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well, if i see some guys drive, i believe it! :crazy: For me they may make the SR more harder in penalising then it is today. Atleast if they got rid of those inconsistent "off track"s. some guys wreck the entire field 4 races in a row whitout action against there license or SR.
 
You know what, I think I remember how people are getting such high gains. It seems like I remember in road that when you pass 3.00 it takes you passed 3.50 plus whatever you got that race. It's just been so long that I have actually gotten out of a class that I don't remember exactly how it works. I haven't raced since I think January. Iracing is a blast though, I can't believe I took such a big break from it.

You got it! Your SR gets a bump when you pass a whole number (1.0, 2.0, 3.0. etc) of ~0.4 points.
 
Somehow I'm not surprised to read about a 0.00SR account, I know I've seen one at R 0.14 once. Some people simply never get the SR system and just race the Nvidia Cup like they would on a public GT5 lobby, without ever realizing what all those green numbers popping up all the time actually mean.
They probably think they are "style points".
 
I could believe it, especially the oval side.. everyone thinks they're Dale Earnhardt.. Until it back fires.
 
Once upon a time there was a game called Destruction Derby 2. I played it and had alot of fun. There was a gamemode were u actually did get "style points"

Here is the video. Don't let it fool you its not Iracing in some rookie league. It really is DB2! Why can't they make games like this anymore? You know for the kids 💡

 
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bummer about the other pilot taking you out! kudos to you for keeping your cool!

What you need to do is learn from his mistakes.

there are a few things you can do in no particular order of importance (some veterans will hopefully chime in to help out with more suggestions):
1. Put the pilot on your "studied" list so you know when he is online.
2. Find the "danger paint" (a skin for his car to warn you) thread at Iracing - download the danger paints and follow the directions in the thread to mark the pilots car. This way you if you forget his name you will see his car marked in bold, bright colors warning you to stay clear.
3. protest his moves each and every time he takes you out. iRacing admits that they only penalize "intent" and not stupid moves, but an email from Nim that he is being protested might or might not cause him to driver better.
4. Increase your wreck avoidance game.
5. send him a friendly PM telling him to turn on his Spotter in-game so it can warn him if you are next to his car. And you can also ask him to turn on his voicecomms if you do no. 6 below.
6. If you have a microphone, turn on voicecomms and use it in-game. When you are passong him (or other cars) you can warn then with a quick comm such as, "Joe, I am on your right" or "Joe, passing inside on your left". make is brief and quick to give him position of your car relative to his car. of course, this will only work if he can voicecomms on to hear you.
etc
etc.

good luck! yeah, some pilots can be a PITA on the track. :crazy:

I tend to disagree with no.6. If I was actually racing closely with someone and they decide to tell me "Eric, I'm gonna pass on the inside," my thoughts will be "Uh, no." That's if we're closely matched. In-race communication really should be limited to apologies, "thanks yous", announcement that you're pitting (when near traffic) and telling people to go ahead and pass. A lot of times at Watkins Glen I've been racing down the backstraight towards the bus stop and the car behind is gaining on me, but not yet alongside. Instead of waiting until the last second to see who has the balls to take the corner, most times the car behind has told me "you've got it, go ahead."


@ ErikAndre71 - PM me if you're interested :)

@ bevo
Anyways, it's weird. The last 2 big gains i had was +55 and +46. First one was with 1 off track incident (Skip at Atlanta). Didn't qualify and passed a ton of cars to finish second. The next one was from a TT with no incidents. Although i did have +40 something with 1 spin and 3 off tracks. It's very random. I can't explain it. I've also seen it from other drivers; they have a few incidents and still have +30 and up gains out of nowhere. It's like you're predisposed to have those points - they're just waiting in the wings lol. Maybe it's after a certain amount of finished races? I don't know.

I can explain that for you. SR is calculated based on Corners Per Incident (CPI). And its actually an average CPI. iRacing only keeps track of your last X number of sessions where SR is affected. I don't know how many, but random high gains/losses result from the oldest session "falling off". If you had a string of really bad races where you had many incidents, then all your races after that were better, or totally clean, you would see a big change in your average once those bad races were no longer the sessions being counted.
 
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Just need to gain .11 SR and i'll have my A license, feels like it took forever to get to this point

You should have been there back when the fast track system wasn't around. You had to stay in each license class for an entire season. So it would have taken you at least a year to get to A.
 
I tend to disagree with no.6. If I was actually racing closely with someone and they decide to tell me "Eric, I'm gonna pass on the inside," my thoughts will be "Uh, no." That's if we're closely matched. In-race communication really should be limited to apologies, "thanks yous", announcement that you're pitting (when near traffic) and telling people to go ahead and pass. A lot of times at Watkins Glen I've been racing down the backstraight towards the bus stop and the car behind is gaining on me, but not yet alongside. Instead of waiting until the last second to see who has the balls to take the corner, most times the car behind has told me "you've got it, go ahead."

that is the first time I have ever heard of anyone in iRacing abusing the voicecomms. I feel sorry for you!
The voicecomms have been serving me extremely well in passing and being passed. I hear it being used by other pilots several times in each race. I do not use it all the time mind you since each case is different. And in this case it might come in very handy for a guy that keeps wrecking people as in the OP.
Never turn voicecomms off. If someone is abusing voicecomms put him on mute.
I feel sorry for your problem. good luck!!
 
I agree with Eric, I'm here to race and sometimes surprise is a nice way to overtake. If someone tell me they are going on the inside It's like asking for permission for a move they aren't sure about and if it wasn't to late I would surly close the door on the inside.

If every overtake was announced in my race I would have muted the guy. I'm on iRacing to race, not Sunday driving with permission asking to do overtakes. And before you call me a risky driver I have 4.99 in SR and I had it for two months now. I' don't race as often as everyone else, but I'm well prepared for every race I sign up to and when the green flag drops I race. And if I see the opportunity to overtake I surly will not announce it. Waste of my voice and waste of airtime for 90% of the guys in the room.
 
I don't like when people tell me they are going to pass me on the left or that king of communication.

In the Grand AM series there is this guy in division 5 I think. He is fast, he is good but what a prim-a-donna. :) He comes up from behind me to lap me, I always have my f3 key on, mapped to my button box, I see him coming up and he says to me, "Darren, I'm going to pass you on your left", I just keep racing, there are about 3 cars in front of me and we are on the same lap.

I just keep hitting the apex the best I can and I am racing pretty decent. This prim-a-donna can't pass me, I don't try to block him or anything, he is the faster car. He needs to learn how to pass but he doesn't even try. So then he tells me what I am doing is very dangerous, I ignore him again. So then he tells me it's in the rules that I must pull over and let him by. I catch one of the cars ahead of me and pass him.

Last I heard was this prim-a-donna telling the guy I just passed was he was going to pass him on the left. Biggest problem in all of iRacing, there are a lot of fast racers that don't know how to pass. A few nights ago at Suzuka I battled a guy for 6 or 7 laps, we were both on the same lap. He could catch me on the esses but once I got through them I gained distance on him every lap.

Then after about the 6th lap he nails me from behind, sending me right threw the esses, I get a warning that I cut the course, this guy can't pass me without hitting me. This goes on for 3 or 4 more laps. Then he hits my rear quarter panel and spins me off the track, giving me a black flag for damage. I catch him half a lap away and give him a taste of his own medicine. He started swearing at me big time, I asked him how he liked a taste of his own medicine. :) We were both done for the night.
 
When you are lapped you dont race the leader, you lift when its a limited time loss for you, and he will deal with your next competitor next. Do this cleverly and you gain time on the next car. Racing him like that when you are a lap down because "its your right" is just stupid, and no gain for anybody.
 
superbike81
You should have been there back when the fast track system wasn't around. You had to stay in each license class for an entire season. So it would have taken you at least a year to get to A.

its taken me 1 1/2 years to even get this close, even with fast tracking lol
 
I don't like when people tell me they are going to pass me on the left or that king of communication.

In the Grand AM series there is this guy in division 5 I think. He is fast, he is good but what a prim-a-donna. :) He comes up from behind me to lap me, I always have my f3 key on, mapped to my button box, I see him coming up and he says to me, "Darren, I'm going to pass you on your left", I just keep racing, there are about 3 cars in front of me and we are on the same lap.

I just keep hitting the apex the best I can and I am racing pretty decent. This prim-a-donna can't pass me, I don't try to block him or anything, he is the faster car. He needs to learn how to pass but he doesn't even try. So then he tells me what I am doing is very dangerous, I ignore him again. So then he tells me it's in the rules that I must pull over and let him by. I catch one of the cars ahead of me and pass him.

Last I heard was this prim-a-donna telling the guy I just passed was he was going to pass him on the left. Biggest problem in all of iRacing, there are a lot of fast racers that don't know how to pass. A few nights ago at Suzuka I battled a guy for 6 or 7 laps, we were both on the same lap. He could catch me on the esses but once I got through them I gained distance on him every lap.

Then after about the 6th lap he nails me from behind, sending me right threw the esses, I get a warning that I cut the course, this guy can't pass me without hitting me. This goes on for 3 or 4 more laps. Then he hits my rear quarter panel and spins me off the track, giving me a black flag for damage. I catch him half a lap away and give him a taste of his own medicine. He started swearing at me big time, I asked him how he liked a taste of his own medicine. :) We were both done for the night.

I hope he protested you for deliberate retaliation.

You need to learn some manners and grow the hell up.
 
The way I see it, drivers can't communicate with each other during a real race, so why should I use a mic? If you can't properly overtake and make a few good judgement calls, you shouldn't be racing in my opinion.
 
I don't like when people tell me they are going to pass me on the left or that king of communication.

In the Grand AM series there is this guy in division 5 I think. He is fast, he is good but what a prim-a-donna. :) He comes up from behind me to lap me, I always have my f3 key on, mapped to my button box, I see him coming up and he says to me, "Darren, I'm going to pass you on your left", I just keep racing, there are about 3 cars in front of me and we are on the same lap.

I just keep hitting the apex the best I can and I am racing pretty decent. This prim-a-donna can't pass me, I don't try to block him or anything, he is the faster car. He needs to learn how to pass but he doesn't even try. So then he tells me what I am doing is very dangerous, I ignore him again. So then he tells me it's in the rules that I must pull over and let him by. I catch one of the cars ahead of me and pass him.

Last I heard was this prim-a-donna telling the guy I just passed was he was going to pass him on the left. Biggest problem in all of iRacing, there are a lot of fast racers that don't know how to pass. A few nights ago at Suzuka I battled a guy for 6 or 7 laps, we were both on the same lap. He could catch me on the esses but once I got through them I gained distance on him every lap.

Then after about the 6th lap he nails me from behind, sending me right threw the esses, I get a warning that I cut the course, this guy can't pass me without hitting me. This goes on for 3 or 4 more laps. Then he hits my rear quarter panel and spins me off the track, giving me a black flag for damage. I catch him half a lap away and give him a taste of his own medicine. He started swearing at me big time, I asked him how he liked a taste of his own medicine. :) We were both done for the night.

I agree.
I have never had anyone tell me, "They are going to pass...." That seems to presumptious(sp) and I would not like it! LOL
I often here people say, "I'm on your left/right"
I use voicecomms to tell the fast guys, "pass to my left/right." and when I leave the pits and my F3 shows cars coming down the track towards me.
:)
 
Mac K
The way I see it, drivers can't communicate with each other during a real race, so why should I use a mic? If you can't properly overtake and make a few good judgement calls, you shouldn't be racing in my opinion.

I own a mic, but its never connected for this reason. I think a lot of people are more concerned with safety than racing, when the reality is racing is dangerous, its about making calculated risks to overtake drivers. I'd rather suprise the driver in front of me and catch him off guard than tell him that i'm going to be passing him and be a puss about it.

"If you no longer go for the gap, you are no longer a racing driver"
 

I hope that was intended as a joke..

I own a mic, but its never connected for this reason. I think a lot of people are more concerned with safety than racing, when the reality is racing is dangerous, its about making calculated risks to overtake drivers. I'd rather suprise the driver in front of me and catch him off guard than tell him that i'm going to be passing him and be a puss about it.

"If you no longer go for the gap, you are no longer a racing driver"

This is the mentality to many people follow, people see an inch of space, think they're Aryton Senna and go for it, and you can imagine what happens next. Aryton went for gaps when he raced, but only ones he knew he could get through, and people need to realize this. I've had people try to pass me in the worst of spots, and their excuse is "there was a gap". I for one could never concentrate with a bunch of people talking in my ear constantly, and like I said, there is no cross driver communication in real racing and the only form of communication during a race is usually from a spotter. This is just my opinion, but I have no plans any time soon to use a mic any time soon. As for being lapped, if a faster class comes up on me, I hold my line. If I'm being lapped by cars in the same class as me, I move over on the straights and let them go, most races aren't long enough to gain my lap back and I've got nothing to gain.
 
The way I see it is its your job if you have someone on your rear bummper to keep them gaps closed. If you cant keep it closed at the start of the corner and run a little wide and try to slam the door shut at the apex then its your fault. Some people being passed need to learn to give up the spot when your beat in the corner. If you run the corner a little wide (even if its just a few inches) you should always expect the guy behind you is gonna be there. The biggest problem is people dont know when they should give up the position.
 
If someone is behind me and I get the feeling they are in a hurry to get around me and faster then me I let them around by taking a turn wide and letting them around. As long as I can't pull away from them they are probably faster then I am, so why would I want to risk them trying a stupid pass and taking us both out. I've probably had 50 total races in Iracing and I bet only 4 or 5 times have I got with a car or 2 that we were the same speed and were really racing each other. 9 times out of 10 the guy in front of you or behind you is either a better or worse driver then you are. I don't know why people just don't let the faster drivers around regardless of what lap they are on so everyone can get in groups of equal skill instead of trying to race someone who is going to beat you anyway. That's why almost all accidents happen. Just race your race and don't worry if someone is going to pass you. If they are faster then just give them a decent line to pass. If you are a more consistent driver you will get that spot back after they crash. If they don't crash and you lose that spot, they were better then you and should beat you anyway. If it's the last few laps though then give it hell and don't let anyone around.
 
The way I see it is its your job if you have someone on your rear bummper to keep them gaps closed. If you cant keep it closed at the start of the corner and run a little wide and try to slam the door shut at the apex then its your fault. Some people being passed need to learn to give up the spot when your beat in the corner. If you run the corner a little wide (even if its just a few inches) you should always expect the guy behind you is gonna be there. The biggest problem is people dont know when they should give up the position.

That can be debated I think, I'm not just going to roll over and let someone by me because they're close, if they get a run on me and can pass cleanly, then fine they win and that position is theirs. At the same time I'm not going to block someone, taking a defense line if fine, blocking is just showing that you're slower and need to do it to keep a faster car behind you. At the same time I'm not expecting the overtaking driver to not try and pass me at every opprotunity, but some places are more suited than others. If you can force someone into a mistake and get around them cleanly, props to you. Thats how I see it, and how I race and I rarely get involved in any incidents. 👍
 
I will be so happy to get out of the lower splits. Now that I've got my A license in oval. Really looking forward to some better, cleaner drivers. It is a bummer to drive your best and have some half cocked knucklehead ruin your race. It just blows my mind sometimes.
 
...if a faster class comes up on me, I hold my line. If I'm being lapped by cars in the same class as me, I move over on the straights and let them go, most races aren't long enough to gain my lap back and I've got nothing to gain.

This sums up my opinion on this tbh 👍
 
Lots of talk about overtaking here that are debated on what people think is correct. And none are fully correct. How do I know? I watched the Driving school videos and all the things are covered there.
I guess you guys are to busy racing without knowing how to do it correct, because if you watched those videos you wouldn't even talk about overtaking and corner rights. Spend a hour of your life to watch those videos and you have become a smarter racer without touching your wheel.

I have lot's of experience to drive among other drivers from GT5 in the ICGTC championship and tons of that experience have helped me out in iRacing. But when watching those videos I learned so much as iRacing isn't GT5.
Also I take it more as a racing career instead of a game, so I figured I watch those videos so I'm sure to not ruin your race (if you experts are on the same track)
But I have learned that not many people watch those videos and have their own rules on what's acceptable or not. No wonder incidents happens, self-proclaimed experts with their own rules meet to battle it out.. Doomed to end bad.
 
Lots of talk about overtaking here that are debated on what people think is correct. And none are fully correct. How do I know? I watched the Driving school videos and all the things are covered there.
I guess you guys are to busy racing without knowing how to do it correct, because if you watched those videos you wouldn't even talk about overtaking and corner rights. Spend a hour of your life to watch those videos and you have become a smarter racer without touching your wheel.

I have lot's of experience to drive among other drivers from GT5 in the ICGTC championship and tons of that experience have helped me out in iRacing. But when watching those videos I learned so much as iRacing isn't GT5.
Also I take it more as a racing career instead of a game, so I figured I watch those videos so I'm sure to not ruin your race (if you experts are on the same track)
But I have learned that not many people watch those videos and have their own rules on what's acceptable or not. No wonder incidents happens, self-proclaimed experts with their own rules meet to battle it out.. Doomed to end bad.

You know what? I've watched those already (thanks) but maybe you'd like to share your profound knowledge and tell us mere mortals where we're going wrong?
 
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