I present to you: Nürburgring Nordschleife

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Hmm... this thread seems to be moving away from talk about the Ring and towards bashing others for their opinions.
 
well, here's a better driver :P vids blurry though
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/4277130/..._Playstation_3

btw KUDOS to Goldrusher of GAF
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I just watched this video and while the driving was so much better. The track was so overexposed that I couldn't even see where he was going...

Also, I was just looking at the results from the 24h again and I noticed the lack of GTRs. You would think that with all the hoopla that Nissan would send at least 1 or 2 to kick some German ass...

http://adac.24h-rennen.de/live/datenbank.html

I'm glad the Rover Mini finished, I was rooting for them also...
 
arvin charles
I just watched this video and while the driving was so much better. The track was so overexposed that I couldn't even see where he was going...

Also, I was just looking at the results from the 24h again and I noticed the lack of GTRs. You would think that with all the hoopla that Nissan would send at least 1 or 2 to kick some German ass...

http://adac.24h-rennen.de/live/datenbank.html

I'm glad the Rover Mini finished, I was rooting for them also...
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the GTR was just released and it was developed in secret so no race teams have had the time yet to build a race version of the car yet. if the car was designed side by side with with the production model like the the C6.R was built as the C6 was being built then yes we would be able to see a race version of the GTR (what would the race version be designated the GTR-R?) but my guess is we wont see a race variant of the GTR until next year and probably not a competitive one until 2010.
 
I too would be happy with just even an up-rezz'd GT4 version of the Nordschleife. I only hope that they give us this one...and soon! Taking a look, though, I think there have been some changes made to the track, but most of the videos are pretty blurry. Hope they plan to also add the F1 track and half-F1 track at some point as well.
 
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the GTR was just released and it was developed in secret so no race teams have had the time yet to build a race version of the car yet. if the car was designed side by side with with the production model like the the C6.R was built as the C6 was being built then yes we would be able to see a race version of the GTR (what would the race version be designated the GTR-R?) but my guess is we wont see a race variant of the GTR until next year and probably not a competitive one until 2010.
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arvin charles
I just watched this video and while the driving was so much better. The track was so overexposed that I couldn't even see where he was going...

Also, I was just looking at the results from the 24h again and I noticed the lack of GTRs. You would think that with all the hoopla that Nissan would send at least 1 or 2 to kick some German ass...

http://adac.24h-rennen.de/live/datenbank.html

I'm glad the Rover Mini finished, I was rooting for them also...
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Now we're getting OT, but look at some of cars from the race -

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/se...&N=&E=24_Hours_of_the_Nurburgri/Saturday_race

Who wants to throw in £ 10 to race a GTP 24 hour crew + car. If TG can, so can GTP !...
 
nissan tuner
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Those cars have as much the same with the street GTR as does the 911 GT1 to a standard 996.

Nissan runs a VK45DE V8 power plant and about the only thing that is off the production car, is pieces of the dash and little items like rear tail lights.
Its even rear wheel drive.

It's the same thing as a c6r and a dbr9 running in gt1, very few things remained the same.
 
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so i was wrong i havent seen those cars before and i was under the assumption that they havnt started working on race variants yet seeing as they were still testing the car at nurburgring a month ago. thanks for those pictures ill have to look into those cars. so are they competitive yet? cuz i cant see a new make of a car being able to just roll of the line and instantly being able to win races. well at least most cars arent that way only a few exceptions.
 
It's the same thing as a c6r and a dbr9 running in gt1, very few things remained the same.
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Not quite, the GT500 cars have less things in common with the road car than a GT1 car. It's closer to DTM, where the cars are silhouette racers that are pretty much prototypes underneath.

so are they competitive yet?
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I can't find the link, but IIRC, I remember reading that it won the first race...Correct me if I'm wrong.

Now we're getting OT, but look at some of cars from the race -

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/sel.../Saturday_race
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Thanks for the pics! I enjoyed them very much.
 
NapoleonMikey
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so i was wrong i havent seen those cars before and i was under the assumption that they havnt started working on race variants yet seeing as they were still testing the car at nurburgring a month ago. thanks for those pictures ill have to look into those cars. so are they competitive yet? cuz i cant see a new make of a car being able to just roll of the line and instantly being able to win races. well at least most cars arent that way only a few exceptions.
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#23 nismo team is leading the super GT GT500. nissan announced the car on Oct. 25 has been testing the car since November
 
it does look nice, i hope we get this on gt5p and don't have to wait for GT5. i'm getting a little bored of suzuka, fuji and HSR now.
 
what I don't understand is how people can post that they are happy to wait until 2009+ for content to arrive in GT5, when we currently have GT5P with a tiny 6 tracks in the list.

Giving us that pretty good looking Nordschleife now would go a long way to enhancing the longevity of GT5P to keep people interested for the next year or 1.5 years until GT5 finally gets released. In the meantime we'll see at least 3-4 PC sims and probably a couple of console sim releases which will turn up to hold our interest, all before GT5 comes.

Don't forget that by the time GT5 arrives PC sims will look as good or better, and the "blow us away" factor will be greatly lessened... so giving us Nordschleife now might well blow us away far more than it would blow us away in the full GT5 in 2009+ ;)
 
I'd settle for any 2 'traditional' style racetracks. By 'traditional' I mean ruling out specialist tracks like the daytona oval and high speed ring, neither of which have any interest to me. Basically, as far as I'm concerned prologue has 3 tracks - Suzuka, Fuji and Eiger, the latter of which I find a bit slow for anything other than low power or 4wd cars. London is a disaster and Daytona road just hasn't got enough to peak my interest.

The ring would be nice but I'd probably be happier with a shorter track in there too. Grand valley or Trial mountain perhaps or maybe that bloody brilliant el capitan from GT4

Please note - this is a personal thing, I'm sure there are a lot of people who like Daytona and HSR and, I guess, even London (although I can't for the life of me think of one redeeming feature) but I'm sure there are a bunch of people who feel the same way I do and It strikes me that we got a bit of a bum deal.

The full game is going to have dozens of tracks and hundreds of cars, not to mention full tuning customisation and a whole slew of other extras. If PD were to release another 10 tracks and 50 cars between now and full release I'm pretty sure 99% of us would still go out and buy it. I'd just like as much as I can get my grubby little mitts on before that. :)
 
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I'd settle for any 2 'traditional' style racetracks. By 'traditional' I mean ruling out specialist tracks like the daytona oval and high speed ring, neither of which have any interest to me. Basically, as far as I'm concerned prologue has 3 tracks - Suzuka, Fuji and Eiger, the latter of which I find a bit slow for anything other than low power or 4wd cars. London is a disaster and Daytona road just hasn't got enough to peak my interest.

The ring would be nice but I'd probably be happier with a shorter track in there too. Grand valley or Trial mountain perhaps or maybe that bloody brilliant el capitan from GT4

Please note - this is a personal thing, I'm sure there are a lot of people who like Daytona and HSR and, I guess, even London (although I can't for the life of me think of one redeeming feature) but I'm sure there are a bunch of people who feel the same way I do and It strikes me that we got a bit of a bum deal.

The full game is going to have dozens of tracks and hundreds of cars, not to mention full tuning customisation and a whole slew of other extras. If PD were to release another 10 tracks and 50 cars between now and full release I'm pretty sure 99% of us would still go out and buy it. I'd just like as much as I can get my grubby little mitts on before that. :)
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Yeah, I would much prefer GT to feature a lot more "proper" race circuits, although street circuits are welcome too. I hope they make more of an effort to get more real life race circuits in GT5, it certainly looks like they are. Not that I dont want to see the fake tracks, because they are still great, its just a shame to miss out on the hundreds of great tracks out there (as can be seen in the track wishlist).
 
London is a laugh for hotlapping. Total commitment required and a very clear idea of how wide the car is. :)

Racing there would be fine if GT5P had AI which was aware of you and gave you room if you had the inside line for corners, etc... As it is, online would be a ram-fest, and offline is let down by the AI.
 
I certainly don't mind the made-up tracks I reckon some of these are pretty awesome and would rank el capitan and trial mountain amongst my favourite GT tracks of all time. But several of the tracks are one trick ponies - eiger being a case in point. Drive anything fast around there and it just becomes an exercise in parking through sector 1.
 
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I certainly don't mind the made-up tracks I reckon some of these are pretty awesome and would rank el capitan and trial mountain amongst my favourite GT tracks of all time. But several of the tracks are one trick ponies - eiger being a case in point. Drive anything fast around there and it just becomes an exercise in parking through sector 1.
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Well, they do need some short circuits for the lower class cars, its pretty boring driving around Le Mans in something that can't get past 120mph. Eiger is one of those, just like Autumn Ring Mini or Beginner Course. Then again, they could get some more real life short-length circuits.

I love El Capitan too, I'd love to see Red Rock Valley return too.
 
From Gran Turismo 2, I haven't played it for a long while so I can't remember the layout, but I think it was a kind of figure of eight style, with one corner being a progressively sharper corner with a slow drop. It was always raced at dusk/dawn or something like that.
I remember it most because it was the last race for the MR Cup and if you won, you unlocked the Ford GT40 racecar.
 
I hope that we can get the Rome course included once again. I also really liked the Assisi course, and the New York course. Yeah, New York wasn't technical, but man, you could reach some insane speeds on those straights :-)
 
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