Is having SRF and/or racing line on 'noobish'?

[C_Raccoon23]

I really don't care if people use these aids or not. And I think people should be able to use any options the game provides to suit them without being looked down for it.

 

[Rich S]

I never use the Driving-Line, cause it was hindering me during GT5: Prologue too.
Plus I know the most Tracks from past GT´s.

SRF is an other thing. I personally don´t like it, but if it´s on I just say it´s too ridiculouse.
Hihihi Berty <3
I use it during the FGTC Series run by him. But in Season 1 I ran without it. Indy Road curse I did a 1:09.3xx => was faster than the Track-Record Set by Barrichello during practice
=> FGT without SRF is fast enough but allot trickier

I´m with some others that say everybody should play the game the way he likes.

=> SRF isn´t God-mode you still have to use it properly (but it provides Grip where no Grip should be)

Driving line has never been used by me....I used it in Need for Speed shift when I'd never been on the Nurburgring before (didn't know the track, first time.) By the time GT5 rolled around I knew that track & so no line for me. The lines are rubbish anyway. Its not the quickest way around compared to the extreme stuff the top TT'ers are doing & what i've found over time.

Its a toughie when it comes to the Formula Gran Turismo....Anybody with a history in that thing know its a handful, but its not undrivable without SRF. You just have to jack the front brake bias up and the rear bias down.

Its obvious there was some kind of wacky condition with the FGT this time around....Maybe Ferrari said, "hey you can include our cars but your open wheel formula car has to be rubbish," or something to that effect.

Or it could have just ended up difficult like that because PD didn't put any time or effort into getting the thing working properly. Regardless, its still drivable w/o aids but I'd bet my house not that tail happy in real life if it were to be built. A driver cant crank through 4 G corners while worrying about that thing drifting all over the place like that.

On driver aids: I've seen SRF turned on for seasonal event Time trials, and the times were still super hard as always. Racing is racing, regardless of what the options are. If we were racing UFO's it would be hard because the other guy has a UFO too!!

Yes the FGTC uses all aids. I dont advice going up against them without aids. It wont end well for you, you'll be 2 minutes behind at the end of a race.

 

[mrkevans]

You have no idea how well i can race without SRF, so dont pretend that you do.
I race in an online championship with no aids apart from ABS and active steering, and i am winning.
I will take the FGT round there without SRF and i will post my times.
In the meantime you can take the FGT with SRF on around Nurburgring 24hr and beat that time, if you beat it then you can look down on me all you want.
I play the game how i want to, simple as that. Your elitist views do nothing other than make you look a fool.

You use active steering as well, that just says it all haha, I only use abs set at 1, and do very well online thankyou very much. If you are as quick as you think you are then you would not use driving aids at all, everyone can be quick using them.

 

[Crumpet]

Honestly, I try to avoid anybody that uses these. But we're all different and all have different ability.

 

[berty1979]

mrkevans
You use active steering as well, that just says it all haha, I only use abs set at 1, and do very well online thankyou very much. If you are as quick as you think are then you would not use driving aids at all, everyone can be quick using them.

Race him then?

 

[XPOWER180]

People should be able to use whatever they want on their virtual cars without the risk of being called children or noobs. It's pathetic to label people just because their preferances are different to someone elses. Each to their own. I use them according to what vehicle i'm using. Some interfere with the balance, others feel better for it - it's down to you and no one else how you choose your set up and to hell with those who dictate and mock otherwise.

 

[NCRthree]

Yes but with distinctions.

However, there's absolutely nothing "wrong" with being a begineer. If you haven't much experience with racing games, GT5 can seem really difficult w/o some aids. Slowly easing out of them will make the game more challenging and rewarding. I imagine most folks are attracted to GT5 because of its premise of a Real Driving Simulator.

Driving Line is a pretty good tool for learning new tracks especially the Track Creator tracks. I find it extremely distracting after a few laps though.

SRF is a definite begineer tool. And certainly a good tool to ease you into the game. After a while GT5 just gets too easy with it on so it's just a natural progression to turn it off.

 

[Pagey279]

You use active steering as well, that just says it all haha, I only use abs set at 1, and do very well online thankyou very much. If you are as quick as you think you are then you would not use driving aids at all, everyone can be quick using them.

Not accepting my challenge i see.
We can all say we do very well at something, but without proof its just hollow words. I have provided proof that i can race. Like i said beat my time. If you can then you have the right to speak to me in this derogatory manner.

 

[will-i-am]

As i have said i find the game more enjoyable with SRF on, and before you say i cant drive try and beat my lap record around Nurburgring 24hr in an FGT, i set a 6.07.9. You will soon find that i can indeed drive.

Is this time online, arcade or practice with SRF, active steer? Track grip set to real, tires? Alot of variables, Im not questioning your ability just how it was done.



You guys need to quit taking offense to what is said. They are just opinions. Like you say you play your own way and practice is the best way. If you ask a beginner they say no, if you ask a more well season player theyll say yes. What did anyone expect. I dont think anyone said that someone using it is childish. If you take it that way maybe you are. The aids are there to help. And thats the point, THEY ARE HELPING YOU!

 

[Spurgy 777]

You use active steering as well, that just says it all haha, I only use abs set at 1, and do very well online thankyou very much. If you are as quick as you think you are then you would not use driving aids at all, everyone can be quick using them.

I bet Pagey could beat you in any car with or without driving aids, especially the FGT, you probably couldnt get round a lap without spinning if you tried keeping up with him in and FGT even with driving aids lol. But by all means feel free to come along and prove us wrong Would be good entertainment.

 

[deadcat777]

All these aid should be remove from the game all together. It make the game more unrealistic.

 

[berty1979]

will-i-am

Is this time online, arcade or practice with SRF, active steer? Track grip set to real, tires? Alot of variables, Im not questioning your ability just how it was done.

Online times with SRF on, TCS off, ABS 1, ASM off, DL off, not sure about his AS setting. Track at real with RS tyres and tyre wear on. Its an awesome time I reckon.

 

[will-i-am]

^^^thanks

 

[Spurgy 777]

And track grip set to real with tyre wear on, and you can have any tires you like. And some driving aids make the game more realistic, like if you have a steering wheel, a steering wheel without active steering is a lot harder to handle than driving in real life.

 

[will-i-am]

1 more? With tire wear, was this done prior to the tire wear update. If so, provide a new time please, cause the old one is not comparable. Ill try. This is not an effort to belittle anyone, just see if i can keep up with and without. I can use ds3 or a wheel, either one.

 

[berty1979]

Oh and he used a controller, just want to make sure you get all the facts, yes it was before the update (15 weeks ago) 👍

Spurgey- I agree (I have been driving cars fast for years inc. some racing) that active steering is odd in the way that if you turn it off it feels less like real steering.

 

[Eric W]

I don't allow either when I'm hosting a room.

 

[zuperkiwi]

I only used SRF for the FGT Championship.
It's hard to control without... and I hate racing 3 hours to finish 2nd or worse.
Noobish? Don't care if it is

Racing line I only use for seasonals with generated tracks.
Why? Cause I don't want to race a lot of laps to get to know those (afwul) tracks...
Noobish? Yes, but I don't care

In any other event they both are off... especially in time trial events

 

[smrtb0mb]

For people who still use the driving line, I think you'll find it's easier than you think it is to drive without it. And the experience is so much more immersive.

There are usually brake point markers if you look for them - when the road dips down or up just before a hairpin is usually a good point to let off the gas. The last sign over the road before a corner is another typical braking point. Or at the beginning of a rumble strip.

I also find it easier to figure out a better line through 2 or more corners that are 'chained' together. GT seems to look at each corner individually, out of context - you can see the AI "thinks" this way too.

 

[McLOVIN5489]

not really.....the racing line doesnt necessarily give you the fastest route through corners, its just a refference....its mostly up to you to figure out how to go about the fastest route....as far as SFR......eh....thats pushing it IMO, but i dont look down on it...either way its ur game & if ur running a lobby its YOUR lobby so do what you want....whos gonna stop you?

 

[mrkevans]

I bet Pagey could beat you in any car with or without driving aids, especially the FGT, you probably couldnt get round a lap without spinning if you tried keeping up with him in and FGT even with driving aids lol. But by all means feel free to come along and prove us wrong Would be good entertainment.

Haha, I don't need to prove anything, unlike the guy using beginner aids. It's fact that they are ment for novice drivers so why then is he using them? That's the point am making, I win or finish in the top 3 of 99% of online races without novice aids that make you 3 seconds a lap faster, I hope to maybe catch you online sometime but then again I don't run in Srf rooms as they are full of idiots and rammers. Maybe one day you will both turn off your aids and race properly, its like claiming to be an Olympic swimmer but then go out using inflatable arm bands! It's fact the aids are for beginners FACT!

 

[berty1979]

Well stop going on unless you think you can beat him, I am sure you are a reasonably competent driver but he is offering to race you with his armbands off so where is your point? A few people want to seee him beat you with SRF off to bring you down from your puny pedestal. He challenged you, by saying you have nothing to prove proves a lot I reckon

 

[CC570]

. . . a steering wheel without active steering is a lot harder to handle than driving in real life.

?????

 

[berty1979]

CC570
?????

I get it, whats your question?

 

[bluexterra]

To me it's whatever it takes to win. Generally I don't use driving aids or make them very low. Some cars don't handle realistically or are barely drivable without aids. On the final race of the NASCAR special event, the car won't go fast enough unless you use aids. On the Top Gear special event, the Lotus Elise car without driving aids is like trying to walk on ice with blocks of ice strapped to your feet. On the other hand, with the karts I put the steering sensitivity to 0 or -1. I think people who have a driving wheel have a distinct advantage over people with a controller.

 

[Spurgy 777]

I agree, I think by saying you "have nothing to prove" just says "I cant prove anything", and we never said we always use SRF, we said we used it for FGTs, mostly because were in a championship where its allowed, so what would be the point in going 5 seconds a lap slower without it and coming last? If you join a room you use whatever aids are going to make you faster, most cars you wont use aids for because they make you slower, the FGT is just and exception. Doesnt mean you cant race without them.

 

[Ecchi-BANZAII!!]

I'm so happy that GT5 now has the function to restrict ABS as well.
Now only transmission type is left.

 

[CC570]

I get it, whats your question?

How do they figure its harder? Active steering is the first thing I disabled.

 

[MoLiEG]

I've never used the racing line on GT games... 👍

However, I do use Skid Recovery Force on some of the most powerful race cars... Ex: X2010, and some LMP/Group C cars...

 

[berty1979]

CC570
How do they figure its harder? Active steering is the first thing I disabled.

What exactly is active steering? What does it add when its on and when you take it away what happens?