Is having SRF and/or racing line on 'noobish'?

[Gedi69]

I don't think it's noobish but if you want a realistic drive like I do, I have no aids on except ABS on 1 and grip red on real.
No point playing a driving sim if it's not realistic.
Each to there own.

 

[KingSakery]

@mrkevans:
Did you compete in the Academy GTR Seasonal TT ??
Oh you didn´t because SRF was forced to ON.
Dan_Holland (or so won it with an epic Time) and he usually drives without "THE" Aid at the WRS-Events here (and he was/ is epic fast).
=> you see he´s fast without and with aids
=> Try Pagey´s Time/Setup and then you can say: Oh your a noob or mang that Time is tough.


Just try to set any Time around 24H-Nürb in the FGT.
(It´s tough now to do because RS´s only last 1 or 2 Laps around 24H)
Other thing:
Beat my Time around Indy Road (only ABS=1, Track real, Tire wear on, RS) 1:09.3xx in the FGT (I think that will be easy but it´s a challenge ).
I set it pre Tire-wear change and after => it´s compareable.
SRF is ment to be for the beginners, but you still have to fully use the grip it provides.

 

[thelvynau]

A bit of a silly question you play the game how you want isnt that why we bought gt5? We play the game with the settings that we derive the most enjoyment from

 

[Guardian]

I'm not one of these 'turn-it-all-off-you-pussy' purists; but even then I still see the Driving Line as very 'noobish'. I use Skid-Recovery Force alot, but I stopped using the Driving line a few hours after I first picked up a GT game and it was set as default.

 

[thelvynau]

It cant be noobish if someone has a preference on how they play

 

[Zupplu]

No i use them, what ya gonna do about it? Although i dont plan to drive online until i learn to drive with them off.

 

[thelvynau]

No i use them, what ya gonna do about it? Although i dont plan to drive online until i learn to drive with them off.

There we go my point exactly he plays the game the way he wants this does not make him or anyone a noob

 

[mrkevans]

@mrkevans:
Did you compete in the Academy GTR Seasonal TT ??
Oh you didn´t because SRF was forced to ON.
Dan_Holland (or so won it with an epic Time) and he usually drives without "THE" Aid at the WRS-Events here (and he was/ is epic fast).
=> you see he´s fast without and with aids
=> Try Pagey´s Time/Setup and then you can say: Oh your a noob or mang that Time is tough.

Just try to set any Time around 24H-Nürb in the FGT.
(It´s tough now to do because RS´s only last 1 or 2 Laps around 24H)
Other thing:
Beat my Time around Indy Road (only ABS=1, Track real, Tire wear on, RS) 1:09.3xx in the FGT (I think that will be easy but it´s a challenge ).
I set it pre Tire-wear change and after => it´s compareable.
SRF is ment to be for the beginners, but you still have to fully use the grip it provides.

What part of this are you struggling with, aids are for beginners and should only realy be used by such people. I'm sure there are people out there much quicker than me using Srf and god knows what else but they will never get my respect in a race or lap time while they use every aid under the sun, posting lap times means nothing to me and I suspect a lot of other people when its done using Srf, active steering ect ect! Null and void no matter how quick it was. Oh and for the record I did do that seasonal with forced Srf, dident have much choice in the matter did I

 

[Pagey279]

What part of this are you struggling with, aids are for beginners and should only realy be used by such people.

Who are you to dictate which aids people use??

If PD had made these aids available just for beginners then why are they allowed in every Aspec event, no matter what level? They left the choice down to us, as its down to personal preference, not on what level they are.
People choose to use them, just because you don't it does not give you the right to look down on people who CHOOSE to use them.
Now I ask you what part of that are you unable to understand??
It has no relevance to the users skill level, its down to CHOICE!!!
Just because we CHOOSE to use them it does not mean we can not drive. You will do well to understand this.

 

[mrkevans]

If you were any good you would not need them? Simple

 

[berty1979]

He doesnt need them, cant you read! He wins with and without, as a lot of us do.
Your just proud of your 'no assists' status but thats doesnt mean your any good at driving and certainly doesnt mean we wouldnt wipe the floor with you

 

[Photo]

Haha, I don't need to prove anything, unlike the guy using beginner aids. It's fact that they are ment for novice drivers so why then is he using them? That's the point am making, I win or finish in the top 3 of 99% of online races without novice aids that make you 3 seconds a lap faster, I hope to maybe catch you online sometime but then again I don't run in Srf rooms as they are full of idiots and rammers. Maybe one day you will both turn off your aids and race properly, its like claiming to be an Olympic swimmer but then go out using inflatable arm bands! It's fact the aids are for beginners FACT!

You really need to stop saying its beginner aids. Its a matter of driving skill, choice and driving style!

 

[Pagey279]

If you were any good you would not need them? Simple

Jesus Christ. I will repeat again and for the last time, here's hoping that it will actually sink in.
I said I choose to race with them, that does not mean I cannot race well without them.
As berty said and there are plenty of people that can justify how well I race with or without.
It's really really really really not that hard to understand

 

[Corpsey]

Is it possible to beat a time set with SRF? I tried using SRF (after not using it for a year), set a time - and I was unable to beat it without SRF on.. The SRF ghost will take off in the turns and there's no way to catch it. SRF lets you hold more speed through turns, and there's no real world equivalent, so I think it's just to help people learn how to drive on track (and not country/city roads). So in a sense it is a beginner tool.. allowing beginners to brake later and still make a turn.

 

[SuperSic]

What aids you use does not dictate your racing skills level but the answer to the thread question is yes.

 

[berty1979]

You will be faster with SRF on (at least with quick cars) than someone without but assuming all drivers in a room choose the same option then there is no advantage and it comes down to skill within the set parameters.

 

[Eezee]

As someone said earlier, in this game we have such a wide variety of cars and tracks to explore that it's just easier to learn them with the aids. I use the driving line for this reason only, I don't follow the line blindly and only look for braking spots. After the first lap I know which of the braking zone's are correct and which are not so I can do better on the 2nd lap accordingly. I usually turn the TC off on cars that don't have it in real life and to 1 on cars that do. Never used SRF.

 

[Corpsey]

You will be faster with SRF on (at least with quick cars) than someone without but assuming all drivers in a room choose the same option then there is no advantage and it comes down to skill within the set parameters.

Isn't driving fast cars with SRF on somewhat asinine in nature? :\ It would be like playing an RPG and setting everything to have +20% everything on everything... okay so now nothing has changed 👍

 

[esoxhntr]

SRF is uber lame

Driving Line, I have no issue with, allows for noobs to keep it close and hopefully prevent ramming online

So I guess DL qualifies as Noob. SRF is another 10000 notches below.

 

[Pagey279]

To mrkevans, I have just completed a lap around nurburgring nordschliefe in a pagani Zonda R with no aids apart from ABS, my time 6.06.5. The lap record for a Zonda R is 6.47. Grip on real, it was online, tyre wear was off mainly because on racing softs I got to the carousel and I was on 20% grip. The Zonda was as I bought it from the garage, no tune, just some racing softs and a high RPM turbo. Which explains the 40 seconds difference with the lap record.
If you are still unable to believe me I can provide video evidence once I work out how

 

[Gedi69]

if you were any good you would not need them? Simple

+1

 

[berty1979]

Corpsey
Isn't driving fast cars with SRF on somewhat asinine in nature? :\ It would be like playing an RPG and setting everything to have +20% everything on everything... okay so now nothing has changed

No of course not, its a very valid point. Everyone on the same level means the best will win. Whats your point apart from using a very unusual word I havent heard for a long time? Were you trying to impress your buddies?

 

[leepangfu]

I don't use it because I think it's more realistic without it. The fact is that if there was a thing as SRF in real racing series which gets you better lap times every driver would use it.

 

[Blitz24]

SRF doesn't always make you faster though.

Case in Point: I used to grind the Tokyo Bay World Compact Car Race with an Opera Performance S2000. When I had SRF on, the car nearly tipped over as the system was trying to prevent me from skidding (however it doesn't prevent you from an accident) and I ran nearly 1 to 2 seconds slower with SRF than when it was off.

 

[SAVoxleitner]

I only have ASM on because I'd rather not spin out. Other than that, I've never had the desire to use SRF.
Oh, and I used to have the driving line on when I first started playing, but then I took it off.

 

[johnnutz]

I think it's best to look at these aids like they're a form of difficulty setting. In particular srf makes the game easier.

Now if you choose to play a game on easy it does not necessarily mean you are incapable of playing it well at a higher difficulty. However, playing games on easy is usually associated with being a beginner.

I don't really care if other people use srf when playing the game. Personally I will never use it because I feel it strips cars of their unique characteristics. Also I find driving without aids to be more rewarding.

 

[will-i-am]

To mrkevans, I have just completed a lap around nurburgring nordschliefe in a pagani Zonda R with no aids apart from ABS, my time 6.06.5. The lap record for a Zonda R is 6.47. Grip on real, it was online, tyre wear was off mainly because on racing softs I got to the carousel and I was on 20% grip. The Zonda was as I bought it from the garage, no tune, just some racing softs and a high RPM turbo. Which explains the 40 seconds difference with the lap record.
If you are still unable to believe me I can provide video evidence once I work out how

Nice job! Was this free run, so lap 2. Or did you start a race? Standing start or rolling? No oil change right?

 

[berty1979]

Pagey279
To mrkevans, I have just completed a lap around nurburgring nordschliefe in a pagani Zonda R with no aids apart from ABS, my time 6.06.5. The lap record for a Zonda R is 6.47. Grip on real, it was online, tyre wear was off mainly because on racing softs I got to the carousel and I was on 20% grip. The Zonda was as I bought it from the garage, no tune, just some racing softs and a high RPM turbo. Which explains the 40 seconds difference with the lap record.
If you are still unable to believe me I can provide video evidence once I work out how ]

If that was online you would be definatley under 6 mins offline bro.

 

[Joe_Ald]

I really don't think so. I personally don't use aids in racing games, but I don't mind someone using them. Everyone has different skill levels or different amounts of time that can be devoted to playing.

 

[mrkevans]

To mrkevans, I have just completed a lap around nurburgring nordschliefe in a pagani Zonda R with no aids apart from ABS, my time 6.06.5. The lap record for a Zonda R is 6.47. Grip on real, it was online, tyre wear was off mainly because on racing softs I got to the carousel and I was on 20% grip. The Zonda was as I bought it from the garage, no tune, just some racing softs and a high RPM turbo. Which explains the 40 seconds difference with the lap record.
If you are still unable to believe me I can provide video evidence once I work out how

That's a great time, no question about it, just shows you don't need to use those aids. You must surly get a better sence of satisfaction hitting a good time without the pussy aids on? You will certainly get a lot more respect posting times without them on, from me at least. Well done!