Thank you, I might give the RSR a go. It's a shame it's not used in any of the circuit experience tests (or free test drive of potential purchases as I look at it). I've been holding off buying one as I feared the handling would be bad with it being MR. I've been avoiding 1st (far too short) and short shifting up to 3rd in the GT-R coming out of the complex and chicane to manage wheel spin. I know its losing me time but it feels less of a loss than the time spent fish tailing. I also can't help thinking if the newer versions of the GT-R GT3 would be any better as we're stuck with the '13 in GT Sport (which makes it one of the oldest Gr.3 cars in the game along with the Z4) and normally when new race cars are produced they're normally easier to drive than their predecessors.