Kaz interview on Eurogamer - Standards are here to stay! Poll added

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by Johnnypenso, Jun 27, 2014.

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Kaz says the standards are going to be in GT7. Is this a deal breaker for you?

  1. If standards are in GT7, I'm out.

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  2. I will buy GT7 regardless.

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  3. On the fence, I'll wait for the reviews and then decide.

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  1. SimTourist

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    Yes, Forza 4's models aren't as good as GT's premiums but they were a great basis for T10 to start with for nextgen, and I imagine for Forza 6 we'll get the majority of FM4's car list back. But really I'm disappointed with the news of standards for GT7, not even taking Forza into account, Driveclub is gonna make GT7 look very outdated. If they can't be bothered to chuck the old cars away, I don't expect them to chuck terrible stuff like Trial Mountain and Laguna Seca away.
     
  2. mr_serious

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    Except after GT5 he said they would improve the sounds for GT6, Improve the AI for GT6, etc...

    PD have been promising a lot of things for many many years and they hardly ever keep them. It reminds me of the film "Mars Attacks" when the aliens keep saying "We come in peace" and then blow everyone away, over & over again lol
     
  3. GranTurismo guy

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    Driveclub only has 50 cars to make high quality. Much smaller ask.

    @mr_serious he never said engine sounds would be in gt6
     
  4. TokoTurismo

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    Unless those accursed standard cars are gone, you're friend here remains hostage. :mischievous:

    *Toko mumbles*

    :lol:
     
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    Pardon? What is he addressing??
     
  6. ironman44321

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    Judging by the poll seems that keeping them is the right choice, despite the rather vocal minority.
     
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  7. SimTourist

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    Yeah, I know it's all a game of trade-offs, but I'm just really sad now. Sorry about my comments.
     
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  8. GranTurismo guy

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    Oh you think this is funny!?? You just kidnapped my best gtplanet buddy!!
    Don't worry Toko I will find you!!
     
  9. AleksandarSRB

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    Well one is sure I WILL HAVE TOYOTA GT-ONE IN GT7! So now I can hope for premium version. :drool:
     
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  10. TokoTurismo

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    Ohh yeaaaaah. :lol:
     
  11. lbpomg95

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    Well it's not like forgoing standards would result in an increase in premiums. For the sake of consistency I can see why getting rid of them is popular. End of the day, why the hell not have them really, even if, when sat next to a premium, they look like a dog crapping in a plant pot next to a fully grown rose-bush.
     
  12. GranTurismo guy

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    It's okay :cheers:
    Tbh I didn't want standards in either, but I just think people are being silly billies (:sly:) when they say they won't buy gt7 just because they are included .
    :rolleyes:
     
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  13. SimTourist

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    But sure it will be an interesting comparison if GT7 and FM6 both release in 2015. Forza most certainly will.
     
  14. HBR-Roadhog

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    I don't use cockpit view, has nothing to do with standards either. I do not like the view. Some cars are not to bad but most have visibility issues and with the default position it feels like you are in the back seat in many of them and if you move forward you loose some or all visibility of the mirrors.

    I would much rather have those standard cars as premium of course but I would much rather have them as standards than not have them at all.

    I would say it is a good decision.
     
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  15. mralexf1

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    And why not? You are just talking about getting those cars out of the game because "they aren't as good as the others"? If you don't like them, don't use them. There are people that worry more about other things rather than graphics...
     
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  16. jagenigma

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    As I have read, the "standards" are staying in the GT series, not as new cars, but as an archive of cars in GTs of the past. Kaz has said that PD is concentrated on increasing the number of detailed cars though.
     
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    Well Amar, I usually see you as the voice of reason in this Forum, but here I have to completely disagree with you.
    The standard cars were barely acceptable by the time of GT5 but porting them to GT7 is absolutely intolerable. One could even say, that now by the time of GT6, were they got rid of the standard/premium terminology, we almost hit the point of false advertising. What must one think if he saw all promotion pictures of premium cars, only to find that his beloved DeLorean looks like a painted prick?

    If they want to keep the archive, fine. Then they have to invest the time and the money to put it up to date. They can be lucky that they got so much mileage out of those models anyway. If they don't want to do it by themselves, they can choose some of the models for Premium treatment and give the rest to a third party company for updating.
     
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    My opinion is PD should find out what the top standard cars are and spend some extra time before releasing GT7 to upgrade those cars to standard, or a portion of those cars. Maybe that's stupid, but they already look bad on the PS3. Having them in the game isn't going to stop me from buying it, playing it or enjoying it though...
     
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    Is poor quality modelling acceptable on the PS: No
    Is it possible to replace all the poor models with premium ones, in a realistic amount of time: No
    Will there be less variety with half the car count: Yes

    I don't like it that the models are only standards, but it's that or yet more grids of the same old cars lined up.

    I would literally pay $500 for the game if everything was made into a premium (and we had an E30 M3 :D)
     
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  23. Samus

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    Yes, if you focus on the numbers alone it's insane. I could create a game with 5000 cars, that would be even more insane but until I tell you what they are it's just a number. It could be a great collection, it could be crap. Same deal with this fixation on "over 1000 cars" in GT. It matters more what they are, not how many there are.

    Likewise if this was the other way around people in support of standards would still buy the game. Which side is the larger number, those in favour who won't buy it or those not in favour who won't buy it? We'll have to see.
     
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  24. vasiliflame

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    Iam happy standards are still in , because I still love to drive the cars always used bumper cam so do not bother me.

    I couldn't Vote because there wasn't a answer without negativity attached
     
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  25. GranTurismo guy

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    Well let's not go too far :scared:
     
  26. mr_serious

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    No the abysmal AI and terrible single player mode will probably do that anyway :(
     
  27. ironman44321

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    Yes that's true, but we already know what most of them will be...I was simply saying that having 1400 cars in a video game is hard to even fathom.
     
  28. NLxAROSA

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    Can't say this comes as a surprise, since Kaz said a couple of times he wants GT to be like an automotive encyclopedia. However, I also feel that proponents and opponents portray the choice of having standards or not to be a little too binary/black & white. You could also have a way in between where the standards are kept in game, but some of the really bad models or dupes are pruned, or polished up a bit so the difference isn't that obvious. Have the best of both ways. IMO, pruning/upgrading is necessary as technology advances from one platform to the next, but it's certainly no reason to throw them all out.

    Either way, Kaz/PD made their choice here, so people can decide for themselves wether they stick with GT or not. Personally, my motivation for buying the next GT are not based on Standards (there are far more important issues to address IMO).
     
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    People are so disgusted by the fact that they will see standards from afar, or for a fleeting moment as they overtake them travelling about 60mph faster, that they're demanding that hundreds of cars that are most probably only represented by the GT series be binned. You'd have thought that GT, a real car enthusiast's game, would have a fanbase that first and foremost would want as wide a variety of cars to be represented as possible, but apparently not.

    This.
     
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  30. GranTurismo guy

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    I think the reason I love gt6 is because I don't have the same problems as others,
    Ai and single player don't affect me.
    I literally get months of joy out of just driving the cars I love in this game, it's truly magic.
    And I like enjoying my cars with friends online as well.
    This moethod I play gt and other driving games with is the reason gt7 is an immediate buy.
     
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