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How STUPID! Who's going to be home at noon. On a Monday...

I'm convinced there are stupid people at NASCAR. You have lights! Use them!

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This forum needs a face palm emoticon.

What do you propose they do? There is no way Fox is going to move around new episodes of House and Alcatraz and moving it to another channel isn't going to do much either. Not to mention I'm guesing there are local ordinances preventing them from doing night races on week nights hence why the Duels are during the day.

NASCAR does not have free reighn, they have to work with the cards they are dealt.

Not just that, the current time there at Daytona is almost 18:00 and it is still very wet. Drying up the track might take another 1 or possibly the longest being 2 hours. By then, the race will start really late possibly at 20:00 and might lasted until very late night which is not ideal for the drivers and as mentioned, TV Coverage.

Frustration is frustration, but sometimes logic thinking must come.

I hope it rains until night on Monday.

You're not making things any better? You should be lucky it's postponed to tomorrow instead of cancelling the whole Daytona 500 altogether!
 
I had one today that was active for 7 hours...

Lucky you, I must've found about 20 that got taken down after about 20 minutes :grumpy:

Lights aren't an issue.

They are with spray, the drivers wouldn't see each other, not cool when racing in a pack.

No existing wet tyre could be used on a oval because of how soft the compound would need to be and how the tread block would overheat because of the load at high speeds on banked corners.
 
This forum needs a face palm emoticon.

What do you propose they do? There is no way Fox is going to move around new episodes of House and Alcatraz and moving it to another channel isn't going to do much either. Not to mention I'm guesing there are local ordinances preventing them from doing night races on week nights hence why the Duels are during the day.

NASCAR does not have free reighn, they have to work with the cards they are dealt.



The do race under the lights.... maybe it would have been too late?

With the cars as lose as they are, the clean, slick (no rubber), track will make for a crazy race.
 
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The do race under the lights.... maybe it would have been too late?


Yes, it would've been too late. If it's a carry-over from the daylight, I think it would be fine as the race finish will still be on time. The big problem for today is as I mentioned in my previous post, the race might start at 20:00 local time due to drying up the track etc. Be it at night, it won't help any in the drying process and might take from 1 to 2 hours. Not to mention, the race might last wherever from 2 to possibly 3 hours and might end somewhere in the middle of the night.

It's just not ideal at all for the drivers and TV coverage.

About the lighting during the rain, yes it actually is an issue. The rain will refract the light to various direction and resulting in lesser light that will actually reach the track. With cars going at more than 200kmh at the back straight, it won't help much at all...
 
Why is everyone acting like a delayed race has never happened before? NASCAR made their decision based on the forecast for tonight, which was just the same rain pattern that has happened all day. Anytime they would get the track close to completely dry, it was just going to rain again.

If the race ends up being tomorrow night, I don't see why Fox can't move programming around. They've done it before.
 
Why is everyone acting like a delayed race has never happened before? NASCAR made their decision based on the forecast for tonight, which was just the same rain pattern that has happened all day. Anytime they would get the track close to completely dry, it was just going to rain again.

If the race ends up being tomorrow night, I don't see why Fox can't move programming around. They've done it before.

Tomorrow night WOULD BE PERFECT!
 
I don't see why Fox can't move programming around. They've done it before.

Because both House and Alcatraz have new episodes, don't think Fox would be willing to move those around. Although those don't start until 8PM ET so they do have a rather large window.

Compared to the morning where they have some talk shows and a judge show or two.
 
If they aren't willing to move shows on FOX, the race airs on SPEED. FOX would be dumb to move a major live sporting event off of network TV to cable TV. That would mean less ratings, if anyone actually cares about such things.

Episodic TV shows can be moved with no problem.
 
Here's a good trivia question:

The Daytona 500 has been the opening race for the NASCAR season since 1982. What race was the season opener prior to that from 1970 to 1981?
 
70% chance for showers tomorrow as well. Even the storm chaser guy I have on my facebook says it doesn't look good either.

Pretty sure we're racing on Tuesday.
 
Here's a good trivia question:

The Daytona 500 has been the opening race for the NASCAR season since 1982. What race was the season opener prior to that from 1970 to 1981?

Winston Western 500 at the old Riverside course.
 
Episodic TV shows can be moved with no problem.

Actually, once again it's harder than some tend to think. For one people are used to seeing the show's on Monday's, changing that likely wouldn't result in any good PR and would lead to low ratings. There are also sponsors that are paying for the show to air in the Monday primetime spot, it's not like live TV where there is a risk the event may be moved, they expect their commercialls to air Monday during prime time.

I still doubt the race will take place at night due to noise ordinances.
 
Was never around to see it unfortunately, would love to have seen a race there.:(

Nor was I. The track closed the year I was born but I have raced there in simulation games. Its layout reminds me of Infineon (which is probably not surprising since Infineon is based off of it).
 
I guess whilst we're on the subject, what is the ideal time window for a event like this on the weekend and how does the promoter and sponsors and network work this all out? Since I've been hearing about FIA and its troubles finding broadcasting deals for WRC, I figure I'd ask.
 
I guess whilst we're on the subject, what is the ideal time window for a event like this on the weekend and how does the promoter and sponsors and network work this all out? Since I've been hearing about FIA and its troubles finding broadcasting deals for WRC, I figure I'd ask.

1 PM Eastern is the most ideal time surprisingly. They can catch the European crowd at dinner.
 
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Not just that, the current time there at Daytona is almost 18:00 and it is still very wet. Drying up the track might take another 1 or possibly the longest being 2 hours. By then, the race will start really late possibly at 20:00 and might lasted until very late night which is not ideal for the drivers and as mentioned, TV Coverage.

Frustration is frustration, but sometimes logic thinking must come.

You're not making things any better? You should be lucky it's postponed to tomorrow instead of cancelling the whole Daytona 500 altogether!

Worst case scenario it's going to Tuesday, I think, because that's what R16 is saying.
 
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