if i suck in GT6 would i be a bad driver?

[Alex Ojideagu]

Then I started driving lessons when I was seventeen. I had only had three lessons and my instructor put me in for my test. I passed first time
👍

I can assure you you didn't pass in London! IMO There are so many situations in a big city that 3 hours practice isn't anywhere near enough. Huge multi lane roundabouts everywhere, insane drivers, pedestrians everywhere, road layouts etc. You need at least 30 lessons experience to drive in London. There is way more to driving than being able to physically drive a car. Did you pass in Scotland in the sticks?

 

[BrodieBoi94]

Experience behind the wheel virtually vs experience behind the wheel actually are two completely different "beasts".

When I was younger I always thought that my experience and understanding gained from playing GT and other race sims for so long would make me the Michael Schumacher (Get well soon) of the driving world.

But I will never forget how lost I felt my first time driving a real car, manual and all. If anything being a good driver in real life helped me be a better driver in GT.

So bottom line if your skills in GT aren't as great as you want them to be, don't worry because they won't mirror your real life driving ability. You can be a GREAT driver in reality.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

But I will never forget how lost I felt my first time driving a real car, manual and all. If anything being a good driver in real life helped me be a better driver in GT.

I agree, learning to drive in London with a manual (everyone drives manual in the UK)was terrifying the first few lessons. It made me improve in GT and driving games even with a DS3, but not vice versa.

Learning to drive after years of GT makes you view playing GT totally differently afterwards, especially in cockpit and roof views. You won't notice this if you could already drive before ever playing GT.

 

[thehobnob97]

I am currently learning to drive and the first lesson is always he hardest, stalling 8 times is normal and perfectly ok, even after over 10 lessons, I am ok but my clutch control still leaves a fair bit to be desired. at the end of the day, practice is the most important thing you can do when you are starting to drive on the road.
One thing I noticed on my first driving lesson is that when you watch your parents do it, you think driving a car will be easy but in reality, it is because they have spent many years driving.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

I am currently learning to drive and the first lesson is always he hardest, stalling 8 times is normal and perfectly ok, even after over 10 lessons, I am ok but my clutch control still leaves a fair bit to be desired. at the end of the day, practice is the most important thing you can do when you are starting to drive on the road.
One thing I noticed on my first driving lesson is that when you watch your parents do it, you think driving a car will be easy but in reality, it is because they have spent many years driving.

Yes, learning to drive feels nothing like you imagined it would for many lessons. Clutch control is a whole skill in itself. The most important thing is not to rush. Many people who boast how few lessons they took and passed first time are the one's who end up crashing due to overconfidence and inexperience. Learning to drive is much more than being able to drive the car.

 

[Mr Grumpy]

U got driving license in real life then u are qualified to go

I mean how often u guys would push the gas pedal all the way down when you are driving in real traffic?

Every time I get in it I love driving my car like I stole it

 

[BrodieBoi94]

I agree, learning to drive in London with a manual (everyone drives manual in the UK)was terrifying the first few lessons. It made me improve in GT and driving games even with a DS3, but not vice versa.

Learning to drive after years of GT makes you view playing GT totally differently afterwards, especially in cockpit and roof views. You won't notice this if you could already drive before ever playing GT.

Must have really sharpened your skills driving those narrow roads.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

Must have really sharpened your skills driving those narrow roads.

God yes, in fact I failed my first test because of our damn narrow residential roads in London with parked cars on either side trying to let another car pass! Our side roads can barely fit one car yet they are two way roads with parked cars on either side. Working out how to find passing places in residential roads is the thing I find hardest here, and then the huge multi lane roundabouts which can need a degree in geometry to work out in real time. I nearly grazed a car while stopping to allow another car to pass, otherwise I would have passed.

The UK driving test makes the American one look like winning a 400pp race in a Ferrari Italia from what I've been told.

 

[BrodieBoi94]

God yes, in fact I failed my first test because of our damn narrow residential roads in London with parked cars on either side trying to let another car pass! Our side roads can barely fit one car yet they are two way roads with parked cars on either side. Working out how to find passing places in residential roads is the thing I find hardest here, and then the huge multi lane roundabouts which can need a degree in geometry to work out in real time. I nearly grazed a car while stopping to allow another car to pass, otherwise I would have passed.

The UK driving test makes the American one look like winning a 400pp race in a Ferrari Italia from what I've been told.

Wow.

Sounds like a recipe for road rage.

You have been told right. In the states it is extremely easy to pass a standard license test.
They made me pull out of the facility parking lot onto a public road, make a right; right; stop; left; u-turn; right; right; left; and another left back into the parking lot.
So easy I rememberthe exact route.

But what makes it bad is the others you drive with who are soo inexperienced.
They'll do something wrong and get mad at you. Becomes habitual eventually...
There's a summary of what to expect here if u ever visit.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

Wow.
You have been told right. In the states it is extremely easy to pass a standard license test.
They made me pull out of the facility parking lot onto a public road, make a right; right; stop; left; u-turn; right; right; left; and another left back into the parking lot.
So easy I rememberthe exact route.

WTF. I almost spat out my drink! Are you frigging serious? Wow I am speechless. My test here is 45 minutes
on the toughest routes the instructor knows with an extensive clipboard of categories to pass.

That is seriously a standard American driving test? I need to move to the US.
How is that even allowed? I guess cars are so essential to American life even a one armed blind yokel needs to be able to pass. It takes about 30-50 hours driving to be ready for a UK test. The US one sounds like you can pass after 1 lesson,
especially in an Automatic.

It makes me laugh that even 75 year old ladies here all drive manual and know clutch control while the average American man in his 20's cruises along in automatic with no clue how to shift.

 

[BrodieBoi94]

WTF. I almost spat out my drink! Are you frigging serious? Wow I am speechless. My test here is 45 minutes
on the toughest routes the instructor knows with an extensive clipboard of categories to pass.

That is seriously a standard American driving test? I need to move to the US.
How is that even allowed? I guess cars are so essential to American life even a one armed blind yokel needs to be able to pass. It takes about 30-50 hours driving to be ready for a UK test. The US one sounds like you can pass after 1 lesson,
especially in an Automatic.

It makes me laugh that even 75 year old ladies here all drive manual and know clutch control while the average American man in his 20's cruises along in automatic with no clue how to shift.

Haha. The test itself is easy.

They do require you to have completed 25 hours behind the wheel during daytime and an additional 15 at night wich has to be signed off by a parent or an adult who was with you.

At 16 u have to have held a learner's permit for 6 months if im not mistaken to get a license.

Bottom line drive on the roads and you'll see how terrible people drive. I feel that theyre more douche bags than inexperienced sometimes tho.

 

[watermelon punch]

That's just if you get your license before 18.
I got my license as an adult (15 years ago). I learned to drive in 8 hours and took the driving test & passed the next day.
That said, I got a perfect score on the written test, can still recite things out of the manual about driving laws, and I've never had a moving violation.

I'm kind of stinky at racing in Gran Turismo. But I enjoy it a lot.
I particularly enjoy the fact that I can't get killed or injured on the tracks in GT6.

 

[Johnnypenso]

That's just if you get your license before 18.
I got my license as an adult (15 years ago). I learned to drive in 8 hours and took the driving test & passed the next day.
That said, I got a perfect score on the written test, can still recite things out of the manual about driving laws, and I've never had a moving violation.

I'm kind of stinky at racing in Gran Turismo. But I enjoy it a lot.
I particularly enjoy the fact that I can't get killed or injured on the tracks in GT6.

Well, well, well, look what the cat dragged in

 

[BrodieBoi94]

That's just if you get your license before 18.
I got my license as an adult (15 years ago). I learned to drive in 8 hours and took the driving test & passed the next day.
That said, I got a perfect score on the written test, can still recite things out of the manual about driving laws, and I've never had a moving violation.

I'm kind of stinky at racing in Gran Turismo. But I enjoy it a lot.
I particularly enjoy the fact that I can't get killed or injured on the tracks in GT6.

I got my license a couple years ago, and had some unnauthorized experience prior. lol

It was only when I began driving on a regular basis that I learned not to base my real world skills off of GT/SIMS in general.

I'm an okay driver in GT (Little rusty), but an excellent driver in real world conditions. But they don't really go hand in hand, one means to be extreme while the other is mild and can be extreme sometimes (road rage )

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

No game can replace your 1st time out in a manual car driving on a busy traffic, then do parallel parking, round about or changing lanes on a highway. Spatial awareness is one thing that no virtual experience can replace, as in real life, it's a whole new ball game. Driving on tight roads with parked cars on each side with your mirror inches away from cars on both side or turning your car on a very tight space also needs practice/experience.

 

[Alex Ojideagu]

Driving on tight roads with parked cars on each side with your mirror inches away from cars on both side or turning your car on a very tight space also needs practice/experience.

Yes, that's exactly what failed my driving test in London! Got too close to a car when stopping to let another pass in a tight narrow road with cars either side. I would have passed otherwise. Silly error. I should have passed first time.

 

[Connoissuer]

I honestly think that the U.S. holds some of the worst drivers in the world.

 

[watermelon punch]

I honestly think that the U.S. holds some of the worst drivers in the world.

I dunno... Mexico seemed pretty scary to me. That they needed to install speed bumps at intersections with traffic lights...
But I think the US may have at least a large share of the market in general selfish jerksomeness on the roads. hahaha.

 

[Connoissuer]

I live in NJ and its common to see someone in the far left lane(express lane) to cut across all other lanes just to make an exit that they were supposed to be prepared for a mile back (It was done on Route 1&9). Its like a mini-Russia over here. I've seen at least 10 people each year miss their exit and literally put their car in reverse or turn the car around in the runoff area to get the exit. Good ol' New Jersey.

 

[watermelon punch]

It's all those jug handles in Jersey - they drive people a little frantic I think. lol

 

[Connoissuer]

I mean if you can navigate Route 22 you can navigate anything.

 

[bilao]

It saved me 2 or 3 times in real life when driving with rain and the car start to do a drift. I think gt6 does a good job helping our muscle memory and turn that movement into a normal reflex. Sorry about my rusty english....

 

[OneShoe50]

I think the two are so different experiences, from all the comments here you can't say bad at a video game equals bad in a car. Just don't try to drive a car like you drive in GT6, no "Retry" option in a real car. And video games are made for fun!

 

[listerstorm2009]

I can't say that much because I've always used a gamepad but that's a completely different thing.
And a very important thing:
In real life a car is a loaded gun, at any moment anything can go wrong and people can get hurt.
In the game, IMO, i don't care much if I go out of track or hit other cars, I play just for the fun of it.
Finally I don't believe sucking at GT6 will make you a bad driver. I've been playing GT in general for 3 years, got the driver's license 1 year ago and have a safe driving. And I'm not a player that strives for that millisecond, I simply play it.

 

[eran0004]

Ok I have this steering wheel thing for GT6 and I I'm not good I most of the time crash into other cars or go off the track, wouldn't that mean I'm just not a good driver?

If you fail at theoretical aspects (finding the racing line, knowing when to brake, knowing when to shift etc.) in a simulator you'd probably fail at them in real life too, because they are more or less the same.

If you fail at practical aspects (car control, speed & distance judgement, interpretation of force feedback) it doesn't say much about your real life abilities, because it's very different from reality.

 

[DGXR]

Normal people aren't good at something without practice. Seat time means everything.

The answer to your question is no. Just because you aren't good at a video game doesn't mean you won't be good at real driving. Just do it the right way, get your permit, practice, be considerate and respectful of others, and enjoy it. Also remember we are all sharing the roads, we all own the roads through our tax money. So let's try to get along.

And keep in mind that Sacramento has more idiot drivers than the average metropolis. Ask me how I know.

 

[FSportIS]

I agree with a lot of people saying on here.

I have a clean driving records in almost 10 years on public road and a 1-2 years with autocrossing/track experience including driving on Willow Springs, Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca where I push my cars all the way to the limit. Alright, enough with my background. I only discover GT6 recently and when I first started out GT6, I am way slower than many many folks on here. My problem isn't crashing like crazy in the game, it is rather UNDER-DRIVING the car hence slower than most folks.

When I start racing with real people online, I learn that these folks, a lot of time, driving the car at the very edge of the limit or even over-driving it. I have been actually both shocked and amazed by how these fast people drive in GT6 because I do not dare driving like that in real life. Watching the top 10 re-plays, these guys drive perfectly at the very limit throughout the entire lap. I keep wondering, though, can they be that good too in the real car on the real track? Who knows?

Sorry to say this to GT fans that GT6 is not quite realistic. Based on my actual driving experience on Willows Springs, and Laguna Seca in real life vs. in game. I found the following similarities and differences between real life and GT6:
Similarity:
1. The layout and elevation changes is very realistic. I'm very amazed by this.
2. Braking point is very similar.
Differences (so so many):
1. The available traction in many cars (even with stock tires) in GT6 is too much. Technically, the g-force in many tire models are unrealistically high. In another words, many cars in GT6 drive A LOT BETTER than the real life ones. A lot of times, I can corner a lot faster with many cars than I can with my actual ones. Simply put, the cars in game have way higher limit than a comparable cars in real life.
2. Where is the brake fade??? In game, brake works perfectly regardless of how long you drive or how aggressively you brake. You can brake late every lap for infinitely many laps. In real life, brake system, no matter how good, will start to fade if you heat it up passing its temp limit. We need cooling in real life but not in game.
3. The tire models in game is very inaccurate. My high performance summer tires (Hankook V12, Michelin Pilot Super Sports etc) in real life performs at the level somewhere in between comfort medium and comfort hard in game. Semi-slick tires perform like sport hard. I have not driven on racing slick tires in real life yet but in game, anything beyond sport hard are unrealistically grippy and offer too much traction. Personally, I think nothing in real life can or ever will match racing medium and racing soft in game because they are God-like where you can corner in a speed that is beyond physics.
4. I find a lot of modding options in game unrealistic as well. From my experience, ride height, camber...give wrong effect. 0 camber in game seems to be the best, at least, for my driving style in game which doesn't agree with performance alignment outside. Higher front than rear in game makes cars drive better by reducing understeering which seems strange.
5. Lack of G-force.
6. Lack of hearing feedback from engine, and exhaust sound. The sound in real engine and exhaust vary a lot in different gears throughout different RPM but in game, it sounds the same in almost all range.
7. Lack of sense of speed and depth of field. This is the biggest challenge I find driving cars in GT6. This makes me either braking too early or too late. I cannot feel it the way I feel in my actual car.
8. Lack of sense of danger.
9. The gas, the brake, the steering wheel gives the same feedback no matter what cars I choose in game. In reality, different cars give you totally different feedback to your feet and hands.
10. Sorry to say this too but GT6 virtual drivers, majority that I see online, are too aggressive, just way too aggressive to the point of being dangerous. Driving like you stole it is an understatement because it is more like driving like you kill yourself.
11. It cost a lot more to track outside than in game. tires: 1000+, brake pads: 200+, helmet: 200+, gas: 60, oil change: 65, track admission: 150 each event etc vs. game $40 dollars + $200 wheel where you can use many years.
12. Racing in GT6 environment seems to have no rule whatover. It is like whoever finish first wins. In real life, you have a lot and a lot of regulations. If you race the way you do in GT6, you will likely get kicked out and banned from the track in no time lol.

Alright, enough for all the long-winded discussion above, the bottom line is GT6 is still a game. It is very good to get a sense of track layout and braking points. It is also good that you can test and over-drive car without injuring anyone. I actually improve my driving skills because I am able to get some virtual seat time and do something that I don't dare doing in real life as well as be able to drive on many tracks that I haven't done such as Nurburgring

Anyways, skill in GT6 is virtual racer skill and it is completely different than skill in actual driving/racing.

 

[Cowboy]

Ok I have this steering wheel thing for GT6 and I I'm not good I most of the time crash into other cars or go off the track, wouldn't that mean I'm just not a good driver?

I got a wheel recently too and I also suck when I use it. All i can say is that it takes is a lot of practice and getting the feel of the wheel. Try doing basic stuff when driving with the wheel first, then go on to more advanced stuff. Hopefully this helps

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I agree with a lot of people saying on here.

I have a clean driving records in almost 10 years on public road and a 1-2 years with autocrossing/track experience including driving on Willow Springs, Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca where I push my cars all the way to the limit. Alright, enough with my background. I only discover GT6 recently and when I first started out GT6, I am way slower than many many folks on here. My problem isn't crashing like crazy in the game, it is rather UNDER-DRIVING the car hence slower than most folks.

When I start racing with real people online, I learn that these folks, a lot of time, driving the car at the very edge of the limit or even over-driving it. I have been actually both shocked and amazed by how these fast people drive in GT6 because I do not dare driving like that in real life. Watching the top 10 re-plays, these guys drive perfectly at the very limit throughout the entire lap. I keep wondering, though, can they be that good too in the real car on the real track? Who knows?

Sorry to say this to GT fans that GT6 is not quite realistic. Based on my actual driving experience on Willows Springs, and Laguna Seca in real life vs. in game. I found the following similarities and differences between real life and GT6:
Similarity:
1. The layout and elevation changes is very realistic. I'm very amazed by this.
2. Braking point is very similar.
Differences (so so many):
1. The available traction in many cars (even with stock tires) in GT6 is too much. Technically, the g-force in many tire models are unrealistically high. In another words, many cars in GT6 drive A LOT BETTER than the real life ones. A lot of times, I can corner a lot faster with many cars than I can with my actual ones. Simply put, the cars in game have way higher limit than a comparable cars in real life.
2. Where is the brake fade??? In game, brake works perfectly regardless of how long you drive or how aggressively you brake. You can brake late every lap for infinitely many laps. In real life, brake system, no matter how good, will start to fade if you heat it up passing its temp limit. We need cooling in real life but not in game.
3. The tire models in game is very inaccurate. My high performance summer tires (Hankook V12, Michelin Pilot Super Sports etc) in real life performs at the level somewhere in between comfort medium and comfort hard in game. Semi-slick tires perform like sport hard. I have not driven on racing slick tires in real life yet but in game, anything beyond sport hard are unrealistically grippy and offer too much traction. Personally, I think nothing in real life can or ever will match racing medium and racing soft in game because they are God-like where you can corner in a speed that is beyond physics.
4. I find a lot of modding options in game unrealistic as well. From my experience, ride height, camber...give wrong effect. 0 camber in game seems to be the best, at least, for my driving style in game which doesn't agree with performance alignment outside. Higher front than rear in game makes cars drive better by reducing understeering which seems strange.
5. Lack of G-force.
6. Lack of hearing feedback from engine, and exhaust sound. The sound in real engine and exhaust vary a lot in different gears throughout different RPM but in game, it sounds the same in almost all range.
7. Lack of sense of speed and depth of field. This is the biggest challenge I find driving cars in GT6. This makes me either braking too early or too late. I cannot feel it the way I feel in my actual car.
8. Lack of sense of danger.
9. The gas, the brake, the steering wheel gives the same feedback no matter what cars I choose in game. In reality, different cars give you totally different feedback to your feet and hands.
10. Sorry to say this too but GT6 virtual drivers, majority that I see online, are too aggressive, just way too aggressive to the point of being dangerous. Driving like you stole it is an understatement because it is more like driving like you kill yourself.
11. It cost a lot more to track outside than in game. tires: 1000+, brake pads: 200+, helmet: 200+, gas: 60, oil change: 65, track admission: 150 each event etc vs. game $40 dollars + $200 wheel where you can use many years.
12. Racing in GT6 environment seems to have no rule whatover. It is like whoever finish first wins. In real life, you have a lot and a lot of regulations. If you race the way you do in GT6, you will likely get kicked out and banned from the track in no time lol.

Alright, enough for all the long-winded discussion above, the bottom line is GT6 is still a game. It is very good to get a sense of track layout and braking points. It is also good that you can test and over-drive car without injuring anyone. I actually improve my driving skills because I am able to get some virtual seat time and do something that I don't dare doing in real life as well as be able to drive on many tracks that I haven't done such as Nurburgring

Anyways, skill in GT6 is virtual racer skill and it is completely different than skill in actual driving/racing.

I have done several replica cars with real life Laguna Seca lap as reference ( RX8, Focus ST, Camaro Z/28, Audi R8 GT etc ) if you are interested, try some of them. Most are on comfort tires ( hard to soft ), my recent one is Lotus Elise S1 ( Tsukuba lap record ) on comfort medium and Endless Evo X Super Taikyu ST2 ( Sports Soft Suzuka Lap, real life Advan racing slick )

 

[Slash]

I have done several replica cars with real life Laguna Seca lap as reference ( RX8, Focus ST, Camaro Z/28, Audi R8 GT etc ) if you are interested, try some of them. Most are on comfort tires ( hard to soft ), my recent one is Lotus Elise S1 ( Tsukuba lap record ) on comfort medium and Endless Evo X Super Taikyu ST2 ( Sports Soft Suzuka Lap, real life Advan racing slick )

Is there a thread you don't talk about your replicas? Just sayin'. Seems like you leap at every chance you get.