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It's only testing but he does look a little quicker than Miyata. I'd be very surprised if he didn't get his super license after this season.
 
With all his experience on pro-level and undeniable talent everything else would be very surprising and also clearly leading to absolutely no reason considering him for F1 at all.
 
It's only testing but he does look a little quicker than Miyata. I'd be very surprised if he didn't get his super license after this season.
I think the main obstacle is the race tyre management. If he quickly picks that up on the Pirellis in F2 he should be good.
Some luck needed as well as those F2 kids are a bit feisty/aggressive/reckless, so needs to qualify well and stay out of the pack.
 
Does F2 also get the new skinnier tyres and 2026 F1 compounds?
 


Oops. Not the best first impression.
 
Yeah that was bad, lol. He did qualify right behind his team mate though, only a tenth behind despite having little track time.
 
Big shunt between PREMA teammates in the F3 Sprint race has caused a Red Flag due to barrier damage. A very silly an unnecessary bit of contact between the two drivers
Racing up until that point has been a bit mad across the whole 30 cars and surprising there hadn't been contact sooner to be honest. No idea if this race will be restarted with the F1 session scheduled for half an hour after this race is timed to finish. Tecpro needs resculpting.
 
Really bad show by Herta in the F2 Sprint race. He just fell back throughout the entire race, while his teammate moved forward

Maybe the told him just to keep it on track and get experience. Who knows
 
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Really bad show by Herta in the F2 Sprint race. He just fell back throughout the entire race, while his teammate moved forward

Maybe the told him just to keep it on track and get experience. Who knows
There's not a lot we can learn from his first race, new cars to him, new tyres, track he's never raced at before, there's no other result people could possibly have expected.
 
That chop by Dunne was absolutely brutal, the radio afterwards was pretty childish too.
 
Safety car for a car parked 10' from a marshal post opening and then the safety car doesnt know who the leader is. :banghead:
 

The single seater path to F1 seems dead. If he is staying in circuit racing it looks like GT/endurance may be the way now. I’d love to see him in Supercars or touring but I don’t think the money is there.
 

The single seater path to F1 seems dead. If he is staying in circuit racing it looks like GT/endurance may be the way now. I’d love to see him in Supercars or touring but I don’t think the money is there.
Such a shame, really feel for him, I imagine this is his vertigo that's curtailed this for him.
 
If you have the ability to find full races, go and watch back that F3 Sprint race at Silverstone today, it was absolutely epic.
 


Freddie Slater and Ugo Ugochukwu in a class of their own in F3 this season. Two insane moves by Ugochukwu this race. Take the 8 minutes if you have them.

Luca Badoer's so'n rounding out the podium is a nice little bonus if you care about F1 trivia.

On another note, is anyone in F2 considered an F1 level talent? I don't follow it closely enough to have an opinion. All I know is that the current championship top 3 Tsolov, Mini and Camara all went top 2 in F3 in 2024 or 2025 respectively. So they seem to be beating their peers consistently which imo is a very good sign (Slater has demolished almost every competition he has taken part in for example) but like I said I know nothing else. Anybody?
 
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Cadillac should start backing Ugochukwu before Red Bull gets him. Herta does not seem like a good long term prospect.
 
Cadillac should start backing Ugochukwu before Red Bull gets him. Herta does not seem like a good long term prospect.
Ugochukwu bombed in F3 pretty hard last year, he finished 16th in points, where Herta is in F2 right now. Changed to a better team this year, now might win the championship and everybody is on board again. The quality of the team seems to make a big difference even in these 'spec' junior series.

Herta is having a bad season, but his much more experienced teammate Miyata has only 8 more points then him. Hitech is just terrible this year, and is getting even worse as the season progresses. Herta and Miyata have only managed to finish in the top 10 in a race just 5 times each.

Herta was 1 second off his teammate in the last F1 FP1. Not good at all, that should be like half a second at most. But I don't know what strategy they had Herta on. But I think this is a better barometer then what's happening in F2. And if he's being given the same tires/fuel etc as the Cadillac drivers and he's finishing 1 second slower, that's the best indication he's not good enough for F1. But they might have him on a very conservative program just to rack up miles and get super license points. I believe I read somewhere that's what happened in Hungary

I hope Herta stays in F2 for another year and moves to a different, better team. I mean, Logan Logan Sargeant did better in F2 then Herta, and there's no way you can tell me he's a better driver then Herta. I'll admit there is the possibility Herta drove Indycars for pretty much his entire adult life and is struggling to adapt to something else. I just don't think he's being given a good chance to show what he can do at Hitech
 
Ugochukwu bombed in F3 pretty hard last year, he finished 16th in points, where Herta is in F2 right now. Changed to a better team this year, now might win the championship and everybody is on board again. The quality of the team seems to make a big difference even in these 'spec' junior series.

Herta is having a bad season, but his much more experienced teammate Miyata has only 8 more points then him. Hitech is just terrible this year, and is getting even worse as the season progresses. Herta and Miyata have only managed to finish in the top 10 in a race just 5 times each.

Herta was 1 second off his teammate in the last F1 FP1. Not good at all, that should be like half a second at most. But I don't know what strategy they had Herta on. But I think this is a better barometer then what's happening in F2. And if he's being given the same tires/fuel etc as the Cadillac drivers and he's finishing 1 second slower, that's the best indication he's not good enough for F1. But they might have him on a very conservative program just to rack up miles and get super license points. I believe I read somewhere that's what happened in Hungary

I hope Herta stays in F2 for another year and moves to a different, better team. I mean, Logan Logan Sargeant did better in F2 then Herta, and there's no way you can tell me he's a better driver then Herta. I'll admit there is the possibility Herta drove Indycars for pretty much his entire adult life and is struggling to adapt to something else. I just don't think he's being given a good chance to show what he can do at Hitech
Yeah I'd like to see Herta get another shot at a better team as well, he's clearly got ability. Let's also not forget that he has never driven most of these circuits, outside of a handful such as Silverstone, Spa and Catalunya, and the newer F2 cars are notoriously difficult to just jump in and be fast straight away.

You also only need to look at Prema in F2 2024 to see how much difference a team can make to the success of a driver, even in a spec series. Antonelli went on to finish 6th in the championship and Bearman 12th, granted Bearman missed a few rounds due to F1 subbing but Prema did not manage to get on top of the new F2 machinery and the drivers struggled for most of the season. Now Kimi is leading the F1 championship and Bearman is one of the hottest future prospects.
 
Freddie Slater moving up to F2 next year as expected. Going to be racing with Invicta, a very good place to be. The path to an Audi seat in F1 is very clear, I think he makes it to the bigs before Herta.

2 of Invicta's recent drivers, Fornaroli and Camara, seem to be battling it out for a seat in F1 with Haas (replacing Ocon :nervous:).
 
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