Is anyone else disappointed with GT5?

[ruf-ctr2]

GT5 is solid, there are no faults technically.
No frame skip, no lag online. Everything runs correctly.
What you call problems is your opinion, there not technical problems.
Not being able to level up in A Spec is your fault for not trying the other races given to you like seasonal events and special events.

Stop acting like the game has issues when it's a solid game.
Some things could of been better, thats all.

First:

It's nobody's fault but the level systems - what is it good for - to show how good I can drive - NO For that reason there are licences....

Second:

You stop acting like the game has NO issues as it has soooooooooo many.

 

[Afro1]

No - I was expecting a GT that is as good as GT4 ore even a bit better - but GT5 is much worst...

It has less A-Spec events
The A-Spec events it has are not really interesting (a lot of them consist of only one race)
Most A-Spec events have a car in it that is much faster than the others so you have to choose your car to compete against this one car..
The level system is just there to make the game artificially longer..
The price cars were better in GT4 - and they were given out multiple times on championship races.
In GT4 you could save between races in championships.
In GT4 the implementation of "B-Spec" was much better.
Special events in GT4 were a "ad on" in GT5 they are a must because of the level system...


And so the list continues on and on and on

You really think they have the time they had to spend making A spec events like they did on GT4? They had to make 200 accurate cars with the best sounds they could offer and a good pyshics engine. And dont get me even started on 3D, 60 FPS and multiplayer.

Get real, you got what you wanted so now enjoy it.
I didnt ask for any of this. only the hardcore GT fans ala you.
So hush puppy!

 

[kdryan]

Speaking as a newcomer who has never played the GT series before a few weeks ago...

Is it fun? Definitely. It's a freaking BLAST. Love the cars, love the racing, usually fall asleep during B-Spec races.

Is it flawed? Yes. More so than most games. It was obviously rushed out the door incomplete to be released before the holidays. You can just hear the phrase 'We'll fix it with a patch' being spoken several times in PD's offices.

Will I play it again? Not that likely. Not that I dislike it that much; I really have enjoyed it. But between the flaws, graphics issues, and mindless hours of grinding (leveling up on Final Fantasy turned me off for the same reason), it's just not worth it.

Just sayin'...

 

[RikkiGT-R]

GT5 was, initially, nowhere near as good as I was expecting. But now I've been playing it for quite some time, it's a whole lot better than I initially thought.

 

[kdryan]

BTW, would it have been so hard to put a menu bar on the screen with shortcuts directly to the garage, NCD, UCD, Tuning Shop, etc? It really is a pain to have to jump through 5 or 6 screens to change cars, then go to the tuning shop.

 

[SergioRZ]

What about selecting several cars and bulk changing the tires (or anything else for that matter).

I want to put Racing Medium tires on 5 cars... select 5 cars from garage, then go to Tuning Shop, buy RM tires for all selected cars. Done

That would be nice.

Changing the oil on multiple cars? That would be nice also...

Going to practice on my favourite track to fine tune my cars... why can't I change cars without leaving the track? Well, I can do that if I create a room online, and from there all I need to do is change car from my favourites. Why isn't this available from the practice tracks?

And please.... please.... let me change the wheels on those 80's Toyota's (Standard cars).

Anyway, I'm in love with the game! Thanks PD for all the good stuff. I hope you can make it even better

 

[Khoin]

(I'll reply to this post even though it's not directed at me, I realise it isn't, and am not trying to speak for the OP or argue his or her case against this poster, I just think they're interesting points to reply to.)

I'm pretty sick of these types of threads, and while you do have good points it does frustrate me having to see this on a forum I primarily come to, to find out more things about a game I love playing.

It's a discussion forum related to GT. So people discussing what they think about GT isn't really a big surprise I'd say. If there are a lot of threads about the same issues that a lot of people have with this game, maybe it's because these issues are, at least to part of the playerbase, valid concerns?

Also keep in mind that people that take the time to vent here probably love, if not the game, then at least the series, enough to care about it. People that simply don't like it won't play it and won't post about it. There are however a lot of people that really like parts of this game but are disappointed about other parts.

For starters, you are level 21, so by now you have played this game for quite a while and have just unlocked the first set of higher tier events. It's quite possible you are just a bit bored of the game now and need a break, I did when I reached that level, because I'd be playing GT and nothing else.

Can't speak for the OP, but I'm level 27 or so now (Aspec), I'm not bored with the game, it's just very limited in what it allows me to do. I can see so many ways this game could be far more enjoyable, all easily achievable with only small changes, yet it is what it is, a great driving engine packaged in a sub-par racing game.

To say this game was the biggest dissapointment you've had in 5 years is a little un-fair. You must of been really riding the hype and taking every bit of information as full features. I just always think that there is no other game which can offer all or ever half of what GT can offer in terms of features, so why should I be dissapointed?

If that's how you feel, you shouldn't. It's not how the OP feels though, if to him this is the biggest disappointment in 5 years, that's just what it is. Not up to you to tell him how to feel about anything, really. I wouldn't say it's my biggest disappointment in 5 years, but I'd be lying if I said I am not disappointed in what they made of this game. And that was me already expecting a game with the well-known GT-series flukes and crazy stuff.

Racing- You only need tune your cars if you want, it took me a second playthrough to realise I can buy a car from UCD and after an oil change it's more than capable to run stock against other cars AND provide a close, fun and challenging race.

Tuning cars is a big part of the game. Also, while some cars will have a race they are exactly matched for, a lot (and I do mean a lot) don't. And even if there is a well-matched race, it could be in any of the difficulty-levels. And is always limited to between 1 to 5 tracks. And most don't have tire wear or fuel use. And are in the dry during the day. And are only a few laps, without qualifying, so you have to have a car that can overtake 6 others in 3 laps... maybe to you this is reallistic racing, and enough options for each car... to me (and I think to many) it just isn't. Not even close. So far from it, I simply don't get how someone who runs 24 hour races in real life and calls himself a perfectionist can have signed off on this...

Saying you are not motivated, again you should just take a break. I doubt you'd play any other game if you didn't want to? So don't blame the game, just stop playing it...

While I agree to some extent with the "don't like it? don't play it!" mentality, it's not really what this is about. If people simply don't like the game, you're right.

However, if people, like me, really like some of the game. And have liked the series for a long time now. Doesn't it make sense for them to be disappointed?

I love racing cars in this game, but every session I play I'm thinking "I wish I could just..." "If only they'd..." "Why haven't they..." "Why would they do that..."

Maybe you're right and my expectations where far too high. However, as I explained in a previous post, there are issues I can understand, they are the result of time-constraints mostly. Some issues though, simply aren't. They could've been easily prevented. Now of course, liking a game is an opinion, so maybe while I don't like the way Aspec was handled, everybody else does. Maybe I'm just weird. There seem to be quite a few weird people then, though. It might be we're actually on to something.

What you said about Rain and Night racing are fair really. I don't really see them as a problem though. Rain is Wet, Night is Dark - It's what you expect really.

Still, having played through everything bar the endurances and the FGT championship, I've raced in the rain maybe twice? And at night once or twice? Just seems odd to me.

As for the sound, whats wrong with it? It's much better than other GT games. The sound detail is up there with some of the other best console games to be honest.

Won't argue here, I think the sound's fine

The options to tailor races to certain times of day and starting grid positions and such have never been available in most racing games, I don't see why you should get so upset over it when you have the choice to have time change on anyway, which is more than most games give.

It is once again, to me at least, an issue of great potential not being used. The fact that all these options aren't in other games (which I can't say for sure, but I'll believe you) doesn't mean they don't have to be in GT5. They could, very easily, give us all these great options to use the engine they made in so many fantastic ways. Yet, they haven't.

Personally, and I understand the point you made, the paint system is fine. If you are not bothered to collect certain colours fast and you are patient it'll work straight into you hands as a nice extra feature that could of been left out. I like the fact I can paint my cars. It's like all Japanees game design, it's there in such a way that it doesn't give you everything for free, like most western players have come to expect from western games. A colour wheel would destroy the idea of rare colours, just like rare used cars - so both you and whoever see you online won't be able to appreciate how rare or unique your ride is.

This is very much design philosophy. I don't care much either way. While I do enjoy repainting some cars, it's hardly an important part of the game to me. However, if it was, I could see myself not being to happy about how this was handled. Still, I wouldn't say they've made a mistake here, they just did it differently to how I would've done it. There's something to be said for the choice they made, as you point out.

What you wrote after those points was just out of anger, and I think after reflection and letting the game sit outside of your console for a few days/weeks will fix that. You are not going to forget playing this game either way, like the game or not. Also the production value is VERY high, think about how polished the game is and the features and physics included. Where other games have 70 cars and around 20 tracks you get a whole lot more in Granturismo, even excluding the standard cars.

Again, can't speak for the OP, but to me, this game does indeed have some very strong points. It also has some very noticable flaws though. I agree that the features and physics and carlist are fantastic. But because of that, I'm very disappointed about what they let me do whith those features and physics and cars. It's because of the high quality of parts of this game that the lack of quality in other areas is both so obvious and so frustrating.

The facts are:

They advertise the game with 1000 cars - and it does.

They advertise the game with weather change and night- and it does.

The dirt accumulation is strange and only seems to work whilst racing.

"and much more?" Sony didn't advertise any features that didn't make it into the game.

True. Doesn't change a thing about what I think of the game though. I'm not angry at PD for lying to me or anything, I'm disappointed that this game, which I do still like, isn't even half as good as it could have very easily been...

To say this game is a cash cow is COMPLETELY UNFAIR. Don't be silly when other games like COD:Blackops have less new features than you have fingers. Things like the Paint Tickets, Standard car compatability, online profile and other small details were added when their percieved value is nothing. PD could of released a cash cow, physics/graphics updated GT4.

I agree with you here, I don't think it's a cash cow. I think they did intend it to be a great game. For some reason though, they seem to miss some obvious flaws in every GT, and in this one more then ever.

Another Point to add is that the game feels amazing when you are playing with a wheel. I have a friend who recently started playing with a wheel and said it's a completely different game.

This is both completely true and completely false. While driving with a wheel is indeed amazing, it doesn't change a thing about any of my issues with the game. My issues aren't with driving. Actually, even with a DS3 I find driving all the cars very enjoyable (though less than with a wheel). I still want to be able to drive the cars in meaningful races though...

You played prologue so long because you wanted to play GT5, and now you've played GT5 you are sad it's comming or seems to be getting to the end and you've not had the experience you'd imagined.

Can't really reply to this one as it very much relates to the OP's post only.

So to review if you don't want to read this all:
You've been playing too long, without what makes GT great: A FFB Wheel.
You tuned your cars too much so the early races were too easy.
You are incredibly picky and don't care so much for physics (which you didn't mention) as you do for graphics.
The online experience is good, friends or not some of the public lobbies have some great racing in it.

Don't know if the OP plays without a wheel... I've played with a wheel, but like I said, it doesn't change much about my issues with the game.

It could be that the OP doesn't care much for physics, though it could also be that, like me, he thinks they're amazing and because of that he's disappointed in the rest of the game. Personally, I don't even care for graphics that much... I mean, yes, the game looks amazing. Yes, standard cars look less good. No, I don't really care about that, it all looks good enough to serve it's purpose to me. What I care about most of all is gameplay. That's where the game lacks most in my opinion. Of course, blocky shadows shouldn't be in this game, but I can live with them if the rest of the game is great.

Online is ok-ish, though the interface is unwieldy and, for me and my schedule, it often takes to long to find a race I want to be in and actually have it start... Besides that, while I enjoy the occasional online bout, I think offline racing is at least as important. At least to me it is. Maybe that's unrealistic in this day and age, I realise that.

I really want the mods to make a review area in this forum. So I don't have to see this negativity when I'm here to have a good time whilst enjoying the game.

Sorry - I'm just angry with all these negative reviews, it's hard to enjoy the forums if there are so many threads constantly picking up the short comings of the game.

A review area could be a good idea. However, most of these threads are easily recognisable, and thus skippable, by their title. You don't have to read them.

And while you are angry with all these negative reviews, and they stop you from enjoying these forums, some people are "angry" (well, more disappointed really, at least in my case) with the negative points in this game, which to some extent stop us from enjoying it.

 

[ruf-ctr2]

You really think they have the time they had to spend making A spec events like they did on GT4? They had to make 200 accurate cars with the best sounds they could offer and a good pyshics engine. And dont get me even started on 3D, 60 FPS and multiplayer.

Get real, you got what you wanted so now enjoy it.
I didnt ask for any of this. only the hardcore GT fans ala you.
So hush puppy!

200 cars with sound like a vacuum cleaner are not what I wanted!

And even if one person at PD had spent more than 1 hour to create A-Spec it would have been much better than it is now!

 

[convict01]

Man some of you people need to get a life and step out of the computer generated world that you spending to much time in.
If you dont like the game DONT PLAY IT!!!

 

[Khoin]

Yeah it only takes a couple of seconds. But why did they put in the confirmation dialogue where it doesn't matter and ditched it where it's important? Why do I have to confirm 4 times to buy and install an individual tuning part, but I'm not asked whether I really want to throw away the near 24 hours of my lifetime I just put into an endurance race? If you take a step back and look at it, it doesn't really make sense, does it?

Generally speaking, this is the problem. GT5 surely has its qualities, but it could have been so much better. I agree that no game is as good as it could have been, but ... and this is the important part ... GT5 has a surprisingly large amount of flaws which are completely unnecessary. Fixing these things wouldn't have consumed any extra time on PDs side. So they either didn't care about it (which is bad) or met these decisions intentionally (which is even worse).

Whether these things floors the game for you is a matter of personal perception. Some people can live with it, some can't. It would be great if both sides would respect each other however. I can sleep perfectly fine despite anyone telling me that he things GT5 is an awesome game. It simply depends on which parts of the game you put your emphasis on, and what you expected of it. That said, in return I expect people to respect the opinion which I described above and which is the subject of this thread, which is also my opinion.

Very well said, sums it all up really.

 

[MowTin]

Choose a standard car in a standard track with rain and you got yourself one of the worst looking racing games of this generation. That's why i only use Premium cars, ive only touched a standard once and that was the countach.

A pretty girl may not look so great in the morning with rollers in her hair. And maybe she has a mole that if you stare at long enough it becomes all you see.

I was in an online race at Le Mans (Sp?). It started out at night and then dawn broke. It was amazing looking. Or how about the Nurburgring after it rains has this misty look to it. What about the jaw dropping detail in the premium cars. You can even take pictures of the interiors to find even more amazing details.

 

[ruf-ctr2]

Man some of you people need to get a life and step out of the computer generated world that you spending to much time in.
If you dont like the game DONT PLAY IT!!!

If you don't want to read other people opinions - DON'T READ THEM!!!


By the way: This "If you dont like the game DONT PLAY IT!!!" argument is by far the most stupid one I read in years.

It is the right of people who are disappointed with a product they bought to complain about it.

 

[Afro1]

Man some of you people need to get a life and step out of the computer generated world that you spending to much time in.
If you dont like the game DONT PLAY IT!!!

This thread.
You guys are like "this game was the biggest dissapointment I've had in 5 years" you must play games all day.
Games for short bursts of entertainment you play it a little and then you go do some other ****. Example: I go to a mates house and I play Halo for a bit then we do something else. I don't sit on there all day with him.

To get the most out of a video game you need to take your time with it.

Also you theres a difference between opinion and just out right bashing my friend.
You're just trying to make the game look bad just like that video which tried to show that GT5 had robotic AI.

 

[ruf-ctr2]

A pretty girl may not look so great in the morning with rollers in her hair. And maybe she has a mole that if you stare at long enough it becomes all you see.

I was in an online race at Le Mans (Sp?). It started out at night and then dawn broke. It was amazing looking. Or how about the Nurburgring after it rains has this misty look to it. What about the jaw dropping detail in the premium cars. You can even take pictures of the interiors to find even more amazing details.

And THAT is the reason why PD put all their afford in creating the premium cars and forgetting about the actual GAME - that we can make photos of the interior?

I mean what is GT about - I thought it should be a RACING simulator and not a "make photos of the cars interiour" simulator...

 

[Afro1]

FFS, you people asked for nice looking cars they gave you it and now deal with it. I don't care about graphics, I would of rather had basic looking cars all with cockpits but thats just me.
They gave you what you wanted, you should be happy but now you're bashing it.

 

[ruf-ctr2]

This thread.
You guys are like "this game was the biggest dissapointment I've had in 5 years" you must play games all day.
Games for short bursts of entertainment you play it a little and then you go do some other ****. Example: I go to a mates house and I play Halo for a bit then we do something else. I don't sit on there all day with him.

To get the most out of a video game you need to take your time with it.

Also you theres a difference between opinion and just out right bashing my friend.
You're just trying to make the game look bad just like that video which tried to show that GT5 had robotic AI.

Nobody is trying anything the game does it by itself - it just SHOWs that is IS bad.
Also the AI - there is absolutely NO need of a video to prove that is absolutely bad.

 

[Afro1]

You know what I'm done with this thread.
This is the thing with nerds always complaining about **** and not even just playing the damn thing normally.
You're the people who are making games worse.

 

[ruf-ctr2]

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[Khoin]

GT5 is solid, there are no faults technically.
No frame skip, no lag online. Everything runs correctly.
What you call problems is your opinion, there not technical problems.
Not being able to level up in A Spec is your fault for not trying the other races given to you like seasonal events and special events.

Stop acting like the game has issues when it's a solid game.
Some things could of been better, thats all.

Partly true (things like screen tear, blocky shadows, clipping, etc., might be considered technical faults though).

However, even if it's technically completely solid, that doesn't make it a good game. Yes, "good" is an opinion and thus subjective. Apparently by your standards, this game is good. By mine, it's "decent", with the exception of the actual driving, which is great. I wanted the whole game to be great. I don't "blame" anyone for it not meeting my standards, I just think it's a shame. And I think, seeing how many people here voice the same concerns, they have made a number of bad design decisions which I hope they will fix either in updates or in GT6. I'm happy for you that you think this game is good enough. I do disagree though.

You really think they have the time they had to spend making A spec events like they did on GT4? They had to make 200 accurate cars with the best sounds they could offer and a good pyshics engine. And dont get me even started on 3D, 60 FPS and multiplayer.

Get real, you got what you wanted so now enjoy it.
I didnt ask for any of this. only the hardcore GT fans ala you.
So hush puppy!

Start timer: 00:00

Event: German performance sedan cup!
Tracks: Nurburgring, High speed ring, Grand valley speedway, deep forest raceway.
Cars: German, 4 doors, bhp <550, max tires sports hard, weight >1400kg (or even better a P/W ratio, but that's not an option unfortunately).
Prizecar: BMW M3 CSL

Stop timer: 01:38

Another Aspec event done... (the timer is fictional by the way, but I'm sure you get the point. Scrap 1 premium shopping cart and imagine the amount of Aspec events you could design in that time).

I don't really know who asked for what, I asked for nothing, to be honest, I simply expected GT5 to be an improved GT4, more cars, more races, better graphics, better physics, better options. It has some of that, but not all. Not what I expected, that. Still a good game, but nowhere near as great as it could have been. I think that's a shame. Nothing to lose sleep about, but still a shame.

 

[XtC10]

I still don't understand why PD chose to shorten the championship races, for example in GT4 the Formula GT championship was a 15 races cup, compared to what? six races on GT5? And you can't even save your championship progress during races? WTF
Do you call that a step forward.

I would much rather prefer a total 100% A-spec game, with save feature enabled during pitstops such as old games like Indy Racing on the PS2.


This might be the first GT which I lose interest in finishing, GT4 had A-spec points and kinda a determinant whether the races were challenging or not, but now all that thrill is gone.

 

[Exorcet]

i just don't get what the problem is.
the game is monstrous in terms of content. it's got a built in social network, it's got a you-race-the-dang-car mode, it's got a you-manage-a-racing-team mode (that you can completely ignore if you don't like. just don't click that picture), there's GT TV, a course editor thingamabob, a billion cars, insanely good driving physics, an easily customizable online mode (provided you aren't scared of a couple menus), some very excellent lighting and weather effects, what could have been a very nice marketplace (until the whole birthday glitch came about, then got further ruined by the save back-up which made the marketplace a joke), an illustrated history of some of the biggest names in the Automotive industry, a robust Photo mode, and a bunch of other things i'm leaving out.

GT5 has flaws like every game has.
but Polyphony Digital has shown that they're not above fixing those things (whether we really need it or just think we do).

it's really simple in the end.
if you're into the auto racing lifestyle, GT5 is for you.
if you're not really into the auto racing lifestyle, you should probably go elsewhere.

It's not really so simple. It's a shame if people are just willing to accept something subpar. How do you expect to get progress without calling out and critiquing the errors?

While the tone set out by the starter of this topic is rather negative, he has every right to feel that way. I agree with him on a lot of points despite having a positive outlook on the game overall.

As for your final lines, I'm very much into the auto racing lifestyle, but GT5 isn't very good at giving me that lifestyle. GT Mode, that you are forced to play pretty much, isn't even about racing. There is a leveling system and credits. The AI grids in the races are really just one prodigal driver in a prodigal car, while everyone else is just traffic that you have to deal with since qualification doesn't exist, even for the ridiculously short 5 lap races.

Even if you bother to handicap yourself, like taking a "fair" car into a race without fixing the oil, engine, or chassis, you can still win by a mile depending on how prodigal the one decent driver/car is.

A game focused on racing would have qualification, decent race length, and more open access to cars so you could race them. I'd like that, and if I have to keep pointing that out before PD will take GT there, I don't mind.

It took 5 years cause of all that extreme car modelling they had to do and that YOU wanted but now you're complaining.

Who is you? It is not I. When I saw premium cars my first thought was disaster. They are nothing more than a time sink when we could just have models from GT4 and then work on more important things. Not everyone buys the game for graphics.

Also, one could argue that how premium and standard were sorted out was pretty secretive. If PD were to communicate more, GT5 could have been 1000 times better. Honestly, why wouldn't you let fans help you design the game?

Remember people it's just a game. You're acting like there was some new revolutionairy electric car coming out and it took 5 years and in all those five years you were forced to drive a rubbish car with lots of problems. But in the end that electric car was faulty and you wasted all your money.
Games are for a little bit of entertainment, not to play all your life.
Go outside for abit people, you're not in the real world.

I don't see your point. Games are entertainment, sure, but why does that mean you can't complain about them? Why can't I be on the forum and also have a life in the real world at the same time?

 

[kmg43]

I don't share any of your sentiments. This is the most addicting game I've played in well over a year, and the best racing game I've played.

Sorry it didn't work out for you.

Ditto this. I have a serious addiction to this game. I haven't even been getting enough sleep... plus I am currently at my office, typing this, while the boss tells me something from the other side of the office.
I don't see what all the complaints are about.

 

[VBR]

+1 to everything you said in the first post Aryanenzo!


👍

 

[SS_1182]

Aryanenzo
It's torturing me. I feel like I am dedicated to play it because i waited so long and i was so hyped about it. But when I do play it i can't stand it for more than an hour.

Lol, I can spend two hours just testing and tuning cars and completely lose the time. Sorry to say, it's you, not the game.


Ever try the online? You need to get involved in online racing with like-minded people. 2 or 3 hours of enjoyment can fly by.



Bad attitudes, that's what ruins experiences.

 

[ANFD]

The game is GREAT ! The game is also NOT so great ! People who love the game (myself included) have reason to be disappointed. Those who seem to be head over heels in love with the Kazster don't have the right to tell others that their disappointment is their own doing. Get your head out of the sand and put down the Kool-Aide

PD should know better ...... in previous versions of the francise, it was fundamental that we could adjust individual gears. Now we have "Fully Adjustable" gearboxes that we pay 20K credits for and we can't adjust the gears. According to PD, it's the interface that THEY designed which keeps this from being able to occur and not likely something that they can now fix

One of Kaz's tweets about the last update was that it activated the feature for us to set our own music library for the menu background music ..... he forgot to mention that you must go into the Audio settings options and reset the option every 10 minutes or so since it constantly reverts back to the default "Musak" format.

I'm at level 31 so I've played the game a lot (25 in B-Spec). IMO, B-Spec is a total waste of time and resource. I've enjoyed the game a great deal in spite of not being able to hear my vacuuum cleaner engine audio when surrounded by other cars with actual engine sounds.

People who complain about the people who complain need to be less ego-centric and realize that PD released a sub-par effort and there are going to be people who are GT fanatics, yet harbor significant disappointment. Please don't tell me to stop playing the game because I don't find it idylically perfect. I love the game but find living with it more challenging than the events themselves

 

[SS_1182]

Oh, and another LOL. You're only level 21 and these are your "final thoughts on the game"?



Think about that for just a minute.

 

[Tornado]

GT5 is solid, there are no faults technically.

This is a blatantly and objectively false statement.

No frame skip, no lag online. Everything runs correctly.
What you call problems is your opinion, there not technical problems.

What I call problems are actual problems with the game. Kaz has even admitted that he wants to find ways to fix many of them, like the shadows and the lag.

Not being able to level up in A Spec is your fault for not trying the other races given to you like seasonal events and special events.

The game shouldn't be forcing you to do things like Seasonal or Special Events in the first place.

Stop acting like the game has issues when it's a solid game.

Stop acting like the game doesn't when it does and even Kaz has admitted it.

You really think they have the time they had to spend making A spec events like they did on GT4? They had to make 200 accurate cars with the best sounds they could offer and a good pyshics engine. And dont get me even started on 3D, 60 FPS and multiplayer.

Do you honestly think any of that matters when it comes to creating events in single player? Because it absolutely doesn't.

Get real, you got what you wanted so now enjoy it.

I didn't ask for any of the flaws or problems the game has that previous games in the series didn't. And I certainly didn't ask for any of the intentionally-made stupid design decisions that the game so obviously suffers from.

 

[DaveS1138]

I'm at level 31 so I've played the game a lot (25 in B-Spec). IMO, B-Spec is a total waste of time and resource. I've enjoyed the game a great deal in spite of not being able to hear my vacuuum cleaner engine audio when surrounded by other cars with actual engine sounds.

Personally I'm loving B-spec this time around. Certainly much more than I did in GT4.

I think removing the time skip has actually made the mode much better. Now instead of just hitting the overtake button and leaving him running on 4 times speed I'm actually taking the time to watch his races and finding them much more fun.

You can also get some very intense racing when you dont just give him an overpowered monster and really have to help him battle for the win. There is so much more stratedgy involved this time around in picking the right places on the course to speed him up or slow him down. Try to force him to overtake in the wrong spot or speed up at the wrong time and it can cost him dearly.

For me personally I think PD did an amazing job on the ballance of the game. I can certainly see why people are disapointed with (for example) not being able to tune individual gears but for somebody like me that doesn't do that they have made the tunning much more accessible.

Short of cleaning up the very distracting and annoying shadows and making some of the A-Spec races more complex I really dont think they could have done a better job with GT5.

 

[the Interceptor]

Oh, and another LOL. You're only level 21 and these are your "final thoughts on the game"?



Think about that for just a minute.

Might be that the OP was talking about "final thoughts" because he is about to stop playing GT5 ... just a thought.

 

[Tornado]

I can certainly see why people are disapointed with (for example) not being able to tune individual gears but for somebody like me that doesn't do that they have made the tunning much more accessible

I'm sorry, but no. It doesn't make the tuning any more accessible when the current system works exactly the same as the Auto Tune setting did all the way back to the original game. You could always tune stuff the way GT5 does. The only difference was that you weren't forced to do so if you did want to do more advanced stuff.