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I'd LOVE to race more, but until iracing gets more members or more Aussies start playing, iracing will limit me.

I hope the above explains why I can't race more (although I wish I could). This is why you heard me "rant" a few weeks back about the lack of drivers.


Ok, now on the topic of "how to improve safety". What I am trying to point out is that the "collective brain power" of the iracing team, if it wasn't used to think of new tracks/cars, they could sit down for a few weeks, go through say all the "protest" records they have received, talk to some of the top players like Huttu or someone, and brain storm some ideas. Now based on probability and the skill level of these guys, I have NO DOUBT that something could be improved. Do you agree?

I always see promotions, new cars, new tracks, but never seen anything on improving the quality of racing, or SR calculations etc. However, I have only been a member for a few months so perhaps someone who has joined 2 - 3 years ago can point out the last time something with safety was changed?

I live in Japan, so I'm only an hour or two off of you and I have zero problems finding races, even when it's mid day here and everyone else is asleep. MX5 Cup, InRacingNews Challenge, etc, etc. I'm only naming the lower class series because you are still D license right? Even if the SOF is too high for you to be competing for a victory you should still race. It's fun and more challenging that way.

As far as how things should change, you need to make specific suggestions in the forums. Getting Greger Huttu involved won't do anything because he only participates in a few open races. You need to come up with a well thought out plan of attack and present it.

In the mean time though, just race! Don't worry about the time or the SOF just run some races and have fun. If you get crashed out, just suck it up and move on to the next race. But over time you will learn better the tell-tale signs of a poor/aggressive driver and learn how to avoid them.
 
I live in Japan, so I'm only an hour or two off of you and I have zero problems finding races, even when it's mid day here and everyone else is asleep. MX5 Cup, InRacingNews Challenge, etc, etc. I'm only naming the lower class series because you are still D license right? Even if the SOF is too high for you to be competing for a victory you should still race. It's fun and more challenging that way.

As far as how things should change, you need to make specific suggestions in the forums. Getting Greger Huttu involved won't do anything because he only participates in a few open races. You need to come up with a well thought out plan of attack and present it.

In the mean time though, just race! Don't worry about the time or the SOF just run some races and have fun. If you get crashed out, just suck it up and move on to the next race. But over time you will learn better the tell-tale signs of a poor/aggressive driver and learn how to avoid them.

I don't want to race in the MX5 cup. This is the rookie series. You get out of it, I don't want to go back in.

InRacingNews Challange, go have a look at 7:3GMT and 9:30GMT on weeknights. i am looking right now and I can tell you that the races were all unofficial.

For all the iracers here superbike, did you really expect me not to have dumped all the race info into a spreadsheet and analyse which one I can race in? ;)

Its not about license, I can easily scale up or down to the series I want to race, I have looked all over and its a choice between Skip, HPD or V8. I have never moved myself up from D class because D class gives me an edge in the Skip series with the free tow. :) This is a tactical move on my behalf.

As for changes, IF iracing is one of those companies that only makes changes because users suggest them, then iracing sucks. I don't get paid to do this, they do, matter a fact, I am paying a sub for this every year expecting improvements to all aspects of the game and not just ways for me to pay more money for more tracks. Of course, I appreciate all the new cars and tracks! :)

I want to race in a SOF that is at my level, I don't want to race in something higher, I don't want to race i something that is lower. The best competition is when everyone is at my skill level. This is where its most intense and this one of the reasons why we have SOF in the first place. If your notion of racing at a higher level is more challenging and hence more fun, let's just get rid of SOF and do snake split system like they did for the Premier Skip Barber series, why didn't they do this? Because majority of the drivers hate it.

I know the above seems demanding, but I am paying for a premium product, I want the best. But when I get left with 3 series to choose from? Its quite annoying....

I hate the Skip :(

Bring on the MP4 pleaseeeeeeeee
 
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Start in the pits until you qualify on the front row, (I'm assuming you just bought this and are in rookie races)

Noob question: what's the benefit of an official race and how can I find one?

No I'm a class C, I was racing Indy at Barber, the guy who took me out was Class B and came in hot into the first corner and slid up taking me out of the race. I think if another car gets into you, it shouldn't give me 4x for contact or effect my ratings! People need to be patient!! I don't think anyone should have to start in the pits, IMO. I guess I wasted over $100 in content and $800 on a pc just for iracing! :(
 
Well, as the old American saying goes, "want in one hand and s**t in the other, see which fills up faster"

I think you are being a little too demanding here. You need to adapt to the particular situation you are in and work from there.

Plenty of A-class drivers run the MX5 Cup because they like the car, who cares if it's a rookie series or not?

iRacing depends on it's users to make them aware of the problems that they don't know about. Most of the features you have in the game today were suggested by iRacers in the past.

You are the reason you are left with only three series to choose from, not iRacing. It's an American product and very America-centric as far as scheduling goes. Most of the racers are American, so you have to adapt your schedule to iRacing, not the other way around.
 
No I'm a class C, I was racing Indy at Barber, the guy who took me out was Class B and came in hot into the first corner and slid up taking me out of the race. I think if another car gets into you, it shouldn't give me 4x for contact or effect my ratings! People need to be patient!! I don't think anyone should have to start in the pits, IMO. I guess I wasted over $100 in content and $800 on a pc just for iracing! :(

Stop being so dramatic over a couple bad races. Everyone has bad races, just keep at it, it gets better, and then gets worse, and then gets better. Even the World Championship and Pro Series drivers make dumb mistakes, you just have to deal with it as part of racing.
 
runfast1
No I'm a class C, I was racing Indy at Barber, the guy who took me out was Class B and came in hot into the first corner and slid up taking me out of the race. I think if another car gets into you, it shouldn't give me 4x for contact or effect my ratings! People need to be patient!! I don't think anyone should have to start in the pits, IMO. I guess I wasted over $100 in content and $800 on a pc just for iracing! :(

I don't see it as a race to get to class A, but yes I do understand but that's apart of racing. you'll come across The clean and the dirty. iracing is a no fault system, which IMO is great, so you don't end up with people who find out how to exploit faults

is there a way to send messages to friends like pm on here?
 
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I want to race in a SOF that is at my level, I don't want to race in something higher, I don't want to race i something that is lower. The best competition is when everyone is at my skill level. This is where its most intense and this one of the reasons why we have SOF in the first place. If your notion of racing at a higher level is more challenging and hence more fun, let's just get rid of SOF and do snake split system like they did for the Premier Skip Barber series, why didn't they do this? Because majority of the drivers hate it.

Snake split is shocking... Your basically gifting the highest irated driver the win. If you have 2-3 splits that means the first split has Car #1 and car 2 is actually car #4. All this means is that the races are not close at all and boring for all drivers involved. This is why most drivers hate it.

Normal SOF system is much better.
 
@ Mad

You are right. Not many Aus/NZ showed up but they are not the only ones. All in all there were 23 racers at the beginning instead of 32 qualified guys.
 
Of course I agree that the best competition is when everyone is somewhere near your current iRating, however I won't skip a race just because the other drivers are out of my league. I'd rather race people that are much faster than me than not race at all.
 
Roush fan & superbike thanks for your input and advice. I was pissed off and I don't think clearly when **** happens! Lol.
 
What is the defenition of aggresive driving? I think I may fall in that catageory for some. I will ride right up on your bumper. I will look inside at the corners, but back back out last second. I generally will do anything I can to get you all shook up and out of shape without contact. To me though thats part of racing. Getting in your head. Turning up the heat. Putting the pressure on the other driver. Im trying to get you loose and make a mistake. Is that not good racing? Just trying to decide if I should reconsider my driving style. I like it though its very much an adrenaline rush. I just love when I know I made that guy miss his braking point because of the pressure I put on him. Agressive driver?
 
I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE they NEED to put the Legends races in D class!!! Every single time people crash! Its SO ANNOYING and i cant RANK UP! :grumpy:
 
^^^^ That is what I would call racing. Far better than just trying to barge past and probably ruining yours and your opponents race. If I am clearly faster I will make sure the person in front of me knows I am there by being large in their mirror down the straight and then having a sneaky look down the inside on every corner even if I am not going to make an overtake.

Edited to say this is a reply to Fatkrakr...
 
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What is the defenition of aggresive driving? I think I may fall in that catageory for some. I will ride right up on your bumper. I will look inside at the corners, but back back out last second. I generally will do anything I can to get you all shook up and out of shape without contact. To me though thats part of racing. Getting in your head. Turning up the heat. Putting the pressure on the other driver. Im trying to get you loose and make a mistake. Is that not good racing? Just trying to decide if I should reconsider my driving style. I like it though its very much an adrenaline rush. I just love when I know I made that guy miss his braking point because of the pressure I put on him. Agressive driver?

That's not necessarily aggressive. Not in the real world at least. That's actually the least aggressive way of approaching passing someone. It's a tactic I've used in racing for many years, and have implemented it into iRacing and it seems to work just as effectively.
 
What is the defenition of aggresive driving? I think I may fall in that catageory for some. I will ride right up on your bumper. I will look inside at the corners, but back back out last second. I generally will do anything I can to get you all shook up and out of shape without contact. To me though thats part of racing. Getting in your head. Turning up the heat. Putting the pressure on the other driver. Im trying to get you loose and make a mistake. Is that not good racing? Just trying to decide if I should reconsider my driving style. I like it though its very much an adrenaline rush. I just love when I know I made that guy miss his braking point because of the pressure I put on him. Agressive driver?

I would call agressive the kind of driver who will dive bomb you as soon as he gets close to you without knowing your line trough a corner, the driver that will mistake a late apex with an openingor an invitation to dive in, this kind of driver is different from the average dumbass because he won't crash into you but will put you in an ugly situation where you'll most likely have to go off to avoid contact when he never had any real corner rights.
 
I can't believe I spent all of this money, and every race I get wrecked on the first lap in the first turn!!! :grumpy: I'm having doubts about my membership renewal and wish I could get refunded for all the cars and tracks I have purchased already, well over $100, and I could get wrecked for free in GT5. I expected better racing out of drivers who pay for this service. I am really ****ing pissed off!!

Hang in there runfast. Ive been on a week(only running oval) and the racing gets way better the higher your licence gets. "Rookie" racers were terrible for me, seemed like someone wrecked every lap. I just got my class C licence and the racing now is very clean.
 
Please, for the love of all that is good, stop rear ending me at the chicane on lap one at Road Atlanta. I'm not even braking early!

/rant.


Someone can ride my bumper all race if they want to and it won't affect me in the slightest since I have the virtual mirror off and can't see directly behind me in the skip. Taking a peak at the inside, on the other hand, now that can shake me up since It's hard to tell if I'm going to hit them when I turn in. Those kind of pressure tactics are completely fair and make for fun racing.
 
No I'm a class C, I was racing Indy at Barber, the guy who took me out was Class B and came in hot into the first corner and slid up taking me out of the race. I think if another car gets into you, it shouldn't give me 4x for contact or effect my ratings! People need to be patient!! I don't think anyone should have to start in the pits, IMO. I guess I wasted over $100 in content and $800 on a pc just for iracing! :(

You made a great investment just try to hang in there. If you're trying to do Indy racing in the Fixed series keep in mind what Jav said a few weeks ago (Indy @ Road America Fixed). The fixed races are a 'sprint' so they might be quite crazy in the opening few laps. Try some longer races. Those tend to be a little more clean

You might also want to try studying your laps in iSpeed Lap Analyzer tool (see this guide for reference). I bet on that corner you got hit you might taking it slower than others. iSpeed will tell you exactly whats going on (braking too early, braking too late, not enough throttle, etc) and can help you get up to speed so that the bad guys cant catch your car in the rear.

Looking at my iSpeed laps at Indy F @ Barber I can see I am losing speed at Split 3 (comparing my 1.15 to 1.14 lap). I'm not giving it enough brakes going into the turn and not enough throttle. I don't have time to practice much this weekend tho so might pass on running that track. I would've liked to hit 1.13s at least before racing
 
high SOF = disgusting. cant believe it. Got put into a high SOF for whatever reason, #14 car, and just getting hit right and centre. massively aggro. Got putting going wide in turn 1 and rejoining from the grass without caring that theres no room. Just wow...

also following people into tight corners with no gap.

poor drivers in low SOF, poor drivers in high SOF..this game really needs to STOP focusing on cars and tracks for just one season and concentrate and come up with a better and improved way to make driving more fun and safe.

Too much focus on making $$$.

what was the SOF of that race?
 
Okay awesome I finally won my 1st race!!! :dopey:

I'm pretty quick on these Ovals. I've always found it quite easy to ramp up and become competitive. I always assumed this the same for everyone else but perhaps I actually got a little talent over here....

I started 8th position (I did Qualify but didnt get a chance to work on my times somemore). I gradually worked my way up the field. I made sure I kept an eye on the guy in front of me while drafting and I had a plan to evade to the top if they lost control. There was some wrecks here & there I had to dodge. Next thing I know I'm fighting with a dude for 2nd position and I overtake him. 1st position guy gets wrecked somehow and next thing I know I'm in 1st and I have a loonnng lead on the entire field it felt like. I just took it easy and cruised in for my win 👍

Gongrats on the win SBG! Way 2 go m8 👍

Quick question SGB....how are you like those SK Modifieds, and oval racing in general? Are the SK's fun to drive? Are they fast and easy? I'm doing all road at the moment, but am seriously considering venturing on over to the Oval side, because a C-class license is required enter official Indy Car Oval races.

What do you think of the SK's and will I like them?
 
Thanks for the reply guys was just wanting to make sure it wasnt consider bad tactics. Im glad because I really like the close tight racing.
 
My guess was maybe Swifty meant this race:
http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=5277080&custid=85094

That's the only race this week he didnt place high (or rather, didnt place 7th at least). I think he's having a good week. Maybe in one or two more races he can claim a victory


Gongrats on the win SBG! Way 2 go m8 👍

Quick question SGB....how are you like those SK Modifieds, and oval racing in general? Are the SK's fun to drive? Are they fast and easy? I'm doing all road at the moment, but am seriously considering venturing on over to the Oval side, because a C-class license is required enter official Indy Car Oval races.

What do you think of the SK's and will I like them?

Thanks! I love doing the Oval races because they tend to stay tight with back-to-back racing. I enjoy the Sk Mod because it's still on the OTM so it's great fun sliding around the corners. I'm probably going to be crushed when it gets changed to the NTM because it's probably the most fun car to drive for me overall. I like driving it with a loose set. So it is very challenging keeping the car on the road. I tweaked a setup I got from Raymond on the forums

Yeah I'm eventually gunning for Indy Ovals but I plan to take my time to make sure I've mastered Class D 1st before I dive in. But I did some ghost racing in the Indy car and was putting up pretty good times. So I think I'll be fine.
 
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My guess was maybe Swifty meant this race:
http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=5277080&custid=85094

That's the only race this week he didnt place high (or rather, didnt place 7th at least). I think he's having a good week. Maybe in one or two more races he can claim a victory

He also had 19 incidents. I have never seen someone have 19 incidents in such a short race that could all be blamed on someone else, so he was having his own problems this race as well, not just a couple contacts due to other drivers.

Like I said, I think Swifty is spoiling himself with time trials. They are great for competition and great for learning optimal racing lines, but I think they can also give you the false sense of security that the optimal line will always be available. This is why open practices are such a valuable tool, you can go learn racecraft with others on the track without worrying about your SR and iR.
 
Just got my Oval license above 3.00 in class D. Next season I too can run the fixed Indy ovals!

Now to get my Road back above 2.0, I've neglected it this season and did one rookie race to show my friend, well 17 incidents later I dropped below the 2.0 C and now face relegation! :(.

I want to stay in the C class as I'm tempted to run some V8 Supercars next season, mainly because the big race is on a Sunday evening in Europe and with it being around 19.00 (not looked at it after the clock change) it's a nice time to race for me.
 
Sweet hopefully quite a few of us will be trying out Indy Ovals Fixed next season then :dopey:

Yeah I've been thinking bout trying out the V8 supercars as well. Nothing serious but try to do at least 1 or 2 races. I'm actually a fan of the real life series. The races are broadcast here in the US on SPEED network
 
I toyed around with the Indy ovals fixed when it was at Indy a couple weeks ago, ran 5 or 6 races and had a lot of fun. I'll absolutely be participating as much as I can next season.

Hopefully I'll get to race with some of you in the bottom (or next to bottom) split. :)
 
My guess was maybe Swifty meant this race:
http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=5277080&custid=85094

That's the only race this week he didnt place high (or rather, didnt place 7th at least). I think he's having a good week. Maybe in one or two more races he can claim a victory

Yeap, that was the one bad one in the high SOF race.

I mean to sum this week up quickly:

1st race, write off, came 7th, I spun off the track when I was coming in 2nd overlapping a car and there was a misunderstanding between us. Have you ever walked down a road and you have a guy coming the same direction and you both go left, both go right etc, I did that with a car and I ended up on the grass. He was trying to let me pass but we both went the same direction twice.

2nd race, came 2nd I believe.

3rd race, the one above mentioned which I will go further in detail.

4th race, 2nd by less than a second.

After four races I achieved my goal this week to get +100 irating so I decided to finish there. I could have gone another race but finishing 2nd was good enough and I like finishing on a high!

by the way, again, grats on the win!

He also had 19 incidents. I have never seen someone have 19 incidents in such a short race that could all be blamed on someone else, so he was having his own problems this race as well, not just a couple contacts due to other drivers.

Like I said, I think Swifty is spoiling himself with time trials. They are great for competition and great for learning optimal racing lines, but I think they can also give you the false sense of security that the optimal line will always be available. This is why open practices are such a valuable tool, you can go learn racecraft with others on the track without worrying about your SR and iR.

Here AGAIN, you have proven that you just have no idea again...

1. Anyone who has raced at Road Atlanta will know that 1x on this track is very easy to get, especially if your pushing fast times. On that track, its actually quite easy to do 2x PER lap (of even 3x per lap if you count the last corner) if you cut corners here and there and not getting a slow down penalty, it actually works to benefit you. (I almost won a race by getting a 1x in a corner and increasing my exit speed).

2. You weren't there, how would you know?

3. Turn 1, I got a 4x from a guy coming off the grass and going into my side. Turn 2 I got another 4x from a rear end. Massively aggro drivers in a very tight space, had like 4 people going into a turn together. Insane from top drivers. I had to pit to fix my car and I was well behind

4. Trying to catch back up I did purposely get a few 1x to cut some corners (tactical) as I don't want to go past D Class anyway. Racing in the Skip, D Class gives you an advantage with free tow. I have no current intention to race in any other series.

5. In the higher SOF, I managed to get to 4th actually from a full lap down (I am car #14 remember). However, not learning from experience, I pushed too hard and I spun out. A stayed still of course, a few cars drove past however I knew a hit was coming up since I was parked on top of a hill after turn 1 (quite hard to see and to slow down coming into it) and someone hit me for another 4x, big contact or something.


Why do you keep bugging me about time trails? YOU DONT READ MY POSTS. I told you, because of work/life I can only do time trails as I can do them anytime as opposed to racing at certain times A and B. my god.....do you talk to people without listening to? Also, I am currently no.1 and I got a good feeling of winning the time trail championships. You haven't won any championship in iracing so you don't know how it feels to be in contention of it and to keep the others behind you.
 
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I tried doing time trials, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

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