing than rally. Therefore the following comments won't apply to the masses!
I have the same issue with this game as I do with F1 2010, which is low speed, uncorrectable oversteer. Countersteering does nothing, nor does releasing the throttle and the brake just stops the slide at 90 to the track rather than in a barrier. I blame that on the lack of feeling through the steering of a controller, you should be able to detect that happening way before it is too late.
I wanted DiRT 3 so I could just thrash a car about without much thought going into it (hooning :-) ) whereas I want realism when playing my other racing games. I think on this front it is very good, you can really customise the feel / difficulty so the car just goes where you want it, or up to the full challenge. Generally though, it feels more like Race Driver Grid so its not great for those after a simulation.
I have the same issue with this game as I do with F1 2010, which is low speed, uncorrectable oversteer. Countersteering does nothing, nor does releasing the throttle and the brake just stops the slide at 90 to the track rather than in a barrier. I blame that on the lack of feeling through the steering of a controller, you should be able to detect that happening way before it is too late.
I wanted DiRT 3 so I could just thrash a car about without much thought going into it (hooning :-) ) whereas I want realism when playing my other racing games. I think on this front it is very good, you can really customise the feel / difficulty so the car just goes where you want it, or up to the full challenge. Generally though, it feels more like Race Driver Grid so its not great for those after a simulation.
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- Kentucky, USA
- James_Page
- PageyTheSquid
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003B20ODC/?tag=gtplanet-20
There's a link to the UK version, but it's $60 plus whatever shipping would be.
Parker
is richard burns rally worth it? I've been looking to grab up some rally games and put my g27 to some good use. It's been sitting collecting dust since january since gt5 sucked my balls. Picked up dirt 3 this week, love it. kinda looking for some insight. Also thinking about picking up wrc 2010.
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- Hammerhead Garage
RICHARD BURNS RALLY is notorious as one of the most hardcore simulators available. It's got one of the most difficult learning curves of pretty much any video game ever made.
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- Wales
Richard Burns is an amazing game, I honestly don't think its as hard as people think. If you go into it with the intention of flooring it a lot then you will find it hard, as soon as you stop flooring it you will also start making it around stages quite often without smashing up your car.
Dirt 3 is also pretty amazing though, much easier than RBR while still offering a decent rally sim experience. Personally I think Dirt 3 is the best rally game out there, RBR is a great sim and a good game, but it is dated and perhaps a little too unforgiving for the average joe. If you're looking for a hardcore sim then RBR is your game, but if you want a great game that is also a decent sim, stick with Dirt 3.
Dirt 3 is also pretty amazing though, much easier than RBR while still offering a decent rally sim experience. Personally I think Dirt 3 is the best rally game out there, RBR is a great sim and a good game, but it is dated and perhaps a little too unforgiving for the average joe. If you're looking for a hardcore sim then RBR is your game, but if you want a great game that is also a decent sim, stick with Dirt 3.
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- San Francisco, CA
- pixel_activist
I have been playing WRC 2010 and now that I've played it again, it is seriously underrated!! As we have discussed it's a little tricky to get it in the US, but all UK drivers need to snag this. I really hope they make a new one.
As Bigbazz said with RBR, the same goes for WRC2010. You can not go into it with a Dirt frame of mind, just mashing the gas down and such.
Also playing this, and playing Dirt 3, I came to discover that the lack of narrow roads on Dirt 3 is much more of a let down now than it was when it was released.
As Bigbazz said with RBR, the same goes for WRC2010. You can not go into it with a Dirt frame of mind, just mashing the gas down and such.
Also playing this, and playing Dirt 3, I came to discover that the lack of narrow roads on Dirt 3 is much more of a let down now than it was when it was released.
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- United Kingdom
- Dragonistic
There is a demo for WRC 2010, I didn't much care for it on pad at least it just didn't feel fun and was very boat-ish. Wheel maybe not, but pad there's no question which I'd play of that and Dirt.
- 842
- San Francisco, CA
- pixel_activist
WRC was defiantly designed to be played with a wheel, so I dont doubt it was lame with a pad lol
Dirt 3 is designed for a pad but has good support for wheels.
WRC is just for the rally nuts, like myself. Its in between Dirt3 and RBR in my opinion.
just downloaded RBR demo played it for a bit. its hard but i like it. very unforgiven when mistakes are made. Im probably gonna pick up the game. i downloaded the WRC 2010 demo as well, for some reason my wheel wasnt supported(g27) on the demo. But i will probably pick that up as well.
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- Hammerhead Garage
If you want to experience tricky physics in DIRT 3, get your hands on the MK.II Escort Cosworth. It's bloody difficult to drive.
- 33,155
- Hammerhead Garage
The Z4 is a good car for Trailblazer. Especially if you're just starting out or don't know the stages intimates. I have to laugh every time someone goes for the SX4 (or in the Classic class, the Tacoma) simply because it's the most powerful. I've had way more success with less-powerful cars - like the Z4 and the Quattro - simply because I can control them. I've kind of graduated to the likes of the SX4 and the PM580, especially in Kenya and Michigan, because I know the stages well enough, and I'm learning the Norway ones (I can do Hafjell Decent and Vaaler Climb really well, but it's the third stage, Nordsetervegen) that I find difficult). The Finland ones a complete mystery to me because even though they all use the same core section of the stage (which is one of the best pieces of road in the game), it's the peripheral stuff that still throws me. So I still use the Z4 there.
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- risewithefallen2
physics are fun to me, but ive never driven a rally cart flat out so i wouldnt know for sure. cars seem to spin a lot though
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