Is having SRF and/or racing line on 'noobish'?

[Clytius]

Running the racing line isn't "noobish". Not everyone has time to memorize the tracks.

 

[berty1979]

The racing line is perfectly acceptable online if allowed by the host, if you follow it excactly you will lose anyway. It can be good for a reference on a strange track.

 

[TE]

it's not about what it makes you when they are on

but what you become when they're off...

 

[phil_75]

No i dont think any of them are. Not remotely.
I drive with them on because i like a proper pedal to the metal thrash, where i mash the throttle and i know the back end will stick, its more exciting IMO. With it off im tip toeing round, not knowing when to put the power down and i just dont enjoy it.

Use slower cars?

Stop tuning everything to the max?

 

[ghsnu]

I say nether. Some cars just need assists to race competitively (FGT comes to mind - bit picky sometimes). I'd keep SRF on myself if I wanted to due to the huge increase in grip it has, but I keep everything off besides ABS just to keep things fun. The driving line is useful for tracks your not used to or those that you would like to improve times on.

Whatever floats your boat - don't let the elitists bring you down with their "oh so godly" remarks. And for those elitists: the option to restrict SRF/driving line exist for your pleasure.

 

[SlyckTires]

Running the racing line isn't "noobish". Not everyone has time to memorize the tracks.

I'd say that 'noobish' is doing anything that is more appropriate to a beginner than to someone with more experience. That has to include using the racing line and grip aids like SRF. If you don't have time to memorise the tracks, I'd say that was a defining feature of someone who has less experience of the game than is required to play without them. QED.

BTW, for anyone thinking this doesn't have any effect, did you have a serious go on the recent GTR seasonal, where it was forced on?

 

[Ecchi-BANZAII!!]

Driving line is a noobish thing.
SFR on the other hand is as close as you can get to cheating without using hacks.

 

[KingSakery]

I never use the Driving-Line, cause it was hindering me during GT5: Prologue too.
Plus I know the most Tracks from past GT´s.

SRF is an other thing. I personally don´t like it, but if it´s on I just say it´s too ridiculouse.
Hihihi Berty <3
I use it during the FGTC Series run by him. But in Season 1 I ran without it. Indy Road curse I did a 1:09.3xx => was faster than the Track-Record Set by Barrichello during practice
=> FGT without SRF is fast enough but allot trickier

I´m with some others that say everybody should play the game the way he likes.

=> SRF isn´t God-mode you still have to use it properly (but it provides Grip where no Grip should be)

 

[Pagey279]

Use slower cars?

Stop tuning everything to the max?

I do, I regularly race cars around 400bhp.
But the way I look at it is if I drive an LMP or a formula car without srf I'm all over the place, I'm slower, I'm constantly fighting the car, having to counter steer most corners (which is a lot of hard work on a wheel) = less enjoyment.
With srf on I'm faster, the cars are a lot easier and cleaner to drive, I set faster times. I'm not fighting the car, not as much counter steering = me enjoying the game.

So the choice is obvious for me

 

[Short Bus]

I'd say that 'noobish' is doing anything that is more appropriate to a beginner than to someone with more experience. That has to include using the racing line and grip aids like SRF. If you don't have time to memorise the tracks, I'd say that was a defining feature of someone who has less experience of the game than is required to play without them. QED.

BTW, for anyone thinking this doesn't have any effect, did you have a serious go on the recent GTR seasonal, where it was forced on?

Then I would say that this attitude is noobish because experienced people understand that the preferences and situations of other people change frequently and are different than that of your own. Throwing out such judgmental opinions of other people shows that one lacks the developed perspective of a more mature, and experienced person.

 

[elric718]

I am so lazy that I still usually use the line, ever after a year and getting 1100+ cars.

There are some tracks that I should probably turn it off, but then I need to use a car a bit better than the AI so I can still finish in the top 3.

 

[SlyckTires]

Then I would say that this attitude is noobish because experienced people understand that the preferences and situations of other people change frequently and are different than that of your own. Throwing out such judgmental opinions of other people shows that one lacks the developed perspective of a more mature, and experienced person.

S'funny how some people can justify their own opinions with the 'maturity' card, while denigrating those of others. The op asked what people thought. This is what I think. Ergo, it's a legitimate response, as is yours. Unfortunately.

 

[Short Bus]

S'funny how some people can justify their own opinions with the 'maturity' card, while denigrating those of others. The op asked what people thought. This is what I think. Ergo, it's a legitimate response, as is yours. Unfortunately.

Sure, and it's a message board, where people converse and respond to other people's opinions when they disagree. I disagreed, so I responded.

 

[will-i-am]

Pretend gt5 is a bicycle, are using training wheels aid to the ride, yes. The same for SRF and the driving line.

 

[Spagetti69]

Who still uses the driving line then?
There's not that many tracks to learn.

 

[b1gdav3]

I don't see either as noobish, the only people who seem to think they're better than everyone else just because they don't use a certain aid or two. Honestly, most of these people tend to be jerks (I guess I have to be polite).

People can choose how they play their game, ok maybe not everyone can get the top lap times, but is that the only thing the game is aimed at? No. It's aimed at driving just as much as racing, if you want the game for a cruise around some nice tracks, take in the scenery and drive the cars you want, who should judge you just because you use SRF or driving lines?

 

[mrkevans]

Srf is for people who cant drive, simple as that! Why else would they use it unless they a newbie or useless at the game. Lobbys where Srf is allowed tend to be full of rammers and cheats too.

 

[Pagey279]

Srf is for people who cant drive, simple as that! Why else would they use it unless they a newbie or useless at the game. Lobbys where Srf is allowed tend to be full of rammers and cheats too.

As i have said i find the game more enjoyable with SRF on, and before you say i cant drive try and beat my lap record around Nurburgring 24hr in an FGT, i set a 6.07.9. You will soon find that i can indeed drive.

 

[smellyeti]

Not in my opinion. Some people are better at shooters than others and some people are born to race. I have no problem with anyone using driving assists. That's what they are they for. For someone to put down another racer because they happen to use srf or whatever, then that's just sad...this kind of elitism is why I stopped posting on the Gran Turismo forum at the official Sony site. Quite a few people there think that their **** don't stink.

 

[sprplay]

As long as it results in a good race with thrilling fights and chases and a close finish I couldn't care less who's using which aid.

 

[Pagey279]

I don't see either as noobish, the only people who seem to think they're better than everyone else just because they don't use a certain aid or two. Honestly, most of these people tend to be jerks (I guess I have to be polite).

People can choose how they play their game, ok maybe not everyone can get the top lap times, but is that the only thing the game is aimed at? No. It's aimed at driving just as much as racing, if you want the game for a cruise around some nice tracks, take in the scenery and drive the cars you want, who should judge you just because you use SRF or driving lines?

👍

 

[andyelliot]

Err are we losing sight about the fact that this is a game that individuals buy out of their hard earned money? We can run with whatever aids we want surely? The elitism at times on here is shocking.

Do what you want and don't worry about what the no lifes who only play this and think it is real. Sad. Sad. Sad.

 

[Woodski_427]

For me SRF kills the feel of the cars. Even with DS3 they seem lifeless and arcade like. No fun at all.

I would say learn to drive without and really experience the game. You will become a better, faster driver.

The line is OK, but if you blindly follow, again you are not getting the best from the game. It's not always the true path!

 

[mrkevans]

As i have said i find the game more enjoyable with SRF on, and before you say i cant drive try and beat my lap record around Nurburgring 24hr in an FGT, i set a 6.07.9. You will soon find that i can indeed drive.

If you were any good at the game you wouldn't use it, the reason you enjoy the game more with it on is because it makes the cars easyer to drive meaning you can't drive them very well without it. Why don't you take that fgt in a non srf room and see how far you get, not very well I suspect.

 

[berty1979]

mrkevans
If you were any good at the game you wouldn't use it, the reason you enjoy the game more with it on is because it makes the cars easyer to drive meaning you can't drive them very well without it. Why don't you take that fgt in a non srf room and see how far you get, not very well I suspect.

at you matey, I suspect Pagey would lap you in short order, he is in another series with no SRF and sets faster laps than nearly all the other guys. The mutts nuts? Yeah I am sure you think so.

To the OP, race how you like but dont be put off practising without aids as most cars are pretty easy to drive with SRF off with a bit of practice (good luck with ABS off though) 👍

 

[Johnnypenso]

If you were any good at the game you wouldn't use it, the reason you enjoy the game more with it on is because it makes the cars easyer to drive meaning you can't drive them very well without it. Why don't you take that fgt in a non srf room and see how far you get, not very well I suspect.

I drive the FGT without SRF all the time, just takes a good tune and some throttle control.

I don't have anything against SRF or people using it, but in my experience, it often attracts a certain kind of driver, those that take advantage of SRF by throwing their cars into a corner without regard for other drivers and crash and bash their way through the race.

 

[smyth]

I don't think I'd label any aid noobish, but SRF is a bit (read: WAY) too strong, without changing anything else, depending on the track, it'll knock around 2 seconds off your lap times easily. I used the driving line for ages, recently I've mainly stopped using it, still use it on tracks i don't know very well though if it's a tight race, and i use it online so I know where to expect others to be, especially if I'm not overly familiar with the track. I agree with an early poster, I also found myself getting a sort of tunnel vision and treating the driving line like a rail that was not to be deviated from, which is rarely the fastest way around a track. For me it's just tough to remember braking points for so many turns on so many tracks with so many different vehicles, I'm beginning to get the hang of it though.
I just don't think SRF is noobish though because in most online rooms I've been in it wasn't allowed anyway. I could see using it for a tough seasonal or something like that though, just to make grinding easier, which is more or less mindless anyway.I suppose it could be considered noobish for either though if the person cannot make a decent and clean lap without these two aids. But I'd never consider them/call them a noob since it doesn't bother me what aids others use and i'm still at least part noob myself

 

[Pagey279]

If you were any good at the game you wouldn't use it, the reason you enjoy the game more with it on is because it makes the cars easyer to drive meaning you can't drive them very well without it. Why don't you take that fgt in a non srf room and see how far you get, not very well I suspect.

You have no idea how well i can race without SRF, so dont pretend that you do.
I race in an online championship with no aids apart from ABS and active steering, and i am winning.
I will take the FGT round there without SRF and i will post my times.
In the meantime you can take the FGT with SRF on around Nurburgring 24hr and beat that time, if you beat it then you can look down on me all you want.
I play the game how i want to, simple as that. Your elitist views do nothing other than make you look a fool.

 

[tezster]

SRF yes, since you're given additional artificial grip which otherwise wouldn't exist. As long as people using it acknowledge that fact, I'm fine with it.

All other driving aids are offered to make a car easier to handle at the expense of raw pace i.e. TCS/ABS, racing-line don't automatically make a driver faster - it simply makes a car easier to control.

 

[berty1979]

You have no idea how well i can race without SRF, so dont pretend that you do.
I race in an online championship with no aids apart from ABS and active steering, and i am winning.
I will take the FGT round there without SRF and i will post my times.
In the meantime you can take the FGT with SRF on around Nurburgring 24hr and beat that time, if you beat it then you can look down on me all you want.
I play the game how i want to, simple as that. Your elitist views do nothing other than make you look a fool.

Amen, I feel a challenge might be on the horizon, my lounge is available 👍