Nico Rosberg retires from F1Formula 1

[TenEightyOne]

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What does that have to do with your claim that they said the following?

... he didn't deserve the championship...

The article quoted said that Rosberg would never be Hamilton's equal as a "racing driver", not sure how you got "didn't deserve the championship" from that.

They also asked "did Rosberg deserve it?", and answered Yes. Hmmm.

 

[PeterJB]

What does that have to do with your claim that they said the following?



The article quoted said that Rosberg would never be Hamilton's equal as a "racing driver", not sure how you got "didn't deserve the championship" from that.

They also asked "did Rosberg deserve it?", and answered Yes. Hmmm.

Andrew Benson is known for his pro-Hamilton bias. If Hamilton had won the title he wouldn't have been questioning his eligibility to do so, just praising for being amazing, and now that Rosberg's gone he suddenly deserves our respect, which definitely doesn't have anything to do with that fact that there isn't anyone else who'll be able to come anywhere near Lewis at the moment.

 

[novcze]

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oh wow those headlines, bbc.com is crazy ... anyone who is watching F1 closely know how Rosberg won the championship. Nothing to do with being worthy .

 

[TenEightyOne]

Andrew Benson is known for his pro-Hamilton bias.

Surely that's an example of your own pre-disposition allowing you to read meanings into articles and headlines that aren't actually stated therein?

If Hamilton had won the title he wouldn't have been questioning his eligibility to do so, just praising for being amazing,

Just as Rosberg is being praised in the very articles you linked. Some of the questions are fair - Rosberg took fewer wins over the season and Mercedes have openly blamed Hamilton's "loss" on engine failures. What kind of journalist wouldn't explore those questions? Read Benson's answers rather than writing your own answers to the headline questions

and now that Rosberg's gone he suddenly deserves our respect, which definitely doesn't have anything to do with that fact that there isn't anyone else who'll be able to come anywhere near Lewis at the moment.

Rosberg has done more than come near and there's no "sudden" change, Rosberg's been highly praised in all quarters for his approach to the season and his eventual win. The BBC articles you quoted are no exceptions to that...

 

[Dotini]

"Worthy of the championship" is an interesting phrase. Probably very loaded and open to a variety of meanings and interpretations.

Racing will bring out both the best and worst in people, Senna and Prost, for instance. Were both worthy champions, or neither? Fangio never wrecked anybody, or backed anybody up, as far as I know. So maybe he was more worthy? Graham Hill was never the quickest, but won two world titles by driving the best car steadily. Was he not terribly worthy?

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Was he not terribly worthy?

Not unless his full name was Graham Lewis Hamilton Hill.

 

[Dotini]

Not unless his full name was Graham Lewis Hamilton Hill.

For me, the name "Hamilton" will always be firstly one of the US founding fathers who was killed in a duel by sitting Vice-President Arron Burr. Is Lewis related?

 

[JockeP22]

I for one will miss Rosberg in Formula 1.
Not as much for his racing but mostly because he impressed me as a human being.

He's a father and family man, speaks (at least) six languages, is highly intelligent with technology
and can explain very complex and advanced systems and issues in layman's terms
without confusing the viewer or listener. I've seen many interviews where he's so good
at conveying something to me and others making us understand some occurrence much better.

I've also watched interviews he has given in english, italian, spanish, german and french.
He's fluent in all five and I hear he's learning finnish as well. That coupled with his profession of
being a top driver in the top motorsport category and being a good ambassador for the sport
impresses me. He's a man of the world and seems to live life to the fullest.
I get very inspired to see someone thinking outside the box, to go against the grain and do something unexpected. All the power to him for stopping when being at the top and having a contract with the best team out there.

He had a privileged upbringing, yes, whatever that means. His surname certainly helped to get him here, he has been criticised for it and been put down for it many times. By Hamilton also.

I see it as he made the most of what he had and he succeeded. I wish him well.

Some expanded stats I just collected;

Formula 1
World Championships - 1
Races - 206
Wins - 23
Podiums - 57
Top 5's - 84
Poles - 30
Fastest Laps - 20
Laps - 11,162
Laps Led - 1,534

 

[sems4arsenal]

He probably doesn't mean it but dear me does Lewis seem arrogant.

 

[MCFerocious]

A very very good decision to retire by a very intelligent man. Going out at the very top is ideal and so many sports stars have no idea when to retire, often outstaying their welcome and being humiliated almost. Look at Schumacher - he came back and would often smash into the back of other cars under braking and generally got his butt kicked by Rosberg who in turn is in reality a slower driver than say Hamilton or Ricciardo. Then look at Barrichello - he had to be dragged kicking and screaming almost, very humiliating indeed. If Rosberg had stayed he would almost definitely lose his title to a very motivated and fast Hamilton next year and that would make him look very average indeed. Even losing the last four races quite badly took alot of the gloss of a world title win off Rosberg. Spot on decision from Rosberg. Qudus to know when to go.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Not unless his full name was Graham Lewis Hamilton Palmer Hill.

Corrected for you.

 

[novcze]

actual announcement

 

[FT-1]

He probably doesn't mean it but dear me does Lewis seem arrogant.

The comments on that video are cancerous

 

[Johnnypenso]

He probably doesn't mean it but dear me does Lewis seem arrogant.

Seems more like he just doesn't care. Best line:

"That's the first time [Nico] has won in 18 years"

 

[mustafur]

The 2005 GP2 Title doesn't count?

 

[FT-1]

The 2005 GP2 Title doesn't count?

Lewis was racing in a different series (Formula 3) back in 2005.

EDIT: I am assuming Lewis meant first time Nico has won against himself in the same series.

 

[mustafur]

Lewis was racing in a different series (Formula 3) back in 2005.

And? he said won, not beat him.

But if that's what he meant, that's just cringe levels of arrogance.

 

[FT-1]

And? he said won, not beat him.

I edited my message to show how I interpreted his "18 years" comment.

 

[JockeP22]

March 26, 2017 - Australia (Melbourne) Race Day
Lewis Hamilton's car to pit radio;

A special hello to my dear.. our dear friend Nico in Wiesbaden. We all miss you, Nico.

Nah, not gonna happen.

Spoiler

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

He probably doesn't mean it but dear me does Lewis seem arrogant.

How? Dan to me seemed not so much arrogant but naive in his age in the concept of how does a sitting WDC just walk away from it essentially after winning it the day prior. Dan talked about a pay day, and also spoke about how he feels it would be hard to stop at just 1 WDC, because he doesn't seem to understand having a wife and kids yet.

Sure the argument can be made "Well Vettel is still going and so is Kimi" but not everyone is going to see it the same way after they win a WDC. I think it was refreshing that Lewis understood why Nico did it while others couldn't really come to terms. The only arrogant part I could somewhat see is the whole "hasn't won it in 18 years".

 

[mustafur]

How? Dan to me seemed not so much arrogant but naive in his age in the concept of how does a sitting WDC just walk away from it essentially after winning it the day prior. Dan talked about a pay day, and also spoke about how he feels it would be hard to stop at just 1 WDC, because he doesn't seem to understand having a wife and kids yet.

It was clearly tongue and cheek, i'm sure he understands why but obviously those circumstances are not the same as his.

Sure the argument can be made "Well Vettel is still going and so is Kimi" but not everyone is going to see it the same way after they win a WDC. I think it was refreshing that Lewis understood why Nico did it while others couldn't really come to terms. The only arrogant part I could somewhat see is the whole "hasn't won it in 18 years".

That's the arrogant part he is talking about, and I agree as well.

 

[sems4arsenal]

How? Dan to me seemed not so much arrogant but naive in his age in the concept of how does a sitting WDC just walk away from it essentially after winning it the day prior. Dan talked about a pay day, and also spoke about how he feels it would be hard to stop at just 1 WDC, because he doesn't seem to understand having a wife and kids yet.

Sure the argument can be made "Well Vettel is still going and so is Kimi" but not everyone is going to see it the same way after they win a WDC. I think it was refreshing that Lewis understood why Nico did it while others couldn't really come to terms. The only arrogant part I could somewhat see is the whole "hasn't won it in 18 years".

Yeah that's the part, weird answer to the question really.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

And? he said won, not beat him.

But if that's what he meant, that's just cringe levels of arrogance.

So what it's implied, not everything is so black and white. If you go back to the question even it's obvious implication comes through that he's basing this thought on their personal rivalry since they were 13.

It was clearly tongue and cheek, i'm sure he understands why but obviously those circumstances are not the same as his.

Yet when asked here and other forums it's the same. In other words it's very possible that even having a family wouldn't stop him from fighting for more. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's different on a person to person basis. Which is the point he seemed to struggle with, that thought. Though it is Dan so people will be quick to defend him cause he's far more likable than Lewis.

That's the arrogant part he is talking about, and I agree as well.

Which is why I said that is the only part I could see, you reaffirming what I was sure he was getting at and what I'm well aware you agree on doesn't do much.

Yeah that's the part, weird answer to the question really.

I agree with you, it was a strange transition and while I think I understand why he brought it up, it could have been worded much better. Instead it comes off as the traditional ego racer, when their battles are over and that should be that.

 

[TrevorPhilips]

Well I've had a call from Toto Wolf this morning! A very passionate chat it was too. To be honest it's all happening so fast! To cut a long story short I will meet with the lawyers next week to see where we stand, I don't want to jump the gun here but there is a very good chance that by next month, I will not be allowed within 500 yards of Susie Wolf.

 

[Liquid]

For someone as undoubtedly talented as he is, Lewis Hamilton seems desperately insecure with regards to racing and teammates. It's like he must have a dig when he doesn't need to and he can't just rest on his impressive achievements alone and not worry.

Never mind. I'm sure he can enjoy his blessed yachts and blessed pictures of himself in his blessed car next blessed season.

I wonder how much of a say he has in the vacant Mercedes-Benz seat.

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

For someone as undoubtedly talented as he is, Lewis Hamilton seems desperately insecure with regards to racing and teammates. It's like he must have a dig when he doesn't need to and he can't just rest on his impressive achievements alone and not worry.

Never mind. I'm sure he can enjoy his blessed yachts and blessed pictures of himself in his blessed car next blessed season.

I wonder how much of a say he has in the vacant Mercedes-Benz seat.

What the hell are you talking about ?

 

[Famine]

What the hell are you talking about ?

It all seemed rather clear to me #blessed #44#lh44 #chilled #justroscoethings #everythinghappensforareason #maybeitsbecauseimblack

 

[Jimlaad43]

The only team mate Lewis wouldn't argue with

 

[McLaren]

Good for him; the man put in a decade with F1 & finally achieved his goal. It's amazing how some people can not grasp that for Nico, having the title is all that matters to him. He could take a chance at grabbing another title, but maybe he thinks that's all it'll be; a title he already has that probably won't feel as meaningful to win as a driver's first.

The posts discrediting his reasoning for wanting to be with his family are disgusting to read. He said his wife sacrificed time with him to let him focus on achieving the title, perhaps somewhere deep down, he feels like asking her to do it again another season would be selfish? Perhaps with his daughter only a year old, he wants to spend the rest of his life being there for her "1st's"? Who are people to question a person's desire to pick their loved ones over anything else?

The man achieved his career goal in life & doesn't owe the fans anything; they've had the last decade to enjoy his career.

 

[trustjab]

Some people really read into things. The question posed to Lewis was speaking about their rivalry. The 'first time he won in 18 years' isn't something Lewis alone has come up with. Rosberg said it himself. But only get upset at Lewis about saying it, though These guys are people like any one of us. Why some get so caught up in their words is beyond me.